Was Socrates Safe?

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Remember the greek philosopher who was ousted for being too smart for his country's laymen and not emotionally sensitive enough to take into consideration everyone's emotional needs when it came to wording sentences? Yeah, that guy. Considering how many parallels that Socrates has with a few of the members on here, I have to ask...


Was Safe just a modern day socrates? A lively, ingenious, creative guy wiling to push the bounds of eccentricity of a supposedly inherently relatively eccentric tribe and didn't let emotions get in his way of exploration and pursuit of truth?
 
This forum has really deteriorated into something pathetic... Who's going to be the prom queen this year? What a bunch of gutless jackasses. It reminds me of high school kids and chatty cliques. A high school run by a bunch of frikkin' re-sellers. You can run anyone down but one of them. Preferably someone that isn't around anymore that can't defend themselves.

Dude.. the guy is banned! STFU :roll:

How's about re-naming this place to Endless-Bullshit?
 
Phrases like STFU go a long way in reminding of me high school's repressiveness. But with age comes eventual reversal, so that can be expected.

Seriously, many of the insights that Safe had was only something that many of Endless-Spherer's have only begun to reckon. He emphasized armature current control, but that wasn't really an issue with the low powered crap of the good old days, but now that the Endless Spherer's are realizing that lots of current with the more advanced powerful drive systems comes a lot of heat, and armature current control starts to make sense. Can anybody admit that Safe was right on with a few of his claims, explorations and challenges of the sleepy mind's conformisms? Sure, he may have been wrong and seriously challenged in a few departments, but he's done far more for advancing the state of the Sphere than most with his challenges and pursuit of truth. And why was he banned again? Oh, he "didn't play by the rules", lmao, the rules that were invented to suit the occasion of controlling deviants. Sounds a bit like Greece...
 
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And why was he banned again? Oh, he "didn't play by the rules", lmao, the rules that were invented to suit the occasion of controlling deviants. Sounds a bit like Greece...
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I seem to remember multiple warnings, then banning, then un-banning, then more warnings, then banning again... I have no idea what the reasons were for most of those, and I really don't care, but it seems to me like overzealous tyrannical "controlling deviant" moderators wouldn't have bothered with all that.
 
I wouldn't think you needn't be a conventional "tyrannical moderator" to control any perceived deviations. Perhaps, one that thought some perceived deviation could be controlled, unbanned to make another attempt at reformation, realized such control wasn't that possible, and went... *ooops*... let's make the ban permanent this time.
 
swbluto,

"Safe, a modern day Socrates", is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Safe is a moron, however, he did contribute more than EMF, whose only contribution I've seen is negative commentary and occasional interesting data outside of the forum purpose, but nothing useful or constructive. When someone's most active forum is Other Toxic Discussions, you really have to take a hard look at showing them the door too, just like Safe.

John
 
Though Safe obviously annoyed a lot of people, he took a lot of personal insults and attacks here without a whimper or need for retribution as far as I could tell. Though some of his ideas were nonsense, they were not all nonsense, and I personally found the "flaming of Safe" to be more annoying than Safe's rambling. It is one thing to attempt to correct misinformation or state another opinion, another to do it visciously. Socrates? No. Eccentric? Yes. But I've been called eccentric myself many times and wouldn't have it any other way. Sanity is highly over rated.
 
Maye not Socrates per se, but...

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Perhaps a Socratic Michelangelo? It seems obvious he at least had a few great ideas.
 
Every time I see the rear stay on the bike above I think about Safe not being long for this world. That thing is going to fail, and probably at speed, but he'll be going fast in an efficient manner.
 
in ancient greek terms eric-the 'safe' is definitely not socratic.
actually he's the polar opposite, known as a sophist.
except he has elevated the practice of sophism to new heights on this sphere.
if anything it has earned him the title of über-sophist, requiring it's own descriptor derived entirely from him, known as a saphist in his attempts to mislead & misdirect with his disinformation.
primarily, tho not exclusive to his curious political thoughts, but touching on technical points as well.

then on top of this personal game-play of his by being repeatedly deliberately lied to, there's also the generous seasoning of his massive ego & his pathological absolute desperate need for self aggrandizement that would invariably permeate his posts.
he would read something on wiki or on-line uni course-work pertaining to motors or batteries or whatever & come on here & then try to pass it off as his own with 'hey guys, look what my inkwedibull bwain just came up with!!!'.
simply cuz he happened to be the first to mention something on this sphere, just like Draper he would claim ownership of the idea or concept as it's originator, which many people who read his claims seem to buy into.

it's unfortunate that so many have been conned into believing that 'safe' has had any great ideas.
so far i haven't seen anything from him that hasn't been around for at least a century.
there's nothing wrong in exploring & discussing ACL or motor rewinding or whatever, but can do without the 'me-me-me, my idea, i thought of it, bathe Lord Garth with ur adulation' kinda crap.
it's too bad his Lord Garth & similar threads referencing his massiv IQ have expired & been pruned, it would certainly provide the requisite insight of what's behind his posts.

In comparison, Socrates accepted no fee, instead adopting a self-effacing posture,
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of the many descriptions that can be attempted to be applied to 'safe', no one would ever dispute that he is the farthest thing from self-effacing
safe's currency or 'fee' comes in the form of a demand payment acknowledging his greatness.
was Socrates safe?
too funny.
 
Heh Heh, I have to admit it was fun while it lasted, but arriving here only last year, I don't know all of it. For awhile it was amusing to see Tyler explode on every Safe thread. I did enjoy some economic debates with him, trying to educate somebody who never spent any years eating out of a dumpster. But it got pretty old later on. I learned a lot from Safes threads, and Tylers too, so it's too bad things got to be too much, and the valuable part of it got lost. Half the fun of the sphere is trying to weigh two points of view and deciding which to believe. I saw Safes problem as being unable to learn from any body elses opinion. Ego for sure. Not like I don't have any though. :roll:
 
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