Where to get a 1000w hub motor

[zjhost]

Hi everyone,

I am searching for a 1000w hub motor preferably golden motor can be something else too but not too expensive. (below 250 euro?)
I know there are a lot on Ebay but I don't know which ones are reliable.. It has to be an external controller because I want to upgrade to an 72 v 12 fet Lyen controller with 6 of these: Turnigy 5000mAh 4S1P 14.8v 20C hardcase pack (hobbyking) in series.
Please let me know where I can improve in my setup, and where to find the hub motor.

Thanks in advance!

-Zjhost

 

[wesnewell]

Go to user control panel profile and put your country in the location field so people can help. You also need to specify if you want a kit or just the bare motor, and front or rear.

 

[kentlim26]

i will suggest is to go ebay.com to find out more. i had also looking another 1000w 48v hub motor. i feel all production hub motor have a decent quality. i bought my from conhismotor.com , i think it will last me a very long time. i run this hub motor few years back . i saw some new design motor for sales in ebay. at a 61v, can get a easy flat top speed of 57kmh on flat. what is your goal top speed?

 

[dogman dan]

Emissions free. http://www.emissions-free.com/catalog/i14.html Very trusted vendor.

The muxus dd motor can easily tolerate 1500w, and with some thicker wires and mabe some vent holes 3000w for about 20 min at a time.

Run one at 48v 20 amps controller, and you'll see 1200w peak watts, and never melt it. Assuming you get that controller set to 40 amps, x 24s lipo, youll be running at about 4000w. And it can be melted in 20 min.

What are you looking for? A 1000 w motor or a 4000w motor? Are you planning on 24s 5 ah or 12s 10 ah?

 

[chisixer6]

I run a yescomusa 48v 800 watt setup for about $250 usd, didn't get an 1000 watt because they were sold out. It runs great, use an older ebikekit controller, even though I have 2 Lyens 72v controllers sitting by. I will run it 2s3p using turniqy 6s 5a to get almost 50v and 15a. for quicker run I config it 3s2p for about 75v 10a, there is a speed difference.

 

[zjhost]

Go to user control panel profile and put your country in the location field so people can help. You also need to specify if you want a kit or just the bare motor, and front or rear.

I live in the Netherlands and I am looking for the complete kit.

 

[zjhost]

Emissions free. http://www.emissions-free.com/catalog/i14.html Very trusted vendor.

The muxus dd motor can easily tolerate 1500w, and with some thicker wires and mabe some vent holes 3000w for about 20 min at a time.

Run one at 48v 20 amps controller, and you'll see 1200w peak watts, and never melt it. Assuming you get that controller set to 40 amps, x 24s lipo, youll be running at about 4000w. And it can be melted in 20 min.

What are you looking for? A 1000 w motor or a 4000w motor? Are you planning on 24s 5 ah or 12s 10 ah?

Isn't that a 500w motor? I think it will be a good idea to buy the kit, and just ride with 36v of lipo 5 ah, until I get bored then upgrade to 72v.. Do you thinks that will work for me?
I don't have a lot of knowledge about lipo's but a friend of mine can help me out if needed..
O and does Emissions free ship to europe? I see they have some problems with the transfers :/ .

 

[zjhost]

I run a yescomusa 48v 800 watt setup for about $250 usd, didn't get an 1000 watt because they were sold out. It runs great, use an older ebikekit controller, even though I have 2 Lyens 72v controllers sitting by. I will run it 2s3p using turniqy 6s 5a to get almost 50v and 15a. for quicker run I config it 3s2p for about 75v 10a, there is a speed difference.

That's cool, The site where you got it from doesn't ship to europe I think. But your setup is very nice. Exactly what im looking for. How much did you spent?

By the way the Endless sphere wiki is really really useful!

 

[Caliban]

These guys appear to be your local source? http://www.devi-motion.com. I've previously dealt with them and had a good experience.

 

[zjhost]

i will suggest is to go ebay.com to find out more. i had also looking another 1000w 48v hub motor. i feel all production hub motor have a decent quality. i bought my from conhismotor.com , i think it will last me a very long time. i run this hub motor few years back . i saw some new design motor for sales in ebay. at a 61v, can get a easy flat top speed of 57kmh on flat. what is your goal top speed?

Thanks, I would like to be able to go 60 km/h but not for long periods of course

 

[zjhost]

These guys appear to be your local source? http://www.devi-motion.com. I've previously dealt with them and had a good experience.

I've seen them before, however I have been avoiding them since I saw that the magic pie 3 was 325 euro's EX TAX!!, while at bmsbattery the MP3 was 220 euro's. Kind of strange :/
But now I've seen the prokit 901 for 214 euro + 19% tax = 255 euro. Is that a good deal?

 

[Caliban]

I bought 2 1000w pro kits - they work for me. Very Similar hubs seem to be sold by a number of vendors, my previous hubs were from conhismotor and seem to be identical. The GM kits seem to be fairly indestructible and the performance on offer is certainly adequate for on street commuting. Go for it.

 

[zjhost]

Ok, so after some more research, I got this plan.

I'll get the muxus dd motor, with this battery http://www.conhismotor.com/ProductShow.asp?id=253 kind of random, Im not sure. With shipping it should cost me around 500 euro's on a 150 euro mountainbike can't beat the price. Right?
Because I got very minimun knowledge about lipo's and since there dangerous, I am going to wait and do some more searching.
So when I get bored of the 35/40 km/h (will I even reach that?) I will change the controller to the lyen 72 volt and go with the lipo's.

What do you think?!

 

[dogman dan]

Too small a battery for a medium size direct drive motor Even if the kit has the smallish 20 amp controller, that battery cannot supply 20 amps continuous. It will be battery murder. That battery is intended for use with tiny 250w gearmotor kits.

You need about 15 ah of typical lifepo4 or Limn battery for a 20 amp controller.

Unfortunately, 1000w gets a bit expensive. My favorite battery to recomend is the 48v 15 ah lifepo4 from pingbattery.com Mine have served me excellently for many thousands of miles of riding.

 

[wesnewell]

Hub motor kit. Take your pick.
http://global.ebay.com/search/?Query=48v+1000w+rear
Stick with your first choice of battery wired as 12s2p.
If you want to got to 24s, rewire to 24s1p in about 15 seconds, and get this controller.
http://www.dhgate.com/72v-1500w-brushless-speed-controller-for/r-ff80808131bbd38d0131bbda55e40253.html

 

[zjhost]

Ok so as I said it was kind of random and stupid, i realise now.
The controller from dhgate seems perfect for me and FREE shipping!
Just one more thing. Will a 72 v controller work with 12s2p?

 

[wesnewell]

Ok so as I said it was kind of random and stupid, i realise now.
The controller from dhgate seems perfect for me and FREE shipping!
Just one more thing. Will a 72 v controller work with 12s2p?

Not unless you change the LVC. However it will work with 24s. The controller you get with the 48V 1000W hub motor kit will work with 12s RC lipo. Just through in the controller link in case you wanted to run 24s1p. Now you could mod the 72V controller to work with any voltage through the use of a variable resistor, or the use of a on off on toggle switch to select 3 different voltages.

 

[zjhost]

Oke thanks guys. I think that was all I needed to know.
I am going with a 48v 1000w rear hub motor, either from ebay or devi-motion. With the controller from dhgate, and the lipo battery's from hobbyking. Either 12s2p or 24s1p. Thx for the help!

 

[dogman dan]

18s should work ok with a 72v controller. Often the lvc is set at about 60v, and 18 x 3.5v is 63v.

24 s will smoke your motor pretty fast, and may smoke the controller too since your 24s battery will come off the charger at 100v. Some say 100v is ok for a 72v controller, others say you really should keep it down to about 90v max.

If you get a motor kit, it will very likely come with a controller that will take 12s nicely. I strongly suggest you do not start out with 24s. But hey, go ahead if you wish, and join the club of people that had the motor wheel fly off the bike on the first ride. I'm in the club, and it happend to me with 36v.

 

[zjhost]

Haha, I prefer not to join the club. So I will start out with the 12s and if it is needed to go faster I'll go to 18s

 

[wesnewell]

With 12s you can run wot all the time. With 24s, you won't want to run wot hardly ever, but you can cruise around at 35mph for as long as you want with a 1000W motor.

 

[zjhost]

I understand, but I won't be riding with wot 24s. Dogman says bad things will happen. ^^

 

[dogman dan]

When I joined the motor left the forks club, I was taking out my first ebike at 36v. 12s is 44v. :wink: I'd never heard of a torque arm.