Which is lighter?

[Eastwood]

Which rim is lighter? The excel is stronger but I’m not sure if it’s heavier than the pro-wheel?

Takasago EXCEL Rim VS Pro-Wheel?

 

[Eastwood]

I’m guessing the pro wheel is lighter since the excel looks thicker. What do you guys think?

 

[HK12K]

Not sure which is lighter but I have a Pro Wheel on the front of my Raptor and have no complaints, for whatever that may be worth to you.

 

[MadRhino]

Excel does make many different rims, each its own weight and strength.

Pro-wheel had made many different rims over the years, each its own weight and strength.

Be more specific: model, year and size.

If they are both 2021, same size, and the Excel is a Signature series: it is lighter.

But this is pointless. I mean, your bike is heavy and built with mostly heavy components. Why do you care about saving 125g in a pair of rims now?

 

[Eastwood]

Be more specific: model, year and size.

Excel Takasago Signature Series 2021

If they are both 2021, same size, and the Excel is a Signature series: it is lighter.

Nice! Ordered the Excel Signature series last night. Went with 19” front and rear, contemplated 19-17 or 19-18.

But this is pointless. I mean, your bike is heavy and built with mostly heavy components. Why do you care about saving 125g in a pair of rims now?

Well was just curious of which rim was lighter. Ultimately I choose the stronger rim but couldn’t find accurate weight specs for neither.

 

[markz]

Why save a few grams here or there
Its not even relevant when it comes to ebikes

Your better off hitting the toilet and taking a dump before you ride

For the rich lycra roadie crowd or sponsored racer then who cares save a gram or two for $1000 difference.

The more important factor to consider is which is the strongest rim, is it double walled or single
pinned or welded might be a difference in strength
but you need to build the rim correctly, cross-pattern, quality parts, using the correct gauge spokes because that makes it strong to

 

[MadRhino]

Why save a few grams here or there
Its not even relevant when it comes to ebikes
...

Saving weight is a very important factor of performance for any vehicle, but then it does need to be a concern for the frame and all components. Paying extra to save 75 grams on a wheel after you had built on a heavy frame using Chinese components is not logical.

Wheel weight saved is worth double the weight saved on the bike but still, once you had started building heavy there in no reason to save weight anymore. It is a process that would require starting again from scratch.

 

[Eastwood]

Why save a few grams here or there
Its not even relevant when it comes to ebikes

Your better off hitting the toilet and taking a dump before you ride

For the rich lycra roadie crowd or sponsored racer then who cares save a gram or two for $1000 difference.

The more important factor to consider is which is the strongest rim, is it double walled or single
pinned or welded might be a difference in strength
but you need to build the rim correctly, cross-pattern, quality parts, using the correct gauge spokes because that makes it strong to

Not trying to save a few grams, Purchased the stronger rim. Because I asked the question which one is lighter doesn’t mean my decision is based upon that answer. Your assuming

 

[Eastwood]

Your better off hitting the toilet and taking a dump before you ride

So the things I considered when purchasing these rims,
1st Durability and strength
2nd weight
3rd looks

Although weight and looks are important the durability outweighs all factors. The pro wheel still seems like a good choice but having a motocross background I went with the tried and true signature series.

I’ll be taking my Enduro/clone on actual dirtbike tracks so I need really strong rims. I won’t be hitting any big jumps with the hub motor but will absolutely push these wheels to the max 8)

I want to fly by all these petrol heads! :lol: :lol:

 

[markz]

Well your title states lighter and when I responded I read your post quoted below, and Mad Rhino's quote falls inline with the point I was trying to convey.

Its good to be curious, but not into the game of saving a few grams for an expensive price.
I agree durability is crucial and well worth paying extra for.

Plus dont want to add pounds to a wheel, but 100g on a rim I dont see it, probably rocking a big heavy direct drive vs a minimalistic low power aka wimpy geared hub motor which have their attractiveness for forced riding with pas.

I hope you don't fall into the "efficiency" game either. I'd be more concerned about maximizing battery distance to going up hills at a good speed, and also to help by pedaling, and to some extend aerodynamics like a road bike. Justin did a video on efficiency and it was a great video.

btw the gassers will be riding circles around you when your out of juice and charging up your battery.
Just saying :wink:

But this is pointless. I mean, your bike is heavy and built with mostly heavy components. Why do you care about saving 125g in a pair of rims now?

Well was just curious of which rim was lighter. Ultimately I choose the stronger rim but couldn’t find accurate weight specs for neither.

 

[Eastwood]

I hope you don't fall into the "efficiency" game either. I'd be more concerned about maximizing battery distance to going up hills at a good speed, and also to help by pedaling, and to some extend aerodynamics like a road bike. Justin did a video on efficiency and it was a great video.

Yeah I don’t worry about efficiency too much. I don’t ignore it either but it’s not my focus. My focus right now is making my current build fast as possible without smoking the motor.

Yeah I’ve seen Justin’s videos :wink:
I like the hub motor boat lol

Its good to be curious, but not into the game of saving a few grams for an expensive price.

yeah I was just making sure there wasn’t like a 1 or 2 pound difference. familiar with Excel wheels but the pro wheels are new to me. I could care less about saving a few grams as that doesn’t make any difference. I carry a book bag full of tools and 1/2 gallon of water so I was never looking to save a few grams lol I weighed my bike today it was right at 103 pounds. Nothing light about this setup but lighter than most enduro/clone builds.

btw the gassers will be riding circles around you when your out of juice and charging up your battery.
Just saying :wink:

Well depending on how long someone likes to ride. I ride around 2 hours, 3 hours max which my battery can supply that.