Why Lead-Carbon Batteries Will Deflate the Lithium-Ion Bubbl

[sk8norcal]

Why Lead-Carbon Batteries Will Deflate the Lithium-Ion Bubble

http://www.altenergystocks.com/archives/2009/07/why_leadcarbon_batteries_will_deflate_the_lithiumion_bubble.html

saw the link here,
http://www.mobilityunlimited.ca/battery_specs.htm

 

[MitchJi]

Hi,

For over a year I've been cautioning readers that while lithium-ion batteries are glamorous, sleek, sexy and hot; they are about to face a formidable challenge from lead-carbon batteries that are a little bulkier and heavier, but offer competitive cycle-life and power for a tiny fraction of the cost. To placate lithium fundamentalists and EV evangelists, I want to clearly state up front that lead-carbon batteries will probably not be the first choice for plug-in vehicles. Nevertheless, it is crystal clear that lead-carbon batteries will be the only sensible choice for micro, mild and full hybrid electric vehicles (HEV's)

The real meat and potatoes of the Moseley presentation, however, was a slide that compared the performance and price of the Ultrabattery against:

• * The Power Assist HEV Battery Goals established by the US Advanced Battery Consortium (USABC);
  * An Advanced Automotive Battery Conference (AABC) performance report on NiMH batteries; and
  * An AABC forecast on future generations of lithium-ion batteries.

 

[donorcycle]

the batteries will have some uses but they are too heavy for e-bikes. The main market will be stop-start automobiles and maybe hybrids.

 

[liveforphysics]

This guy is as high as a kite.

 

[Chalo]

This guy is as high as a kite.

Maybe. He certainly seems to possess a talent for finding and sharing the most ridiculous and-- shall I say it?-- profoundly retarded electric motos around.

But what's the word on Oasis lead-carbon cells these days? They were supposed to save the world a few years ago. Did they become the lead-sodium silicate cells of the '00s? All sound and fury, signifying nothing?

Chalo

 

[liveforphysics]

Its something people do to draw venture capitalist money from suckers who don't know how absurd it is.

Every few months you see another company promising the battery holy Grail. They get the VC money, then say, oops! Looks like it actually sucks. Thanks for the cash, we're moving on now.

 

[Chalo]

Its something people do to draw venture capitalist money from suckers who don't know how absurd it is.

Every few months you see another company promising the battery holy Grail. They get the VC money, then say, oops! Looks like it actually sucks. Thanks for the cash, we're moving on now.

The noteworthy one in my town was/is EEStor, the ultra-super-duper capacitor people. It's been a while, dudes. Weren't y'all gonna save the world?

Chalo