Philistine
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I am sorry the teachers that died did not have a gun and know how to use it because they died trying to save the kids and did not have the power to do so.
The kids had no one that could protect them from the crazy person with guns that walked right in the door.
You are so right E-Triker, that would explain why out of all the mass shootings that have occured in US states with insanely permissive gun laws (eg Texas, where I studied law for a year), out of all the mass shootings there have been all those countless examples of a vigalente returning fire with his hip holstered piece and ending the slaughter Western style.... Because that happens all the time right? In fact it is shameful how the blood lies on the hands of the gun control nuts, for all the massacres that were stopped or limited by vigilantes who stone cold popped those nuts right?
So putting aside Liquor store/convenience store/gas station stick ups where the shop guy shot dead the robbers (because almost all those are just cases caused by drug prohibition - very few people rob liquor stores for food money, they do it for illegal drugs), so putting those aside, let us now list all the massacres that were stopped by heroic gun carrying citizens in the US.........
Let us do it now........
None.....
(and let us put it in a time context)..... ever.......
WOO HOOO!
I stand to be corrected, but please post me one example of a whacko with a gun in the US who was stopped on a murder spree by a citizen (ie non-cop/army etc.) with a gun..... I wait with baited breath.....
I loved the posts of Thuds and Jeremy's above, Thuds post is why I read ES Biker Bar, because it challenges my preconcieved ideas and views, and it does this by being reasoned, measured, and hence enlightening for me. I learned something from Thuds post, because it was not invective or dogma, it was really well thought out and validly argued.
I personally think that certain types of guns should be controlled (eg semi-autos and handguns), because unlike drugs (which should be legalised, because it is natural and normal for people to either desire them, or to have health problems with them), by criminalising guns you limit the victims (generally) to criminals, because only criminals (generally) want them (when criminalised). You can see this in Australia, handguns are rampant in Southwest Sydney, but unless you are a Lebanese Muslim or an outlaw motorcycle gang member (in which case you are very likely to get shot), you are more likely to be eaten by a shark on dry land than get shot.