AussieJester said:
Its actually just part of the deal that comes with body positioning on a bike when performance riding AW...the dragging of the knee comes about when the body is positioned forward and to the side of the bike (to the side your turning)
Ah....well, since I'm leaning *back* for aero rather than forward, there's not a "need" or apparently a natural moving of the knee toward the track; I seem to be moving opposite that kind of positioning because of my recumbent setup.
I'm not sure if it would make a difference if I tried forcing my knee out or not (I would also have to modify the seat so that the front lower tube of it does not protrude where it does now, as that will prevent knee-out at some leg/crank positions).
Once I get back with Evoforce and get my leg guards back (I accidentally left them in the trailer when I separated from the rest of the group at the Mesa-end of the light rail for the rest of my trip home), I will experiment with this, if I cna find a good safe empty place to try turns at speeds high enough to be able to lean hard over on.
the knee is partly used as used as a 'feeler gauge' of sorts to judge your lean angle, hanging off the bike and using the knee allows to keep the bike more upright and maximize the surface area of the tire in contact with the ground, in short, it allows you to corner faster....
Ah. Makes sense. Although I will need to cover the leather knee pad portion with slick plastic (like from an elbow pad or something) to make a skid-plate, so the leather doesn't grab and rip off or worse twist the pad around. (it's already torn on the rigth knee from my slide :lol
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I have also seen riders lose traction on the front end of the bike in a turn and literally 'pick the bike up' with their knee saving it from a certain fall.
As heavy as CrazyBike2 is, and as weak as I am, I do not think I could actually provide enough strength to do that, but it is worth a shot. Another problem is that I am so low on the bike that I think my knee is below the point at which I can use it as a fulcrum to drive the bike upwards, and would instead end up helping the already-lifting wheel to lift more.
Its not necessary to drag your knee to corner fast, and i wouldn't recommend trying it on any roads either unless you know them well hitting a bump or dragging your knee through a pot hole it tickles a lil...You should also have 'knee sliders' on your knees so your 'pants' dont catch..
"Tickles"...:lol: That's the kind of tickle I think I'd like to avoid.
dogman said:
Awesome to see him leaning it like that on the first laps on the track!
Well, there wasn't really any way I could turn hard enough if I didn't, although it was danged spooky the first time I leaned over because I was expecting to dig the cargo pod (even though it was not on there at the time) into the track and spin the bike on the front corner of it.
I've done that a couple of times on the road trying to make a corner without slowing down back when I first put them on there sometime last year. :lol: I kept trying to force myself to lean it over further and further each time I cornered; it's really hard to do because everything in me says NOT to do that.
He offered me a lap or two on CB, but I was so tired by then I reallly needed to recharge for the racing.
So far I've only gotten three people to ever even sit on CB2, and only two of them to actually ride it; both of them pretty much only straight up and down the street, kind of afraid to steer it since it's non-1:1 steering ratio does take some getting used to. I really wanna see other people on it that actually know how to handle a bike at speed; hopefully that'll happen before I wreck it doing some experiment.
The racing is fun, but really 75% who attend are very happy to just do some laps durning the practice sessions. Fun as hell at any speed you are comfy at.
OH, yes, indeed.
The knee thing is all about getting some more weight on the inside of the bike. Grand prix riders shift the entire ass over there. I find that is kinda hard to shift the ass much on regular bike seats. CB is so low already, it's an obvious advantage.
Hmm. As far out as I am able to lean on it, I wonder if I could simply pull myself up off the seat a little with the bars to further get weight out towards the inside of the curve? Another experiment to try if I can find a place safe enough to do this stuff here in Phoenix.
Wait till he gets the fast bike really finished!
As long as he doesn't let me near his spokes and tires he'll be ok. :lol: