Brushless dual 6kw ALIEN Power system - electric longboard

I saw your thread here first time today, awsome !! Great work, excellent Board. Little much power.
I have build my own board last year and use the smaller 6354 motor.
Here is the link - Info about it, drives perfect in my opinion. http://scratcher.de/cityboard/street.htm

But I can't do all the the cnc works, a friend helps me to made the motorbraket and the drive wheel.
 
Hi
Yes that's a great build.. I went with the extra power as I need it to go up hills..., and it does it easily.. The power is there but I don't use it most of the time but I believe in having power in reserve as everything is built stronger so will last longer when your not killing the motors all the time..
The other beauty of my kit is that it fits straight on standard trucks and wheels and requires no machining of either. :D
I am looking at doing another build with smaller motors,batteries and shorter deck and a nunchuck control for a more ' street ' style .. Watch this space
 
Thanks for your comments.
There many wheels out there but beleave me !! the krypto 85mm wheels drive very very nice. The Abec11 83mm wheels are also an excellent choice :) and my second board whitch is finish in 1 - 2 weeks have orangatang 72,5 mm. This will be my ultralight board, not 5,25 Kg ..... less than 4,5Kg. I must made some videos soon.
But since today I'm a beetbocks fan, this work is perfect professionel. I know all manufactures for e-boards but beetbocks has build a better one :)

My Motor 6354 is going not warm while driving and uphills is fine. I live in Germany Berlin, there no hills only flat and my board is perfect for it. You can carry it anywhere. 2 - wheel drive is perfect for some hill terrain.

It's great that you sell your parts for the trucks and driving wheel, absolut perfect for self made e-board builders. This is the big problem of an self made e-board: the motor mount and the driving wheel.

You're using the 6374 motor ?? same bore as my 6354 ?
 
I use 7s LiMn cells. I using singel cells to build my battery pack by myself and it fits all perfect and small to the deck.
 
Hi
Well the my current deck is 38" so I'm looking to go down to maybe 34-35" that deck does look good or maybe http://www.landyachtz.com/D25.cfm?PID=546 then it will have only one lipo and the smaller 2k motor so the weight should be around 6.5kg but with still plenty if power and I may experiment with different wheel size. Yes I will try to get rid of the 1/2 riser in this one and just change the bracket to accommodate the smaller motor and get the ground clearance and truck clearance.Its going to something nice as I've learnt so much making this one :D hopefully the nunchuck will be ready by the time this I'd done.. I'm also thinking maybe a carbon deck for lightness,stiffness and just because they look good!!!!
I'll keep you all posted!,
P.s I have 7 kits ready to ship off when I return from holiday next week so ill be messaging all you waiting .. No long now and thanks for waiting...
 
Nice Top Speed 34 Deck ! what motor do you use for your board ? is it the 6374 and 200 rpm/volt ?
 
yeah, that top speed looks great.
would fit bigger wheels better...
its got slight rocker though, taking away some "motor/deck" clearance, (i still like the "motor well" idea)

have you check out Lush boards, they are a UK brand, not sure if its made in UK though....
I know Hollys are made in China... I think only Randals and Gullwings are still US made.. (for cast longboard trucks)


There many wheels out there but beleave me !! the krypto 85mm wheels drive very very nice. The Abec11 83mm wheels are also an excellent choice :) and my second board whitch is finish in 1 - 2 weeks have orangatang 72,5 mm
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i have krypto 85mm, they don't ride any where as nice as the current crop of quality wheels. Kryptonics is dead to me, they were bought out and now make their stuff in China, they haven't brought out any new quality wheels in over ten years.

The thing is there isn't many quality wheels with exposed spoke hubs, especially under 80mm range...

here' s a another one, seismic speedvent
http://www.daddiesboardshop.com/longboards/wheels/brand/seismic

here's an idea,
if you want to drill through the wheels like what Boosted have done,
u might take a look at wheels with clear urethane, u can see the core...
http://www.daddiesboardshop.com/alligator-wheels-71mm
 
yes I know the wheels that boosted are using and the seismic speed vents are my next choice :) whitch I prefer for the next e-board. The new speed vents are also in 85mm .... I will try to get some, never tested this wheels before.
The orangatang 4 president are much comfortable, great cruising. But I like the 85mm kryto, don't know why.
 
Hey all,
Just a heads up from any Australia members who need to source some holey trucks and bec 11 wheels just give me a call on 0439 194 041 I live in adelaide and keep in contact with the Australian skate and longboard shop distrabutor, and can find you close stores who stock the trucks and wheels or can get the trucks and wheels shipped to you, and get you good prices,
Richard has contacted me and asked me to help you all out, and I'm happy to:)

Shipping of the trucks and wheels from uk to aus isn't the cheapest when we can get the trucks and wheels from around the same price here:)
 
Hi!! Great thread!
Im new to this whole longboard and was inspired by boosted boards to create my own...
I've been doing some research for couple of days now and trying to figure out my own combination.

Has anyone used a larger wheel? I see 90mm 97mm wheels by ABEC and wondering which deck truck combination will fit them without wheel bite. The roads that I want to ride on are pretty rough and i'm trying to go wheels as large as possible for smoother riding over cracks.
Can anyone recommend a good deck truck wheel combination?
 
Hi beetbox.. I'm living in South Korea right now and how much would it cost to buy your kit and ship to Korea? And i'm also wondering how to pay for it? Do you use paypal or something?

Also I'm trying to go with boosted boards style with 2rwd.. maybe i'll use 2 x 1kw motors and you think i can fit them with your kit boosted boards style?
 
Hi
I'm sorry I cannot ship to Korea . The brackets are designed to fit front and back and so are handed that way.
They could be reversed but it would mean making then again.
Sorry about that
Beetbocks
 
hmin7186 said:
Hi beetbox.. I'm living in South Korea right now and how much would it cost to buy your kit and ship to Korea? And i'm also wondering how to pay for it? Do you use paypal or something?

Also I'm trying to go with boosted boards style with 2rwd.. maybe i'll use 2 x 1kw motors and you think i can fit them with your kit boosted boards style?
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Hey man I have beetbox's kit, and I'm using smaller motors with different screw pattern, if you want to do the same as boosted boards you will need 40mm motors as they as small enough to fit on the one truck, but you will need Richard (beetbox) to make you a mount with a smaller bore for the motor shaft and to not have the normal holes drilled and drill your own or ask Richard to drill the screw pattern for you motor. So you need to pick a motor first,

I've experimented with a 3kw motor similar to the motor Richard has used, 60mm I brought an extra long shaft for the motor, I mounted the motor to Richards mount, and put the shaft through the motor with more over hang to the other side.
Put pulleys onto each side of the shaft and bucked the belts up, so technically it's 2wd but both rear wheels, the motor is powerful enough to power the board, one motor means less battery's or more rang, smaller controller and all together lighter setup. Excellent it all work find but I'm doing more testing as I don't know if it was a safe idea:)
 
I'd be interested to see how that works Jacob as its like a car with a solid axle and no diff, so when you turn a corner the outer wheel is traveling further than the inside wheel and must go faster in order to not skid..i assume that's why the boosted board has 2 motors independently driving the wheels. It may work though as the distance between the wheels is only 10".. But hey that's what my kit is for, so people can do there own set up...
The other reason I went with the front and back drive was because ,like u say 2.x 3k motor won't it side by side and also when your moving around the board to turn and tuck etc , there's always drive on at least one wheel.. :D
FYI the flat brackets are cut by waterjet and I have to have to order a minimum of 10 to get them at a reasonable price ,so the holes cannot be changed really.. Unless 10 people want the same pcd.. :)
Let me know how it goes...
I am looking at doing a kit for the smaller motor ,as you say Jacob that means smaller ESC,smaller battery meaning less weight..and if I can get the carbon deck to suit my needs..one super light powered board.... Watch this space.....
 
beetbocks said:
I am looking at doing a kit for the smaller motor ,as you say Jacob that means smaller ESC,smaller battery meaning less weight..
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The current bracket will fit what motor size? And when you say smaller motor are you thinking of designing a new flat motor bracket or a whole new kit?

It will be very cool to just replace one part of the existing kit to fit smaller motors.
 
beetbocks said:
Hi
I'm sorry I cannot ship to Korea . The brackets are designed to fit front and back and so are handed that way.
They could be reversed but it would mean making then again.
Sorry about that
Beetbocks
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Since I'm going to do 2rwd setup, like jacob said i'm gonna have to customize my own brackets for smaller motors.. I guess I'll do some CAD work and get it machined.. I'll keep you guys posted on how that goes.

However, Richard do you think you could share CADdrawings of the wheel hub and gears since you can't ship to korea? I think I can draw a bracket but have no idea how to go about the wheel hub to make something as good as yours
 
I've experimented with a 3kw motor similar to the motor Richard has used, 60mm I brought an extra long shaft for the motor, I mounted the motor to Richards mount, and put the shaft through the motor with more over hang to the other side.
Put pulleys onto each side of the shaft and bucked the belts up, so technically it's 2wd but both rear wheels, the motor is powerful enough to power the board, one motor means less battery's or more rang, smaller controller and all together lighter setup. Excellent it all work find but I'm doing more testing as I don't know if it was a safe idea:)
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Could you post a pic of your setup? I'm not sure I've understood how your setup is.
And what do you guys think is the advantages of boosted boards style 2rwd setup compared to a single wheel drive setup?
I'm just doing it because it looks nicer and feels like driving two wheels will be more stable than driving one wheel... no confirmed scientific reason
 
hmin7186 said:
I've experimented with a 3kw motor similar to the motor Richard has used, 60mm I brought an extra long shaft for the motor, I mounted the motor to Richards mount, and put the shaft through the motor with more over hang to the other side.
Put pulleys onto each side of the shaft and bucked the belts up, so technically it's 2wd but both rear wheels, the motor is powerful enough to power the board, one motor means less battery's or more rang, smaller controller and all together lighter setup. Excellent it all work find but I'm doing more testing as I don't know if it was a safe idea:)
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Could you post a pic of your setup? I'm not sure I've understood how your setup is.
And what do you guys think is the advantages of boosted boards style 2rwd setup compared to a single wheel drive setup?
I'm just doing it because it looks nicer and feels like driving two wheels will be more stable than driving one wheel... no confirmed scientific reason
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Lots of people have grate setups with just one motor, but there is the fact of when turning a corner at speed, your drive wheel can loose traction on the ground, that is what I have found, you don't get much drag to one side, but I really just feel that two motors makes hill climbing better, and buts lest strain on your motors
 
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