Canadian Tire Izip

[bgoates]

Can anybody tell me what the controller voltage and amp rating is for a Canadian Tire Schwinn Izip bike? In Canada the Schwinn is exclusive to Cdn Tire. The bike looks identical to a Mongoose (same colour of battery, same Currie motor, same set-up). I want to know if I can run 36 V on this bike with the OEM controller.

Many Thanks
Blair

 

[Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh]

People here have not gone as high as 48V with the MY1018Z, since the stock currie (ananda) controller FETs are rated only to 40V. More may try 36V if cooling the motor is easy.

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2163

 

[bgoates]

Here is the link for any who may be interested.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443296291&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396673780&bmUID=1204993619507&deptid=1408474396672192&ctgrid=1408474396672200&subctgrid=1408474396673780

I would like to know if the controller can handle 36 V. Can I link a 12V high amp car battery to the existing 24V that are there ?

Thanks

 

[TylerDurden]

It will likely handle 36V. There have been two types of controller seen on these bikes: Ananda and another unidentified v-shaped box.

The only two members who have burned-up a currie/unite motor are Reid and Safe, both were cranking up hills without cooling mods on the motor. Reid added cooling to his motor and runs 36V no problem. YMMV

I would advise against using a flooded lead-acid battery on a bike. Chicks do not dig acid scars. You might find some cheap SLAs or AGMs instead.

 

[bgoates]

Do you think one of these power paks would work ?

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443249994&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672502&bmUID=1205080093511&deptid=1408474396672395&ctgrid=1408474396672406&subctgrid=1408474396672502

 

[TylerDurden]

Do you think one of these power paks would work ?

Sure... you could keep it intact and also enjoy the benefits of the unit, or just use the SLA battery inside. If you aren't interested in the multiple uses, finding just an SLA battery might be a lot cheaper.

 

[efreak]

I liked the other bike that they have the strong it is like 900 to 1000 $ can and it has a hub motor and available li battery upgrade 36 volts

they might stil hav ethem

efreak

 

[bgoates]

I have a Strong GTS bike too. I bought it two weeks ago. Strong has gone out of business and Canadian Tire was selling these at 1\2 price ie $500. It is a nice bike with all the bells and whistles. I don't have any specs thought, ie hub motor wattage, controller voltage, maker of hub motor, ect. All I know is that I have 36V woth of batteries, ie 3x12V. If you have any specs please post them for me. The Strong website is shut down.

Thanks

 

[bgoates]

Does anybody know what motor the Strong GTS e-bike has ?

 

[wasp]

i'm running 36 volts thru my izip and have had no problems
i'm 220 lbs and at 36 volt's plus battery i wen't from a cruising speed of 18-28 with top speed over 36kmh

 

[Mathurin]

Well, the stong is sold by isd under another name, and they have cut view of the motor here:
http://www.velo-electrique.com/Pages/moteurs.htm

It looks very similar to what Brett White sells as a P3:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/solarbbq/P3.htm

 

[wasp]

my controller is 24v 35a had a look

 

[wasp]

i want to start modding my bike...well i already overvolt it as high as 40 volts(cb24v450 mongoose clone)...schwinn izip
the motor i'm thinking about is the 1020z3 600 watt w/gearbox...will this work?
the motor i have on now is 1016 24volt...looks identical to the 1018 36volt...the set up looks the same for the 1020z3 is it a direct bolt on?will my stock controller work?
i have searched many forums but they mostly list hub motors....can someone offer some assistance or opinions(tyler) you seem to work these motors any advice or thoughts on upgrading the motor and controller(will upgrade to lipo4)
thx wasp
p.s is the speed of a ebike regulated by volts or controller?

 

[TylerDurden]

p.s is the speed of a ebike regulated by volts or controller?

Both:

The pack voltage will determine the upper limit of the motor rpm, provided the controller can handle the peak voltage and peak current.

Controllers are like electronic lamp-dimmers with an added element... they function as a "buck convertor": as they reduce the on-time, they take the energy and convert it to current (in conjunction with the motor)... so you get more torque as a benefit.

 

[wasp]

p.s is the speed of a ebike regulated by volts or controller?

Both:

The pack voltage will determine the upper limit of the motor rpm, provided the controller can handle the peak voltage and peak current.

Controllers are like electronic lamp-dimmers with an added element... they function as a "buck convertor": as they reduce the on-time, they take the energy and convert it to current (in conjunction with the motor)... so you get more torque as a benefit.

thx for the answers...btw torque is very addictive

 

[TylerDurden]

...btw torque is very addictive

Yeah... the desire for speed seems to be inate in humans. :?

 

[wasp]

TylerDurden wrote:
People here have not gone as high as 48V with the MY1018Z, since the stock currie (ananda) controller FETs are rated only to 40V. More may try 36V if cooling the motor is easy.

i'm running 42volts with lithium and have no problems
and it's the ananda controller...heard they were rated
for 60v or is it the caps ?

thx wasp

 

[bgoates]

I purchased two Strong GTS bikes from Cdn Tire for 1/2 price ($500 ea) ....they have been nothing but crap. A solder keeps burning out in the motor or the controller malfunctions. I have repaired about 6 motors and waiting for two controllers on warranty.

I took one of the 36 Volt battery back from the Strong bikes and connected it directly to the Schwinn I-zip controller and WOW....does it really move ! I haven't done any cooling mods and I'm monitoring the Curries motor engine temp frequently when I ride and so far no problems.

 

[wasp]

I purchased two Strong GTS bikes from Cdn Tire for 1/2 price ($500 ea) ....they have been nothing but crap. A solder keeps burning out in the motor or the controller malfunctions. I have repaired about 6 motors and waiting for two controllers on warranty.

I took one of the 36 Volt battery back from the Strong bikes and connected it directly to the Schwinn I-zip controller and WOW....does it really move ! I haven't done any cooling mods and I'm monitoring the Curries motor engine temp frequently when I ride and so far no problems.

24lbs lighter than running 3 12v bats also max volts with sla's 40 ...lithium 42
speed 45kmh+ i'm 205lb

thx wasp

 

[docnjoj]

I've run my MY1018 on 42 volts without a problem in very hot weather. I think with Tylers holes and the filter sock from another group member it is a viable option to a hub. Much better torque and simple cheap replacement! If only the noise could be attenuated!!!
otherDoc

 

[wasp]

i just pulled my izip controller out and apart for a look...
only 4 fet's and caps are 63v...x2
will post pic's tomorrow
now off to see what it will take...55v maybe

 

[64ragtop]

i just pulled my izip controller out and apart for a look...
only 4 fet's and caps are 63v...x2
will post pic's tomorrow
now off to see what it will take...55v maybe

AAaahhhhh, DESTRUCTIVE testing - always my favorite, and even more fun if it's with someone else's money!!!

(also known as the blue smoke test - when the smoke comes out, ya know it's TOAST!

ATB

BC

 

[wasp]

ok so update...
42v limn freewheel speed 55.2 kmh
52v nicd freewheel speed 61.1 kmh
next 57ish...volts that is
need a break before next test
btw it is destuctive testing but at no cost to me...

 

[wasp]

56.5-57 volts wheelspeed..........69.6kmh
doh!!! so close to 70
should i go any higher....
these motors are unbelievable to those
who haven't tried them

 

[docnjoj]

I always thought Izip was powered by a Currie Brushless, and Ezip by the MY1018?????? Also no load values dont really tell that much. I think a little weight on the bike and that motor will melt at those voltages
otherDoc