Discussion of the Banned - Dedicated thread.

[swbluto]

Banned users to discuss:

Safe
Don

And everybody else. So, let the worthy discussion commence.

I'll start with one noteworthy comment. Safe has the highest post count among this entire site, despite not having posted for over a month. That must mean he was the most contributive.

 

[TylerDurden]

I noticed Deafscooter is back... is Craig un-banned, or did the ban-list fail with the last phpBB software upgrade?

 

[Ypedal]

I noticed Deafscooter is back... is Craig un-banned, or did the ban-list fail with the last phpBB software upgrade?

? under what sig ?

 

[TylerDurden]

I noticed Deafscooter is back... is Craig un-banned, or did the ban-list fail with the last phpBB software upgrade?

? under what sig ?

http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=10414&start=0

 

[Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh]

i apologize for being of a simple mind
but where's the lizt?
i seem to have missed it when it was first announced.

 

[TylerDurden]

unpublished.

 

[Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh]

then how can we obey the rule if we don't know who is band when?

 

[TylerDurden]

then how can we obey the rule if we don't know who is band when?

Now who's Socratease?

System is evolving, clearly. Enjoy the ride. Please keep arms & legs inside the cabin and wait until the vehicle comes to a complete stop before vomiting in your companion's lap.

 

[EMF]

then how can we obey the rule if we don't know who is band when?

The Moderators Panel on other phpBB forums automatically adds the word "banned" in the avatar area when you invoke the ban. Why it does not work like that here seems odd to me.

 

[Link]

I'll start with one noteworthy comment. Safe has the highest post count among this entire site, despite not having posted for over a month. That must mean he was the most contributive.

 

[Reid Welch]

Total tolerance and forebearance of eccentrics is the way.

The golden rule. You may be a social misfit, but an ebike genius.
You may be full of BS. We'll know that and tease you into submission of some sort.

Admin explains to complainants that ES is trying to be as all-inclusive as possible, all the time.
Bans should be temporary, apologetic (even though the offender was impossible to deal with.
Then let them come back in, with open arms.

We must operate as a sort of family, with geniuses, slackers, straights, gun lovers, gays, flower children, poets, etc.


I have been summarily banned from various forums. My behavior elsewhere was no different than here.
Why was I banned? No reasons or warnings were ever given: I was just shut off. This has happened about six times in nine years.
Too many forums are fiefdoms for the administrators. I like ES because they try terribly hard to allow all sorts of behavior; even that that offends delicate egos.

Perhaps counciling the complainers, asking them to turn the other cheek, and not antagonize or ride the difficult members too hard.
I think of Randy in particular. Yes, nutty and adamant and abusive. So, edit his posts if required, after warning him, but don't ban him forever.

I miss very much, Knoxie. He never made a bad wave here. And safe? I never had a problem.
Trolls are sport. I will show you how I deal with trolls...in verse, a history of the Modern Troll.

And I? I'm a little lamb of gentleness who never causes trouble, but would like to kill a cop in real life.
I guess I have my own set of issues. Gay rights is not one of them. Police beatings, are.

Any police members here? I bet you are a better cop than any that we have in this nasty town called Miami.

Keep ES liberal and loving. If you had a miscreant brother, would you kill him? That's what a ban is. A ban is absolutely devastating to the ego.
These are people, imperfect, yet human and therefore worthy of forgiveness and tolerance. I'm personally working on my cop-phobia. It's a recent problem.
I will not hold a grudge forever. I can and will forgive anybody.

Anthropomorphizing: silly but humane
[youtube]OdrxfqCIJyo[/youtube]
Such a sad voice....judge not, lest....

 

[Reid Welch]

Poetry critical is a magnet for all kinds of misfits.
Its owner is AWOL. Bans cannot even be made; the moderators don't have that power.
Some beseiged members quit, then come back under a new name.
http://www.poetrycritical.net/forum/read/190498/
BANNED
"Trashpoodle" is "joey", is Michael Bauer: a Randy-type: HIS is the only opinion worth following.

We mostly all laugh him down. I made a "tribute" to the guy. You may have seen this video.
It was ad lib and made simply with WMM and stolen pictures from the 'net plus a three images of me.

joey was tickled to be so-honored (dishonored). He got the attention he wanted. I got to have some fun.
He's irrepressibly insensitive to criticism. He hates that I can drop names of dozens of celebrities that I knew personally.
He is college educated, 60, and professionally rejected most all of his life. He's to be pitied more than scorned.

[youtube]gFqspKY8om0[/youtube]
According to joey, I have never written a poem worth reading.
So I made a song video for him and he likes it.


Similarly, Tasha, hellion, harpy, man-hater, never missed a chance to claw me to pieces
until I made a most beautiful poem of kindness and compassion.
We became friends via a poem, just for her, because of a few, empathetic words.
Roll over, surrender, show your soft side? She was grateful, tamed, and kindly ever after.


Tasha

Let's make pearls
instead of quarrels?

Place a grain of sand inside me
—bide a while—idle wild
while my nature smooths the grit
until it turns a pearl—or pit.

I surrender—see your pearl?
This gift for you—its glow is amber
in the firelight on the beach
all the nights the embers reach

—for butter, salt, a bit of bread.
My life was that—and this is said
with no regrets—except that now

I am devoured

and so propose

we dance on in the moontime pale
strumming pearls of words on strings
forgetting knots and without clasps.

See our words float to the sky?
Many moons—are human sighs.


7 Jun 08


Tolerance, forgiveness, kindness, require cultivation.
I fail too often, but am much more gentle now in middle age than when young.

 

[Anonymous]

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[swbluto]

I read the stuff that interests me and forget the rest. And noise about noise is just more noise, it reduces the signal to noise ratio. Paraphrasing something I read somewhere: if it makes you contract, stop and listen, if it helps you expand, proceed with joy.

It's only noise if you choose to read about it and consider it noise. For example, if this post was considered "noise about noise", the most noisy it could get is the simple glance of a thread's title. Sounds boring? Too socially immature? Skip it. It's as simple as that. I don't read threads that I don't seem to be particularly interesting and I'm pretty sure everyone must be selective when there's a sea of threads.

 

[Toorbough ULL-Zeveigh]

System is evolving, clearly. Enjoy the ride. Please keep arms & legs inside the cabin and wait until the vehicle comes to a complete stop before vomiting in your companion's lap.

only looking for clarity & just wanted to doublecheck i didn't miss something.

Safe has the highest post count among this entire site, despite not having posted for over a month. That must mean he was the most contributive.

number of ways to poke holes in that logic, i'll give just one.
by that yardstick knightmb has around 1200+ posts & no one has contributed more than him.




at the time draper was banned i had voiced my disagreement.
the thread is probably gone by now but to approximately repeat from memory, what i said was that generally speaking i oppose the nuclear deterrent.
the ultimate weapon of (permanently) banning someone because it's too tempting & too easy to press the button when u have that kind of power at ur disposal.
it should be invoked very sparingly & it's most effective when only used only as a threat.

i wish to make it clear that i never once complained to admin about safe or harmon for that matter.
i've only ever lodged two complaints, each against EMF & goldberg & they're both still free to post which is fine & how it should be.
to this day i still don't know specifically what got safe the permanent boot but can only surmise it was more of the same.

but despite my general feeling against a permanent ban, in safe's case it's the first & only time that i completely understand, totally agree with & fully support admins decision on pressing the red button.
for whatever reason likely stemming from his sense of superiority & elitist outlook, safe is incapable of modifying his behaviour, so in my opinion this was a justifiable kill.

 

[swbluto]

Safe has the highest post count among this entire site, despite not having posted for over a month. That must mean he was the most contributive.

number of ways to poke holes in that logic, i'll give just one.
by that yardstick knightmb has around 1200+ posts & no one has contributed more than him.




at the time draper was banned i had voiced my disagreement.
the thread is probably gone by now but to approximately repeat from memory, what i said was that generally speaking i oppose the nuclear deterrent.
the ultimate weapon of (permanently) banning someone because it's too tempting & too easy to press the button when u have that kind of power at ur disposal.
it should be invoked very sparingly & it's most effective when only used only as a threat.

i wish to make it clear that i never once complained to admin about safe or harmon for that matter.
i've only ever lodged two complaints, each against EMF & goldberg & they're both still free to post which is fine & how it should be.
to this day i still don't know specifically what got safe the permanent boot but can only surmise it was more of the same.

but despite my general feeling against a permanent ban, in safe's case it's the first & only time that i completely understand, totally agree with & fully support admins decision on pressing the red button.
for whatever reason likely stemming from his sense of superiority & elitist outlook, safe is incapable of modifying his behaviour, so in my opinion this was a justifiable kill.

What's wrong with superiority and elitism if it comes with actual improvements and creativity? What wrong with humility and destitution when it comes with actual improvements and creativity? Ultimately, it seems many of Safe's unfavored characteristics seem completely irrelevant to advancements and he seemed to be earnest in improving the state of the ebike even if that meant improving his understanding and questioning others.

But, anyways, it wasn't serious, if you get what the italics imply. I understand that a program could send in random messages at a constant rate exceeding that of a human's ability, but yet whose contribution in content would be below any human who's submitted a post(Although, there are some questionable cases). Also, heh, heh, my "is Socrates Safe?" thread was just coming from a post that Safe made in the past about comparing himself to Socrates. It seemed kind of ironic, since being "self-effacing" and other socratic characteristics were belied by vocalized self-comparisons to Socrates himself, so I was wondering if anyone would find humor in the comparison.