E-S Phasor Electric Bike Owners

[Rodney64]

Thanks for posting Scratch. Shame about the frame and yes I can understand why you could not wait its a long time once you commit the deposit.

 

[Scratch1973]

Does anyone know what the current wait time is now??

 

[Rix]

Does anyone know what the current wait time is now??

PM Dpearce. I hear he has an inside connection to Phasor cycles. :wink:

 

[ohzee]

Your still losing a volt a day?
if I see one thing one color stock, I need to get it in that color. Bad right?
Hope you enjoy it.

Im the same way. Especially if its any darker shade of green. My favortite. A while back, I saw a forest green Phasor frame. Beutiful, I would love to see that one built up. Rod's blue and DPearce's green are my second favorites. But Korpin's white and HD Killers Black look trick as well. Maybe the phasor frames look great in any color.

Rix that's my frame.. Is a forest green.. I was looking at it last night.. it's almost spring time in Ohio and I am about to start getting the bike together and ordering what I need.

Sorry I am so slow , but Winter really throws a wrench in my plans living here in Ohio.

Trying to figure out what color fork I want as I am not sure I can find one that will match.. So was thinking id go black.

 

[Rix]

Ohzee, I think the Fox Fork would look beutiful on your forest green frame. See pic. Get a matching shock, pure sexy. I know Ohio winters can be crappy. Go Browns . What do you plan on running for a motor and tire/wheel combo?

Rick

 

[ohzee]

I have an extra ht 3525 sitting around to start.. was thinking I may try a mac geared also tho im not sure..
or one of the 40xx crystalytes those seem pretty nice. Would love to use my 5404 , but my drops out are
not big enough.. anyway Ill start with the HT and go from there.

I will probably have a few motors I just swap in depending on what I want to do that week.

Thanks for the suggestions that's pretty much what I planned on doing. Was waiting for tax time & eoy bonus
so I could justify spending so much on good equipment

 

[Rix]

Ohzee,
Since you are still in the beginning phase of the build, I would contact David and see if you could send him your swingarm and have him widen it to 150 or 156mm what ever they are doing now at Phasor. I'm running 5.6kw through 5404 on my bomber, thats too sweet of a hub motor and a shame to not use it.

Rick

 

[Microbatman]

I am in the process of putting my phasor together.

I need help with the bottom bracket.

Were can I find the appropriate bottom bracket to fits 120mm wide BB?

Or is there some other solution besides buying a large bottom baacket?

 

[korpin]

Korpin,

Your Phasor looks excellent. My DH Team weighs in at 84 lbs with 24s2p lipos with a Clyte 4065 so as far as I can tell that is one light build.

What's the whole set up again? You've changed somethings ( I think!) and I lost track of what your running now.

Tom

WELL BOXXER world cup forks and vivid air shock with 4065 vented and heat sensored with 90 volt system I believe its in between the stealth bomber and fighter as far as amp hours closer to fighter crazy bob tires with mr. tuffies and thorn proof tubes with green goop and 10 gauge spokes in back...auriga brakes 200 rear 180 front 9 speed cassette...REALLY want a shclumph anybody know whats up with group buy?

 

[Rodney64]

I am in the process of putting my phasor together.

I need help with the bottom bracket.

Were can I find the appropriate bottom bracket to fits 120mm wide BB?

Or is there some other solution besides buying a large bottom baacket?

Microbatman, The bottom bracket should have been sent with the frame

 

[dimpirate]

Hey korpin,
There wasn't enough interest for group buy....
We're the only ones interested in the 120mm bb version. The regular version can be bought thru us retailers at about $650.
The high speed or speed drive version for phasor frame is called "flyke".
I haven't ordered anything yet, because I'm still not sure if ill be getting high speed or speed drive and in what configuration.
Since ill be using cromotor only single speed14t freewheel my option are a bit more limited... 24" tire 155 cranks I'm thinking should clear ground.
Options I'm considering.

-speed drive (1.65) with chainring 53t (87.54)
No pedal home option

-high speed drive (2.5) with 34t (85t)
To big of a gear gap

Could also add 2nd chainring on speed drive, to manually change if I ever get stranded....
Also thinking of whites dos freewheel,......

I actually ran my current bicycle down to CA LVC few days ago. I have plenty of gears on it, pedaling seemed less productive than walking along with bike it sucked. Not something I want to do again, bike weighs less than projected phasor build to.
HS 3540 rear I hear these motors have a lot of rolling resistance...

Anyways korpin that's why I haven't contacted Schlumpf since last email, not sure what I want, though I am leaning towards 53t speed drive. Hoping not to have chain line issues either....
What are you thinking of getting??
Ill be ready to order in next week or 2... If your in a rush pm me and I'll get you past emails and info...

Oh the other thing, they have a contract with cycle monkey in USA, and they also happen to be the most expensive!
Haven't gotten into details but I'm hoping to purchase directly from Sweden.

Enough of that.....

Zombies just received cromotor, should be sent of to methods in next few days for temp sensor mod, and v3 CA.
Next of to John rob Holmes

Don't know if I'm going with 24" dh rims and 2.5 hookworms
Or 19" motorcycle rim with dual sport tires 3" rear 2.7" front

 

[Microbatman]

Rodney64
I will recheck the packing box. Thanks for the update. Love your bike great job. I will be running 17inch rims.
Still buying parts off pinkbike.com to put on it, so its gonna be some time before i get her going. I am also putting black 888s on it.

 

[Rodney64]

Rodney64
I will recheck the packing box. Thanks for the update. Love your bike great job. I will be running 17inch rims.
Still buying parts off pinkbike.com to put on it, so its gonna be some time before i get her going. I am also putting black 888s on it.

Microbatman yes it will be in its own small box. You too going the 17 inch motor cycle rim. Are you putting the 19 on the front.

 

[John in CR]

Has anyone filled that battery cavern all the way up yet? If so how much capacity fit? If not, how much do you guys think can fit?

 

[dimpirate]

Hey John check out phasorcycles.com
Hdkiller filled her up bunches! I think 105V 32ah

 

[John in CR]

Nice! For me big battery packs are worth every pound. I need it, because it takes a kwh to get up the mountains to the good riding areas. I think I can fit a bit more, so that gives me solid 2kwh of riding, and regen braking on the way down ensures plenty of juice to get home. 8)

 

[Microbatman]

Probably gonna go 17 in front as well so things match up. Will post pics and details once build gets on its way.

Pulled the packing box out of the attic and found the bottom bracket. Thanks for the suggestion. What a great contribution David has made with taking the detail to include a bottom bracket in this build. That could have been another $100 easy to find one.

 

[Rix]

Hey korpin,
Don't know if I'm going with 24" dh rims and 2.5 hookworms
Or 19" motorcycle rim with dual sport tires 3" rear 2.7" front

Dimpirate, in the pic, I have a 19x2.50 Bridgestone M23 mini motocross tire on the rear mounted to a prowheel racing rim 19x1.4. Outer Diameter of that tire is 24.7 and width is 3" even. The front is a 24"MTB rim that came stock on the stealth with a 24x3 Duro Razorback tire. I went to the motorcycle tire because I was constantly pinch flatting the duro on the rear. Since going to this setup, I have 644 miles and no flats yet. I will probably go to a 17" rear and a 3x17 Shinko SR241 trials tire which has an OD of 23.7. I thought the pic may help you with your decision.

Rick

 

[litespeed]

I just have to say that is such an excellent looking bike, Rix.

Tom

 

[Rix]

I just have to say that is such an excellent looking bike, Rix.
Tom

Thanks Tom, I really appreciate the comment. I would like to add that me posting a pic of my Bomber on Rod's Phasor thread was not meant to invade the Phasor Thread with Stealth bikes. My advocating the use of 17 or 19" Mini motocross rims and tires mounted on the rear hub motors of Phasors, Stealth bikes, or any ebike hub motors stems from a safety aspect and has nothig to do with the brand of bike. Over the last year of owning my bike, before I mounted the motorcycle rim, I had experienced several rear tire high speed blow outs on rough rocky roads and trails (over 30mph-50kph). I have litterly torn the sidewalls on a couple of Duro 24x3 Razorback tires. Some of the blowouts resulted in close calls with the terra firma. Simply put, an 80-120# (38-56kg) ebikes with 200# (90kg) riders putting out 3-7kw of power, need more than a mountainbike tire on the rear to be safe on most of the stuff I ride excluding paved roads and DOT maintained dirt roads/trails. I know from the successful Phasor builds on this thread, everyone is having good results with downhill MTB rims and tires. And I agree that downhill MTB tires and rims are adequate for these builds. But lets examine the word adequate. Adequate means barely good enough. Do you want a bike with a barely good enough rear wheel, or a slightly over built super tough setup at the price of a minimal weight penalty? Well that's for the individual owners to decide and thats the beuty of the Phasor, it can be built anyway the owner/builder wants it to be. Just my opinion, but I would like to add that since converting my bike to the rear wheel/tire mini motocross setup, no flats or close calls. The tire and rim combo I selected only weighs about 1.75# more or .75kg than the stock rim and 24x3 duro Razor back that came on the bike.

Rick

 

[litespeed]

Truth being know I feel I really screwed up going the heavy duty DH rim route because I was more worried about stealth , none of which my bike mimics in anyway shape or form. If I end up getting a Phasor or Greyborg frame I'll change it out.

Hind sight is always 20/20.

Tom

 

[Rix]

Truth being know I feel I really screwed up going the heavy duty DH rim route because I was more worried about stealth , none of which my bike mimics in anyway shape or form. If I end up getting a Phasor or Greyborg frame I'll change it out.
Hind sight is always 20/20.
Tom

The heavy duty DH rim setup is adequate, just not for what I am doing. Looking at the Phasor, its awesome. I couldn't imagine building one and not putting serious power through it and rippin off road with it. As far as the stealthiness goes with a motorcycle tire, check out ezza's video on the stealth forum. He is riding with some guys who have homebuilt downhill bikes with 21x1.6 motorcycle rims laced to 5404s running motorcycle trials tires 21x2.75 with an OD of about 27 inches. Even running those huge motorcycle tires on their bikes doesn't seem out of place at all. The video shows one of the guys riding wheelies and riding on bike paths. To the non assuming eye, it llooks like a big meaty bicycle tire. Its on page 199 of the Stealth thread.

Rick

 

[korpin]

HPC brake engineering dept has a few "undesirables" that must be weeded out!....I believe the problem is self evident

 

[dimpirate]

Hey korpin,
Don't know if I'm going with 24" dh rims and 2.5 hookworms
Or 19" motorcycle rim with dual sport tires 3" rear 2.7" front

Dimpirate, in the pic, I have a 19x2.50 Bridgestone M23 mini motocross tire on the rear mounted to a prowheel racing rim 19x1.4. Outer Diameter of that tire is 24.7 and width is 3" even. The front is a 24"MTB rim that came stock on the stealth with a 24x3 Duro Razorback tire. I went to the motorcycle tire because I was constantly pinch flatting the duro on the rear. Since going to this setup, I have 644 miles and no flats yet. I will probably go to a 17" rear and a 3x17 Shinko SR241 trials tire which has an OD of 23.7. I thought the pic may help you with your decision.

Rick

Thanks Rick,
I like how you put it about DH rim being "adequate"! With all the money I'm putting into phasor frame I may as well go for the motorcycle rim!
I've got a set of 17" rims I can get at a good price, though wanted to go with 19" to keep a bit more of a bicycle look going, guess 1" diameter +- shouldn't be to bad....
I definattely like the shinko 244 motorcycle tire.
Picture helps the duro your running on front wheel looks more Iike a motorcycle tire than the rear 3" tire!! .
What length cranks are most of you using on 17" to avoid hitting ground?

Fred

 

[Rix]

Dimpirate, I have 170mm on my bike. There are tons of clearence. As far as the Shinko 244 goes, I would take a look at the Shinko 241s, The Shinko SR241 2.75x17 is the exact same diameter as the 244 in the 3x17 which is 23.2 inches OD. The SR241 is 3.19 inches wide to the Shinko 244 which is 3.39 inches. Shinko also makes a SR241 3x17 also with a width of 3.39 and OD is 23.7. The catch is the 241 is just over a pound lighter than the 244s of the same size. I know why you like the 244s though, they strike me as the perfect 50/50 road/dirt tire which is what ebikes really need since we ride them everywhere. Rods videos show bush rides and road rides and the 244 would do both very well. I think the SR241 is more a a 35/65 road/dirt. The tire I am rollin on right now is 100% dirt. Looking back I wish I would have went with the 17" like the one Rod will have instead of the 19 I have. Oh well, I can always get some spoke cut and lace it up down the road. I spoke with David via PM a while back about the Phasor frame and clearence for a 23-24 inch tire. He said the geometry wouldnt' be affected much. You should have plenty of clearence to run 165-170mm crank arms. May not be able to pedal while making really sharp turns but everything else would be fine. Can't wait to see your build. I cant wait to see Rods modifications either. Good things are abound for the Phasor builds 8)

Rick