E-S Phasor Electric Bike Owners

I've previously upgraded my camera to a gopro but now I'm not able to edit it on my iPad. Maybe I can but don't have the correct software. Yes the apple program wasn't the best but quick. Now I'm looking for an editing program for windows 8 thats easy to use. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance Rod.
 
Rodney64 said:
Rix said:
Rod, how far out were the cells?


Not a lot Rick, 4.08 down to 4.03 but good to keep them in check. When you don't have a BMS then its important. Most cells range from 4.20down to 4.16 and with the charger cutting off at 100.4. Provided that the pack is kept within this then no cell goes over 4.2

Just had a nice ride today to pick up some loto winning. Had a good chance to test top speed on the blue Phasor. Maxed at 74 Kms per hour which considering that the 4080 is its laced into a 17 inch rim.

Good test today within the new controller and only warm to medium to touch.

That 4080 has got to pull like a tractor with your 17MC on the rear. Those cells weren't out of balence by much at all. With my dads pack,we have found that bulk charging and then balencing after makes the job super quick. We monitor the cells when bulk charging and it funny to watch when one cells voltage climbs higher the increased resistance causes the charge to direct towards the lower voltage cells. As long as the high cells don't go north of 4.2 volts, the pack seems to balence out really close with bulk charging as well. My dad speculates that if he was to keep the bulk charge current at a slow 1/4 C, the packs would probably self balence and never need smart balence chargering. I believe this would be true as long as all the cells degenerated at the same rate. Becuase we know that doesn't happen, will alwasy continue to monitor bulk charging and balence charging to avoid thermal breakdown aka Lipo Fire. So, it would appear that your controller problems are solved. thats awesom!! So whats going on with Ryans Phasor?
 
At the moment I'm running a 48 volt kit on Ryan's Phasor. Plan on putting the cromotor back on when I get a new controller for it. Still not sure if all the hall wires are ok but plan on doing some testing today.
 
Rodney64 said:
At the moment I'm running a 48 volt kit on Ryan's Phasor. Plan on putting the cromotor back on when I get a new controller for it. Still not sure if all the hall wires are ok but plan on doing some testing today.

SWEET! Keep us posted.
 
Rix said:
Rodney64 said:
At the moment I'm running a 48 volt kit on Ryan's Phasor. Plan on putting the cromotor back on when I get a new controller for it. Still not sure if all the hall wires are ok but plan on doing some testing today.

SWEET! Keep us posted.


Rick, Not making a lot of progress but a vid of Christmas lights here in my suburb. Will post up a vid of Perth group ride which is on tomorrow.

Lots of issues over the past 6 months (family sickness) but now on the improve.


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Great vid Rod, Timma really waxed those guys on the bikes. I had to watch that a couple of times. You know the Harley guy on the Nightster/Sportster was thinking that bicycles are slow and he could take his time smoking them off the line. Then Timma launched off the line with the equivalent of cutting 04s on the tree, they were like WTF!? Its funny, when you Pm'd me last year about your experience riding Q's Bomber, from what you described, I wondered if maybe the CA was turned down to 20AH or so. From Q's point of view, I could see turning the CA down on a demo bike to keep noobs from crashing and killing themselves. Now that you rode an uncorked Bomber, what do you think? Thanks for posting the vid.

Rick
 
Rix said:
Great vid Rod, Timma really waxed those guys on the bikes. I had to watch that a couple of times. You know the Harley guy on the Nightster/Sportster was thinking that bicycles are slow and he could take his time smoking them off the line. Then Timma launched off the line with the equivalent of cutting 04s on the tree, they were like WTF!? Its funny, when you Pm'd me last year about your experience riding Q's Bomber, from what you described, I wondered if maybe the CA was turned down to 20AH or so. From Q's point of view, I could see turning the CA down on a demo bike to keep noobs from crashing and killing themselves. Now that you rode an uncorked Bomber, what do you think? Thanks for posting the vid.

Rick


Thanks Rick, good to get the fed back on the vid.

Actually it was 2 girls on the Harleys and Timma did look pleased with himself when he arrived back poping the wheel over the curb.

Yes the Boomber felt good and it was powerful.



Looking a getting a commuter going running 48 volt. I do have a road bike steel frame. Ill purchase a 12S charger to bulk charge. One of my batteries will fit in one of kiwis boxes. The other option is Keplers bag that he uses on his commuter. This option will look more stealth.

Looking a a new controller as well for this build. Perhaps a small Kelly or Lyen 6 or 9 fet.

My curent white Phasor has one of Grins 25 amp controllers which I instaslled on the weekend. Its pushing the white phasor to 40 KMS an hour on 48 volt.
 
new set up...2 13 AH 52 volt batteries in series...they said its 115 hot off the charger they did a quick run outside the shop said it clocked 55 mph on the radar gun.....putting a CYCLE ANALYST on tomorrow may try regen HPC says they think it may damage the batteries at that high a voltage....let u guys know how it goes bike weighs 98 pounds now
 

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115 Volt, HPC65/4065, SHIIIITT! That thing will pull like a train and move. If you had the HPC80/4080, no doubt you would could go 65MPH :shock: :shock: with this set up. Probably safe to say you got the fastest Phasor on the west Coast. So, when do you get to ride it? Expecting a ride report when you get a chance.

Rick
 
Rix said:
115 Volt, HPC65/4065, SHIIIITT! That thing will pull like a train and move. If you had the HPC80/4080, no doubt you would could go 65MPH :shock: :shock: with this set up. Probably safe to say you got the fastest Phasor on the west Coast. So, when do you get to ride it? Expecting a ride report when you get a chance.

Rick


Yes interested as well Korpin how these batteries go. Which controller did you end up going with. I notice that HPC now have a 24 Fet crystalyte controller but im not sure if itll fit the front of frame without going over the sides.
 
WELL have a CA..voltage hot off the charger 116.8...did quick run at 35 amps with pedaling top speed only 39 mph....(my wheel diameter was set probably 75 mm too small)...but heres the weird part: upped the amps to 40,speed dropped to 35 mph???? I am confused..did I set something wrong on CA??....is it possible that the controller is getting battery voltage in series but sending power to motor in parallel ?
 

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korpin said:
WELL have a CA..voltage hot off the charger 116.8...did quick run at 35 amps with pedaling top speed only 39 mph....(my wheel diameter was set probably 75 mm too small)...but heres the weird part: upped the amps to 40,speed dropped to 35 mph???? I am confused..did I set something wrong on CA??....is it possible that the controller is getting battery voltage in series but sending power to motor in parallel ?

Have you checked your CA under menu settings? It should be set at 99MPH. Since your increase in amps is apparently decreasing your top speed, even though this doesn't make sense, have tried decreasing your AH and running? I would take your machine back to HPC since they know their product best.

Rick
 
Rix said:
korpin said:
WELL have a CA..voltage hot off the charger 116.8...did quick run at 35 amps with pedaling top speed only 39 mph....(my wheel diameter was set probably 75 mm too small)...but heres the weird part: upped the amps to 40,speed dropped to 35 mph???? I am confused..did I set something wrong on CA??....is it possible that the controller is getting battery voltage in series but sending power to motor in parallel ?

Have you checked your CA under menu settings? It should be set at 99MPH. Since your increase in amps is apparently decreasing your top speed, even though this doesn't make sense, have tried decreasing your AH and running? I would take your machine back to HPC since they know their product best.

Rick
YES SET AT 99 MPH I guess u mean to say decreasing my amps NOT AH but I will try that HPC told me to try turning the amps all the way up to 80..is that safe???
 
jonescg said:
Somewhere in there you need to adjust the Vsense value.

I have started to cut some Lexan up for your other battery pack, hope to get that finished tomorrow. I'm still yet to get up to Osborne park to collect my soldering irons


Thanks Chris, I've managed to adjust the Vsence value and now it's sitting on 50.4 volts. Previously it was 114 volts.

I've also adjusted the shunt from 1.33 to 4,33
 
pendragon8000 said:
i suspect the voltage sag from the additional current is reducing your top speed, if you had a long enough run it might creep up to 40 again.

well the main point is at 40 amps and 116 volts this bike should be screaming over 50...not 35....guess I got some CA settings wrong...THE HIGH SPEED run at 55 was done with crystal display
 
korpin said:
pendragon8000 said:
i suspect the voltage sag from the additional current is reducing your top speed, if you had a long enough run it might creep up to 40 again.

well the main point is at 40 amps and 116 volts this bike should be screaming over 50...not 35....guess I got some CA settings wrong...THE HIGH SPEED run at 55 was done with crystal display
Use your GPS on your phone to check if correct. If it is then disconnect you CA this way you will know that it's the ca settings. Korpin, Which controller do you have now.
 
pendragon8000 said:
yeah im thinking its a speed swith on the controller Korpin. like if it is suposed to have a 3 speed switch and you dont have one connected it will be in medium speed usually.

that may be perhaps the crystal display overrides the controller but not the CA...HPC is looking at it....it did 35 mph or so on 20 amps with the crystal display
 
korpin said:
pendragon8000 said:
yeah im thinking its a speed swith on the controller Korpin. like if it is suposed to have a 3 speed switch and you dont have one connected it will be in medium speed usually.

that may be perhaps the crystal display overrides the controller but not the CA...HPC is looking at it....it did 35 mph or so on 20 amps with the crystal display
Korpin you still haven't told us what controller you're running
 
its an HPC controller (will take a photo of it when I get bike back)....supposed to handle 100 volts....think they are having problems with their high voltage controllers...I was getting regen showing up on my display for some reason too :shock: ..well its Thursday they STILL have bike....one of the guys over there said to me..."you programmed it wrong" ....which I thought was odd since I programmed it EXACTLY how they said....called back talked to one of the workers he said he was re sodering the controller and re doing battery connections...what does that have to do with programming?
 
well here is the control...crystalyte brand....like crystalyte hub motors not sure about the quality of their displays and controllers....at 30 amps my bike gets close to 50 mph...probably keep it around those amps put less stress on wiring...one thing I love about the cycle analyst is the automatic amp reduction when your battery is nearing low voltage cutoff brilliant!

cyanide....contracts.....concrete shoes.....HIGH VOLTAGE!
 

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