E-S Stealth Electric Bike Owners

[Rix]

Rix,

Mine was a one cable failure where the cable broke inside the gear selector cap down at the V-Boxx.

Shifter may have felt just a bit harder to turn before failure but, other than that, no warning. When it happens you almost immediately loose all you gears and, if you are lucky to stay in a gear, it quickly loses the gear and seems to end up with a position between gears. Can't do anything except power home.

When I examined the cable that broke I found several strands of the wire rope cable were frayed and broken. Looks like the remaining strand(s) just couldn't handle the twist force and failed.

Possible test for you would be to try to hold the pedals in a position to prevent a gear change and then twist twist the shifter harder than normal and see if it breaks. Before doing this loosen the pawl adjusting screw so the twist test loads the shift cables and what you feel with your hand isn't just the pawl moving out of the detent.

Jim

I think I will put the Vboxx in first gear and pop the shifter cover off and inspect it on the next service. Bike shifts fine, no hard twisting required, and I have squirted some Sythetic grease into the pawl hole and then inserted the pawl, spring and screw. With grease in there, my gear selections are very smooth and very precise.

 

[robohead]

Here's a little trailer I made this afternoon... Just having fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_zZw270Y0

It's marked private still buddy.

 

[Rix]

And this is where we come to you Emmett, I want to see your results with oil cooling on the TC3065. Instead of venting, I may just do the the oil cooling based on your findings.

My next project would be oil cooling but then Justin at GRIN came to a solution called ferrofluid, looks like it is much better than oil, it always keeps where it should be, between stator and magnets around the whole motor, and you have no mess!
I will cool my tc3080 with this stuff!
http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/experimental/statorade.html

Sam used some ferrofluid on his motor with excellent results. If I recall correctly, I think he used about 5ml.

 

[Rix]

Stealth squadron reporting for duty:.

Yes, a very nice collection indeed. 8)

 

[Emmett]

And this is where we come to you Emmett, I want to see your results with oil cooling on the TC3065. Instead of venting, I may just do the the oil cooling based on your findings.

My next project would be oil cooling but then Justin at GRIN came to a solution called ferrofluid, looks like it is much better than oil, it always keeps where it should be, between stator and magnets around the whole motor, and you have no mess!
I will cool my tc3080 with this stuff!
http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/experimental/statorade.html

That stuff looks interesting, but there isn't much mess with oil cooling. Castor oil just wipes away and has no smell.

Install sealed bearings, and use a thin layer of black adhesive sikaflex on the side cover flanges and some simple clear silicone around the wire loom in the axle slot. Drill a 0.5mm breather hole near the sprocket, and (for fill/draining) tap some M5 screw plug holes in at 12 and 6 o'clock on the right cover near the magnets (but not too close). Inject 100ml of castor oil, and you're done.

It's a no brainer "must do" mod. I could NOT ride they way I do with a stock motor. After my first week of ownership in Aug 2014 I had to solve the over-heating issues. Venting is not an option in the crap I regularly ride over since even when there has been no rain for weeks, there are many creeks and damp spots. Oil cooling is so much better I don't even need a thermo sensor. Just ride.

 

[one4torque]

Vid un[private_} now.... pardon my lack of e-skillz.... 80's guy out.

 

[Rix]

Here's a little trailer I made this afternoon... Just having fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_zZw270Y0

[youtube]gC_zZw270Y0[/youtube]

Dick Blisken, is that any relation to Snake Plisken? Awesome Awesome video. Nice editing.

 

[one4torque]

RIX.. yup little broh to snake blisken.... escaping NY was a real PITA.... but safe now
Pardon the cheez in the vid.... and don't for a minute think I favor myself as a top tier mtn trailer rider..

thx to all you guys for showing me how much I don't know (yet) about ebikes. My flux build will hopefully reflect some nuggets from you all.

 

[robohead]

Here's a little trailer I made this afternoon... Just having fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_zZw270Y0

[youtube]gC_zZw270Y0[/youtube]

Dick Blisken, is that any relation to Snake Plisken? Awesome Awesome video. Nice editing.

Lol Rix.. Spend much time in NY and LA?

one4torque: You should be able to go to YT and adjust the preview picture so that it highlights an actual stealth ebike.

 

[one4torque]

FIXED. thx robo cop!

 

[robohead]

Anyone know where to get a replacement regen cable+button for a bomber? Mine done broke.

 

[JumperJackFlash]

I use these momentary switches for my regen.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400890232623

 

[robohead]

I use these momentary switches for my regen.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/400890232623

Did that fit into the little default plate? Did you just splice the wires and tie them into that? Did you use anything to cover the exposed contact points?

 

[JumperJackFlash]

I made a new plate because my old plate was fatigued. Then I soldered the old wires onto the new switch and covered the connections with shrink tube and electric tape.

 

[robohead]

I made a new plate because my old plate was fatigued. Then I soldered the old wires onto the new switch and covered the connections with shrink tube and electric tape.

Mind posting a front and back pic? or is that documented somewhere in these 513 pages already? TIA

 

[Cowardlyduck]

///Edit/// Cowardly duck has ran the 3540 3548 H4080 and Leaf. Hey CD, whats your take, is the Leaf more or less than the 3540?

You forgot the HS4065 I also toasted.

The Leaf definitely has more punch than the HS35xx motor's. It also runs noticeable cooler, quieter and smoother. The biggest difference is how well it free-wheels. There is practically no cogging whatsoever compared to the HS35xx and HS40xx motor's which create enough cogging to be annoying when pedalling unpowered at speed or just wanting to coast.

I don't doubt the TC30 motors have more punch though as they have deeper slots for higher copper fill, but doing it that way can be problematic for some controllers like the Adaptto.

Cheers

 

[biknut]

Here's a little trailer I made this afternoon... Just having fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC_zZw270Y0

Zombies. Where are the zombies?

 

[JumperJackFlash]

Robohead,

Do you want my old switch? It still works and has the mounting plate? I just didn't like the plastic feel.

 

[Rix]

RIX.. yup little broh to snake blisken.... escaping NY was a real PITA.... but safe now
Pardon the cheez in the vid.... and don't for a minute think I favor myself as a top tier mtn trailer rider..

thx to all you guys for showing me how much I don't know (yet) about ebikes. My flux build will hopefully reflect some nuggets from you all.

I knew it man. Fuqn solid!

 

[Rix]

Here's a little trailer I made this afternoon... Just having fun.

Dick Blisken, is that any relation to Snake Plisken? Awesome Awesome video. Nice editing.

Lol Rix.. Spend much time in NY and LA?

one4torque: You should be able to go to YT and adjust the preview picture so that it highlights an actual stealth ebike.

Well, my ex wife is from the Bronx, and I go down to LA periodically to see my Mexican Hermano and his familia. Plus I am a movie nut, obviously. I saw Escape from NewYork and Escape from LA in the theater opening weekends.

 

[robohead]

Robohead,

Do you want my old switch? It still works and has the mounting plate? I just didn't like the plastic feel.

Yes

 

[JumperJackFlash]

Robohead,

Here are the pictures of the regen switch.

 

[bigbore]

All this talk of VBoxx finessing and ends "just in case' gets me glancing at my Schlumpf equipped Fighter and grinning at its simplicity. You notice that Rix since you made the switch?

I'm not aware of any bikes outside of Stealth that use the VBoxx - I don't doubt that they exist, but certainly don't see them crop up anywhere, so they'd be a rare beastie.

TV- spot on. "I've never owned a bike this long where I didn't want it to have more power. Not this one. All things considered, it has exactly the right power, and speed." I concur.

Even though I only ride a Fighter. The Bomber never won me over like the Fighter did, but I see that a lot with folks from MTB origins, even though I had a mix of MTB/Moto.

All bikes made by Stealth are great and I care not what other people ride but......

I'll take the other side of that coin I have a Supercross/ motocross background and the fighter just doesn't cut it for me. Not that I "need" to do 55mph but I do want that option (a more powerful bike needs less run up to clear a jump). I guess you could buy a fighter for the break in weight but the current fuel injected 4 strokes are much heavier than the 2 strokes of 15 years ago (and much faster).

The bomber is a decent transition from anyone coming from 65hp dirt machine. Bomber vs fighter is likely similar to 450 vs 250 in dirt bikes. Not to mention companies like Defcon5 and others are apparently making a bike that costs as much as a fighter but outperforms the Bomber easily. If I come to find that the build quality is at the same level of Stealth, then something even quicker may be in my future.

Absolute power corrupts and I can go back now.

Exactly my point of view .... I come from Suzuki DR 350

 

[one4torque]

A little pkg arrived from Aus tonight! New Vboxx. Fast delivery DHL.

I'm back in the game.

 

[1abv]

All this talk of VBoxx finessing and ends "just in case' gets me glancing at my Schlumpf equipped Fighter and grinning at its simplicity. You notice that Rix since you made the switch?

I'm not aware of any bikes outside of Stealth that use the VBoxx - I don't doubt that they exist, but certainly don't see them crop up anywhere, so they'd be a rare beastie.

TV- spot on. "I've never owned a bike this long where I didn't want it to have more power. Not this one. All things considered, it has exactly the right power, and speed." I concur.

Even though I only ride a Fighter. The Bomber never won me over like the Fighter did, but I see that a lot with folks from MTB origins, even though I had a mix of MTB/Moto.

All bikes made by Stealth are great and I care not what other people ride but......

I'll take the other side of that coin I have a Supercross/ motocross background and the fighter just doesn't cut it for me. Not that I "need" to do 55mph but I do want that option (a more powerful bike needs less run up to clear a jump). I guess you could buy a fighter for the break in weight but the current fuel injected 4 strokes are much heavier than the 2 strokes of 15 years ago (and much faster).

The bomber is a decent transition from anyone coming from 65hp dirt machine. Bomber vs fighter is likely similar to 450 vs 250 in dirt bikes. Not to mention companies like Defcon5 and others are apparently making a bike that costs as much as a fighter but outperforms the Bomber easily. If I come to find that the build quality is at the same level of Stealth, then something even quicker may be in my future.

Absolute power corrupts and I can go back now.

Exactly my point of view .... I come from Suzuki DR 350

I love me some stealth bomber action fo sho!!.. for me it will be perfect when the suspension is a good as even my bone stock wr450... I took my wr on the same trails as my bomber.... back to back...oh I shouldn't have done that.. big ass hub motor ..ahh well everything has its place.. but on the other side I ride it more than all of my motorcycles combined....AND the neighbors will never hear it....