Forest Fires 🔥

I wonder how many others would be traceable to arson.

.. or where the trees so dry, they 'exploded' and caused the fires ( We are back in 'that' scientific area now.. or well 9 days to go ).

No wait, I know, the fires happened because people send support to Ukraine 🤣😂🤣
 
Fires are becoming a part of seasonal weather in so many regions... Is it that important to investigate what or who started the fire when the whole area is flammable and it seems inevitable that there will be fires? Seems rather like an excuse for not providing adequate protection/prevention...
 
First of all, seasonal fires aren't a new thing, just the scale is increasing due to weather patterns.

If the whole area if flamable, prevention has already failed. Part of prevention is preventing lunies from starting fires. Seems like a pretty important thing to do.

More important then trying to play the political blame game.

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Seems rather like an excuse for not providing adequate protection/prevention...
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That's like blaming North Carolina for not providing adequate protection/prevention/building codes so people don't suffer during hurricanes.

Fires are a fact of life here. 99% of the time they are managed and don't get out of hand. But when you have a once-in-a-lifetime event, where you get:

-8 months without rain (VERY unusual here)
-A very wet winter the year before
-100 MPH Santa Ana winds (also very unusual)
-Santa Anas in January (also unusual)

there's not much you can do to stop it.

Picture a fire, where a dozen fire trucks respond - but the embers are spreading faster than any fire truck can drive, and the winds are constantly shifting, and most of the fire is in brush covered mountains. There's no practical way to stop that.
 
I guess they'll have to invent the "castable" force-field generator...then use some of those to generate fields around the fire sources and hold them until the oxygen has been used up, and the heat died down enough so that no reignition happens when the oxygen is refreshed after the field is removed.

Not that I'll hold my breath ;) until this gets invented....
 
I still can't get over what we touched upon earlier, when I pointed out how eerie it was when you had entire streets being fine, house after house, and then suddenly in the middle of them a house is entirely gone. If that is really mostly ( next to 'luck'? ) having such a high impact, it should be mandated in the building code for that region.
 
I think it's not unreasonable to expect that buildings suffer some damage in case of fire or some natural disaster. But this should be repairable.
But for America it's like On/Off switch - either your house is intact, or it's just turns into a smoking pile of rubble. Nothing to repair. Same with hurricanes - if one window goes, the entire house is gone.
Or at least it is presented in the news like that, maybe the reality is less dramatic...
 
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I don't know about other disasters, but having lived in northern Texas as a kid and seen tornadoes and the results of their touchdowns (more when visiting Oklahoma than in my area)...I can say that "entire streets being fine, house after house, and then suddenly in the middle of them a house is entirely gone." is more often the opposite of what I saw.

Whole neighborhoods razed down to the slab with stubs of pipes, splintered tree stumps, and a few bits of scattered debris...then one house here, another there, a lone untouched tree here, another ok but for one broken branch, one car still parked in front of the mailbox that's all that remains of the entire neighborhood that lies in piles of kindling all around....

Two identical trailers parked next to each other as permanent homes for decades, surrounded by empty fields, a few trees here and there, before the storm, then afterward there's still one battered but livable trailer, and the other is simply gone...picked up and then smashed down up to miles away.

Stuff like that.


And this:
"If that is really mostly ( next to 'luck'? ) having such a high impact, it should be mandated in the building code for that region."
helps, but the problem is finding out *why* the things that survived did so. It's not always obvious, and it isn't always because of the way they were bulit--it can be because of the way the winds flowed thru and between other buildings in the area, or the debris the tornado had already picked up and used as battering rams against them, and that one building might've been shielded from those by the surrounding ones just long enough to miss the worst winds and worst debris, before those others were smashed and blown away.
 
We had a volunteer fire department in town square of the tiny town I lived nearby in rural Texas as a kid.

It burned down while they were out at another fire.

IIRC they thought it was arson.
 
Around 80% of the firefighters in my country are volunteers.

The bad thing about it is the burocracy tho. We had people who really wanted to react to hearth attack allerts using their faster, smaller car as opposed to the full fire engine... BUT THEY GOT DENIED BECAUSE IT WOULD 'LOOK BAD' and 'it didn't matter much if they were a bit slower'....

Yeah we had people threatening to quit over it... but to this day, the 'rule' still is they have to use the fire engine. Because 'maybe someone would need assistance otherwise which could only be given using equipment on the big fire truck'.

While all our medical experts have tried to convince them that heart attack response is all about minimizing time it takes responders to get there.
 
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