Takemehome
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It's worse than you think guys.
I coughed in front of my computer and the antivirus started.
I coughed in front of my computer and the antivirus started.
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goatman
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sorry scooterman, thought I was in a different thread, oh wait its not your thread its formula 101s thread. good one takemehome, made me laugh.
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:lol:Takemehome said:
That is a good laugh in a time of crisis
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https://www.npr.org/2020/03/17/816501871/poll-as-coronavirus-spreads-fewer-americans-see-pandemic-as-a-real-threat
Interesting survey. Majority of republicans think shittybeervirus is blown out of proportion. Only 20% of democrats think so.
Democrats are far more likely to change travel plans, avoid large crowds and eat at home due to the perceived threat.
In other words, democrats are far more afraid. Of everything. And everyone.
It's very easy to guess what a person's political affiliation is based upon their reaction to shittybeer. Democrats react with fear, republicans with courage and realism.
Not surprisingly, shelter in place orders are met with almost no resistance on the left and least coasts, dominated by dumb liberals who actually think a communist nanny state is good for them. Hell, they've been FIGHTING for a communist state for the better part of 80+ years, so no reason to believe they actually WANT freedom.
Interesting survey. Majority of republicans think shittybeervirus is blown out of proportion. Only 20% of democrats think so.
Democrats are far more likely to change travel plans, avoid large crowds and eat at home due to the perceived threat.
In other words, democrats are far more afraid. Of everything. And everyone.
It's very easy to guess what a person's political affiliation is based upon their reaction to shittybeer. Democrats react with fear, republicans with courage and realism.
Not surprisingly, shelter in place orders are met with almost no resistance on the left and least coasts, dominated by dumb liberals who actually think a communist nanny state is good for them. Hell, they've been FIGHTING for a communist state for the better part of 80+ years, so no reason to believe they actually WANT freedom.
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goatman said:
The problem for liberals is that I post and analyze information objectively. This is extremely threatening to left wingers who believe everything they're told by the communist controlled left wing media.
Look at punxor's posts for example: he never posts any information. All he does is bait, troll, and name call. Whenever he attempts to analyze information, he does so poorly, mis-interpreting facts or missing critical pieces of information.
I don't identify as a republican or conservative either, most of whom are christian, which is another mind control mythology, just like shittybeer virus.
The key is to be able to assess evidence as scientifically and objectively as possible. Most people are either too lazy or too stupid to do their own research apparently. It's really sad to see.
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https://abc30.com/6024865/
City of Fresno issues emergency "shelter in place" order starting midnight Thursday amid COVID-19 concerns
Bastards.
City of Fresno issues emergency "shelter in place" order starting midnight Thursday amid COVID-19 concerns
Bastards.
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DO NOT CLICK ON THIS LINK IF YOU ARE A NORMIE. If you don't know what a normie is, then you are a normie.
This does not constitute proof, but for those who are interested in numerology, there is some evidence that as I have suggested all along, that shittybeer is a conspiracy and royal mindfuck. There is some evidence that this is all a conspiracy of 33rd degree freemasons. (33rd degree freemasons are the highest level of initiates in the freemason order).
All of the evidence I have seen suggests that minus co-factors such as extremely high levels of smoking or extremely high levels of industrial pollution, the death rate in genpop is well below 1%. Perhaps a bit higher than for the regular flu, but far below the 3.4% estimate which is circulating as "truth."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsbOX4RZk_0
This does not constitute proof, but for those who are interested in numerology, there is some evidence that as I have suggested all along, that shittybeer is a conspiracy and royal mindfuck. There is some evidence that this is all a conspiracy of 33rd degree freemasons. (33rd degree freemasons are the highest level of initiates in the freemason order).
All of the evidence I have seen suggests that minus co-factors such as extremely high levels of smoking or extremely high levels of industrial pollution, the death rate in genpop is well below 1%. Perhaps a bit higher than for the regular flu, but far below the 3.4% estimate which is circulating as "truth."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsbOX4RZk_0
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According to the New England Journal of Medicine, the fatality rate for shittybeer in China is only 1.4%, rather than the reported 3.5% being pimped out by scum rags such as the New York Times. Factor in the rates of smoking and industrial air pollution and environmental waste and it's likely far lower.
More evidence that shittybeer is a massive psyop.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
More evidence that shittybeer is a massive psyop.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032
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Italy: 20K deaths per winter from the flu, only 3K due to shittybeer. Yes, shittybeer is a problem, but nowhere near the threat of the regular flu. Influenza. Please, take your shitty scare tactics elsewhere.
Italy's elderly population is approximately 23% as of 2020. The US by comparison is 16%. Second, Italy has traditionally had stronger family ties so close and frequent contact between elderly and younger generation is normal in Italy but comparatively rare in protestant/individualistic cultures like the US or England for example.
There also appears to be stronger integration between rural and urban towns with frequent intercourse between the two, again, unlike societies such as the US with weaker generational ties and higher rural/urban cultural and physical segregation.
Death rates vary considerably: 1.4% in China, 0.8% in South Korea, 0.8% in the cruise ship case study in the USA, even with a disproportionately elderly population. Italy's fatality rate is a staggering 8%. This could very well be explained by higher levels of social integration discussed, but it is still far below SARS or especially Ebola for example. Neither virus, while far deadlier warranted the quarantining measures for shittybeer which are unprecedented.
Having said that, it's important to put these numbers into perspective. The total number of influenza flu deaths annually in Italy is approaching TWENTY THOUSAND PER WINTER. Therefore, 3K deaths for shittybeer, while regrettable, is actually a rather small percentage of the deaths attributable to viruses overall.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-south-korea-compared-to-flu-2020-3
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3
https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-coronavirus-hit-italy-so-hard/
https://www.2oceansvibe.com/2020/03/11/how-many-people-die-annually-from-flu-in-italy/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
Italy's elderly population is approximately 23% as of 2020. The US by comparison is 16%. Second, Italy has traditionally had stronger family ties so close and frequent contact between elderly and younger generation is normal in Italy but comparatively rare in protestant/individualistic cultures like the US or England for example.
There also appears to be stronger integration between rural and urban towns with frequent intercourse between the two, again, unlike societies such as the US with weaker generational ties and higher rural/urban cultural and physical segregation.
Death rates vary considerably: 1.4% in China, 0.8% in South Korea, 0.8% in the cruise ship case study in the USA, even with a disproportionately elderly population. Italy's fatality rate is a staggering 8%. This could very well be explained by higher levels of social integration discussed, but it is still far below SARS or especially Ebola for example. Neither virus, while far deadlier warranted the quarantining measures for shittybeer which are unprecedented.
Having said that, it's important to put these numbers into perspective. The total number of influenza flu deaths annually in Italy is approaching TWENTY THOUSAND PER WINTER. Therefore, 3K deaths for shittybeer, while regrettable, is actually a rather small percentage of the deaths attributable to viruses overall.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-death-rate-south-korea-compared-to-flu-2020-3
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-compared-to-flu-mortality-rates-2020-3
https://www.wired.com/story/why-the-coronavirus-hit-italy-so-hard/
https://www.2oceansvibe.com/2020/03/11/how-many-people-die-annually-from-flu-in-italy/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
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Also, Italy has a very old population. Believe it or not, old people die at a higher rate than young people.
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Baltimore's residents are killing each other at such a high rate they don't have enough beds to treat shittybeer patients. With a staggering homicide rate of 51/100,000, Baltimore if it were classified as a country, would have the fourth highest homicide rate on the planet, trailing only El Salvador (62), Jamaica (57) and Venezuela (56).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://www.rt.com/usa/483463-baltimore-mayor-shooting-coronavirus/
Leave hospital beds for coronavirus patients!’ Baltimore mayor kindly asks residents to stop shooting each other
Baltimore’s mayor has called on the city’s inhabitants to refrain from killing one another for the time being, asking them not to “clog up” hospital beds as the coronavirus pandemic spreads far and wide across the country.
“I want to reiterate how completely unacceptable the level of violence is that we have seen recently,” Mayor Jack Young said at a press conference on Wednesday, adding, “For those of you who want to continue to shoot and kill people of this city, we’re not going to tolerate it. We’re going to come after you and we’re going to get you.”
We cannot clog up our hospitals, or their beds, with people who are being shot senselessly, because we’re going to need those beds for people who might be infected with the coronavirus.
The call to action – or inaction, rather – came after a police-involved shooting in Baltimore’s Madison Park neighborhood on Tuesday night that put at least seven people in the hospital, all believed to be in stable condition. Police say it’s not clear if the officer shot any of the wounded individuals himself, but did confirm that he discharged his weapon after encountering a man firing what they called a “semi-automatic long gun” into a crowd.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
https://www.rt.com/usa/483463-baltimore-mayor-shooting-coronavirus/
Leave hospital beds for coronavirus patients!’ Baltimore mayor kindly asks residents to stop shooting each other
Baltimore’s mayor has called on the city’s inhabitants to refrain from killing one another for the time being, asking them not to “clog up” hospital beds as the coronavirus pandemic spreads far and wide across the country.
“I want to reiterate how completely unacceptable the level of violence is that we have seen recently,” Mayor Jack Young said at a press conference on Wednesday, adding, “For those of you who want to continue to shoot and kill people of this city, we’re not going to tolerate it. We’re going to come after you and we’re going to get you.”
We cannot clog up our hospitals, or their beds, with people who are being shot senselessly, because we’re going to need those beds for people who might be infected with the coronavirus.
The call to action – or inaction, rather – came after a police-involved shooting in Baltimore’s Madison Park neighborhood on Tuesday night that put at least seven people in the hospital, all believed to be in stable condition. Police say it’s not clear if the officer shot any of the wounded individuals himself, but did confirm that he discharged his weapon after encountering a man firing what they called a “semi-automatic long gun” into a crowd.
torker
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Covid is not the flu. It is a novel virus
We have no immunity. It has mutated twice already. It is scarring the lungs of young people. 25+ cases in Ks.
We have no immunity. It has mutated twice already. It is scarring the lungs of young people. 25+ cases in Ks.
goatman
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for me, what formula is saying seems to make sense. if everyone with covid isn't being tested then the death rate is wrong.
its pretty basic.
whos being tested?
the very sick that need urgent medical attention
whos dying of covid?
well you had to have been tested to know you have it.
so a tiny group of people from the general population
take Vancouver bc,population 2.5 million, our borders have been wide open til yesterday, we have a skytrain that goes to the international airport and probably has 100,000 riders a day crammed like sardines going to work and back home. that should be a super spreader but we have 230 cases in the entire province, maybe the cases will jump through the roof
take Richmond bc, population 200,000, 100,000 are Chinese and the vancouver international airport is located there. if you go shopping, its very Chinese, you would think Richmond would be getting hammered with covid but nothing on the news about Richmond.
look at those numbers, how can you make the curve any flatter?
test everyone
I understand a 30 day shutdown/slowdown just because its unknown but when youre hearing 3,6,12, and 18 months. people will only take so much unless they actually know someone that's died.
wait and see what the numbers do I guess.
its pretty basic.
whos being tested?
the very sick that need urgent medical attention
whos dying of covid?
well you had to have been tested to know you have it.
so a tiny group of people from the general population
take Vancouver bc,population 2.5 million, our borders have been wide open til yesterday, we have a skytrain that goes to the international airport and probably has 100,000 riders a day crammed like sardines going to work and back home. that should be a super spreader but we have 230 cases in the entire province, maybe the cases will jump through the roof
take Richmond bc, population 200,000, 100,000 are Chinese and the vancouver international airport is located there. if you go shopping, its very Chinese, you would think Richmond would be getting hammered with covid but nothing on the news about Richmond.
look at those numbers, how can you make the curve any flatter?
test everyone
I understand a 30 day shutdown/slowdown just because its unknown but when youre hearing 3,6,12, and 18 months. people will only take so much unless they actually know someone that's died.
wait and see what the numbers do I guess.
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I tend to agree. If the exposure rate is presumed to be far far higher than reported but the actual death rate is presumably fairly accurate then the percentages they're throwing around are literally worthless. What is claimed to be a 3% mortality rate might actually be .003%.
Keeping transit running seems absolutely insane under the circumstances, especially considering Translink's "wipe it once a day" action plan. I can see the track from my house and I watch those mostly empty trains going back and forth all day and night. It's as unnerving as anything because it makes no sense. An hour ride in an enclosed tin can, just what every pandemic needs. They're keeping them running because to stop them would validate people's panic, I can only assume. Everything is fine, nothing to see here.
As for Richmond, blame our "offend no one under any circumstance" culture of late. To shine a light on Richmond would be perceived as racist, and my god anything but that! The same reason that the only stories out of Burnaby were about how terrible the "rumors" about the Crystal Mall were and how badly it was effecting those poor poor retailers. Nevermind that it would be obvious to literally anyone that a mall frequented almost exclusively by Chinese people might be a cause for a bit of concern. No sir, everyone head on down, because not racist no matter what. Not that I'm pointing fingers or placing blame on Chinese people, I'm pointing fingers on the "woke to the point of disinformation" media. When I said I hate-watched Global every morning I was not joking.
Gonna out myself here a bit, but I took a month long tolerance break from Cannabis which I broke yesterday with a sizable dab of live resin. Suddenly everything seemed to come into perspective. Though I had/have little fear of this thing actually causing me, my wife, or my kid harm the realities of this whole situation were and are absolutely terrifying. Not just because of the illness and death, but because overnight the free world essentially had their freedom liberated from them "for their own good". Also the fact that Formula over here, while making some pretty dramatic statements, doesn't come off like your typical uneducated crackpot conspiracy theorist and instead is backing every conclusion he makes with a reference. Now that doesn't necessarily make him right, but if you stop and consider any of it for longer than it takes to hit reply and dismiss him... well, frankly you should be scared. And I don't tend to scare easily.
Worldwide stats
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Actual case numbers likely average at least 10x,
in high per-capita testing regimes like S. Korea maybe double,
in low per-capita testing regimes like the US maybe 20-50x
In my county cases are currently doubling every 2-3 days.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Actual case numbers likely average at least 10x,
in high per-capita testing regimes like S. Korea maybe double,
in low per-capita testing regimes like the US maybe 20-50x
In my county cases are currently doubling every 2-3 days.
Ribiero
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I've heard some pretty convincing statements indicating that this was not man-made. Even if you accept that as fact, the reality is that we don't really know for sure if this was the result of people simply harvesting infected animals for resale or if it was actually something being researched in that lab that managed to make it's way out. We likely never will.
I initially drew my conclusions based on comments from a few actual Chinese nationals who chose to speak with candor, as well as a Korean broadcast which suggested that the lab and market were much closer than they actually were. They said 280 meters. It was a bit further, but not out of the realm of possibility.
I initially drew my conclusions based on comments from a few actual Chinese nationals who chose to speak with candor, as well as a Korean broadcast which suggested that the lab and market were much closer than they actually were. They said 280 meters. It was a bit further, but not out of the realm of possibility.
goatman
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how can America hold china liable for a virus from a bat in a food market, guess we will find out
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I don't think they will, even if they knew with 100% certainty. Like it or not, we gave them nearly 100% of our manufacturing. Cut that link and we crash and burn. We're in bed with an enemy government. Probably why all 3 things I ordered from China within the past week have shipped and are in transit, but don't leave your house.
To the lab idea, every established country has research facilities that deal with this stuff. Just think of the antivaxxer movement. If the official report even suggested that it might have possibly been a lab accident you'd have a stunning number of people screaming for them to be shut down and research would grind to a halt, to the detriment of us all.
markz
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You China has the world by the balls right.
Not only is literally EVERYTHING made in China
But China owns literally EVERYTHING in the ENTIRE world.
It is China's master plan.
Not only is literally EVERYTHING made in China
But China owns literally EVERYTHING in the ENTIRE world.
It is China's master plan.
The animal origins are near certain, from its genetic markers
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554776
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554776
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/03/200317175442.htm
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/17/covid-19-coronavirus-did-not-come-from-a-lab-study-shows-natural-origins
What All The Countries That Contained Coronavirus Have In Common
Some states are equipped to handle the coronavirus crisis, and some are not — and it has little to do with development status.
https://qz.com/1819911/how-countries-are-successfully-containing-coronavirus/
Some states are equipped to handle the coronavirus crisis, and some are not — and it has little to do with development status.
https://qz.com/1819911/how-countries-are-successfully-containing-coronavirus/
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