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The reality is that the number of cases and deaths are a tiny fraction of regular flu cases and deaths. As of today, there are still only 150 deaths in the US, compared to FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND deaths from the regular flu.

The regular flu infects tens of millions of Americans every year and kills tens of thousands every year, yet no implementation of martial law until a virus that has only killed 150 vs the ONE MILLION in the past 25 years.

But yes, it is informative that liberals and communists continue to wish ill will on those who speak the truth. It speaks to their devilish nature. But karma returns it back on them. Tell us how that works out for you.

jonescg said:
formula101 said:
As I have stated before, all of these preventative measures will only worsen health problems in the long run:

1. shelter in place: reduces exercise, leads to weight gain, leads to heart disease, leads to joint deterioration, osteoporosis.

2. SIP2: no sunlight, leads to Fit D deficiency, leads to compromised immune system, leads to more flu deaths and illnesses overall

3. SIP3: staying indoors means breathing dirtier air, more respiratory problems, more flu, more deaths.

4. SIP4: leads to social isolation, loneliness, depression, weakened immune system, more illnesses, more deaths.

5. social distancing in public: leads to fear, isolation, increases stress, weakens immune system.

6. SIP5: increases reliance on social and mass media dominated by big tech, media monopolies: increases fear, stress reaction weakens immune system

Therefore, when budlightanothershittybeervirus hits in 2021 or 2022 our health and immune systems will be even more compromised!

Gotta say, that's a really convenient position to have taken. What you are suggesting is that the virus won't harm folks, it's the response to it. And then when thousands suffer, you can still say you were right.
Pretty ghoulish position to take if you ask me. Do us a favour - go and contract 'shittybeervirus' and get yourself immune to this mere common cold you claim it to be. Report back to us on how it all pans out.

Anyway, on topic...

I still need to get some copper buslinks made for the iMiEV battery upgrade. It's got 60 Ah NMC prismatic cells in place of the original 50 Ah cells. But the whole pack will be markedly lighter.
 
The numbers everywhere demonstrate clearly that the regular flu is far more deadly than shittybeer.

It's already pretty messy because 90%+ of people are too stupid to figure out the truth even when major news outlets like Bloomberg and ABC tell you the truth.

jonescg said:
We are already rationing who goes to hospital and who doesn't. Right now you practically have to die before they'll waste a swab test on you. Panic is hard to avoid now that our authorities sat on their hands for so long, fearful of not getting the perfect response.

It will get pretty messy fairly soon. All I can suggest at this stage is stay away from the elderly and the immunocompromised.
 
DogDipstick said:
jonescg said:
Anyway, on topic...

I still need to get some copper buslinks made for the iMiEV battery upgrade. It's got 60 Ah NMC prismatic cells in place of the original 50 Ah cells. But the whole pack will be markedly lighter.

Copper is so much fun.

Dont you guys have something like Emachineshop or the like where you can just draw and order anything and it will be there in a week, choice of 100 materials or 1000 operations, if you got the money, shipped? No? Yeah? Huh.

Governer Wolfe ( Pa governor, ) just shut down the whole state... about 80% of all businesses. Its kinda crazy. No construction, No retail, No professional services, real estate transactions, financial activities. Half the mining. Leisure, hospitality, education. Nothing.

Crazy. No need for a shelter in place order, there's nowhere to go.

HK12K said:
markz said:
Ideally I would like a range of 50km of battery, which is the last time I went fishing, a few days ago, I kept getting what looks like toilet paper.
:shock:
That sauteed squirrel is sounding better and better.

It's literally the Hunger Games. I just thought it was a shitty movie I could ignore. Now it's coming true.
 
Apparently Italy has passed China, or will shortly?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-confirmed-cases-since-100th-case
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thanks for the stats on Italy, sounds like as long as youre healthy you should be fine, even if youre old
Italy doesn't sound bad at all anymore.

most of british columbias deaths are in the care homes for the elderly,

Seattles big initial scare was in the senior center, im not really following Seattle but I did see theyre converting a soccer field into a massive hospital Tent that will be open next week.

I thought Italy was an obese country but its actually one of the slimmest countries in Europe except for the 2 year olds, 42% of 2 year olds are obese,

40% of americans are obese and buy more medication per person than any other country, any stats on the American deaths yet?
 
I have already debunked John 61 from CT's claims that Italy has skyrocketing death rates from shittybeer. As I have already demonstrated on three separate occasions, it is impossible to say exactly what killed the people which Italy's government claims are dying from shittybeer.

All we know is that the people being counted as shittybeer deaths are 1) extremely old (80 years old on average), and 2) were extremely ill from multiple other illnesses and ailments, including heart disease, hypertension, among many other ailments.

Bloomberg and ABC both report about the high number of confounding factors making it impossible to conclusively claim these deaths are due to shittybeer.

Adding to the suspiciousness of the data is how much of an outlier their death rate is: a staggering 8.3%, or so it is claimed. In South Korea, the death rate is 0.8%. In China, 1.4%. Even on the princess cruise with a median age likely 65 or older, the death rate was only 0.8%. This strongly suggests the Italian data is corrupted by political influence and cannot readily be trusted. So much so that even extreme left wing media like ABC and Bloomberg don't really believe the numbers.

The Italian data is almost certainly fake news.

john61ct said:
Apparently Italy has passed China, or will shortly?

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-confirmed-cases-since-100th-case
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markz said:
https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2020/health/coronavirus-maps-and-cases/

cnn lol
 
goatman said:
thanks for the stats on Italy, sounds like as long as youre healthy you should be fine, even if youre old
Italy doesn't sound bad at all anymore.

most of british columbias deaths are in the care homes for the elderly,

Seattles big initial scare was in the senior center, im not really following Seattle but I did see theyre converting a soccer field into a massive hospital Tent that will be open next week.

I thought Italy was an obese country but its actually one of the slimmest countries in Europe except for the 2 year olds, 42% of 2 year olds are obese,

40% of americans are obese and buy more medication per person than any other country, any stats on the American deaths yet?

What's interesting is how the obesity stat is being presented. In years, past CDC reported on both the percentage of people who were overweight (BMI 25 to 30) AND obese (BMI over 30). Now, in all the reports I've seen this year, CDC is only reporting the obesity statistic and omitting the stat on those overweight. The reality is, 70% of Americans are overweight or obese.

For example, the average adult woman in the US is 5'3" and 170 lbs. She has an average waist size of 39 inches!

But what's interesting is what you've noted which is how remarkably targeted shittybeer is; it seems to attack the very old 70+ and especially 80+ with ferocity, while leaving children and teens literally untouched.

But to answer your question, there are currently 150 deaths from shittybeer in the US. The panic is hard to explain considering the fact that influenza deaths are over 50,000 in the US without any panic whatsoever.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-in-us.html

john61ct said:
here you go https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

WRONG. Fake news. Correct data from CDC posted above.

The worldometer is inflated by more than 40%. This just goes to show you how fake that "source" really is.
 
And yet you have no sources which actually

Notice how not a single person can actually refute my evidence and arguments. All they have left is name-calling.

I am happy that these are embarrassing themselves for posterity.

jonescg said:
I won't engage with your deliberate trolling any further Mr Formula101. It is dangerous, and folks would do well to ignore you.
 
That means more accurate.

If we were testing at a better per capita rate like S. Korea would probably be well over 50K just in the US.

And last I checked last 12 mo influenza deaths in the US was under 17,000.

We'll be passing that inside two weeks
 
It's not spread across the "whole year." It's concentrated in three winter months. More disinfo fail.

That's 51 MILLION cases of the flu just this winter alone. How are just 13,000 cases going to "overwhelm" the health care system when the US health care system has handled 51 MILLION with no problems? Just stop with your bullshit. Convenient that you are dropping out of the debate when you have nothing to offer but disinfo and name calling. Who's the troll now? :D

Also, the notion that Italy's health care system will collapse due to shittybeer is 100% FAKE NEWS! ITALY HAS HAD 2 MILLION CASES OF FLU THIS WINTER ALONE! They averaged SEVENTEEN THOUSAND FLU DEATHS A YEAR FROM 2013 TO 2017.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR 40,000 SHITTYBEER CASES TO "OVERWHELM" THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM WHEN ITALY HANDLED 2 MILLION FLU CASES IN THE SAME WINTER! FAKE NEWS 100%

It's so easy and so much fun to debunk your fake disinfo bullshit. :D

For your own sake, learn how to read:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

https://www.2oceansvibe.com/2020/03/11/how-many-people-die-annually-from-flu-in-italy/

jonescg said:
Re: Flu - yes it contributes to mortality in the elderly at a rate of ~34,000 per year in the USA. Spread across the whole year, the hospitals can keep up.
If badly managed, like say Italy, COV-19 is causing currently mortality at a rate of 3,400 per month. Spread across a single month, hospitals simply cannot keep up. Any preventable death is one too many, especially when it's easily prevented.

I won't engage with your deliberate trolling any further Mr Formula101. It is dangerous, and folks would do well to ignore you.
 
formula101 said:
As I have stated before, all of these preventative measures will only worsen health problems in the long run:

1. shelter in place: reduces exercise, leads to weight gain, leads to heart disease, leads to joint deterioration, osteoporosis.

2. SIP2: no sunlight, leads to Fit D deficiency, leads to compromised immune system, leads to more flu deaths and illnesses overall

3. SIP3: staying indoors means breathing dirtier air, more respiratory problems, more flu, more deaths.

4. SIP4: leads to social isolation, loneliness, depression, weakened immune system, more illnesses, more deaths.

5. social distancing in public: leads to fear, isolation, increases stress, weakens immune system.

6. SIP5: increases reliance on social and mass media dominated by big tech, media monopolies: increases fear, stress reaction weakens immune system

Therefore, when budlightanothershittybeervirus hits in 2021 or 2022 our health and immune systems will be even more compromised!
Thank you doctor [emoji1788] I concur


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john61ct said:
That means more accurate.

If we were testing at a better per capita rate like S. Korea would probably be well over 50K just in the US.

And last I checked last 12 mo influenza deaths in the US was under 17,000.

We'll be passing that inside two weeks

Wrong again:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
 
Here Goatman,

Each day click on the Refresh Icon on your browser to see the current numbers .

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fcoronavirus%2F2019-ncov%2Fcases-in-us.html



goatman said:
40% of americans are obese and buy more medication per person than any other country, any stats on the American deaths yet?
 
The numbers each year change , From 15,xxx one year to 47,xxx another year
and any anything in between .
So
You will have different people say different numbers for death's from the Flu .

Each person being Right , depending on which year they are Quoting .




john61ct said:
And last I checked last 12 mo influenza deaths in the US was under 17,000.
 
Sepsis plays a big role in many death's ,

" Each year, at least 1.7 million adults in America develop sepsis.

Nearly 270,000 Americans die as a result of sepsis.

1 in 3 patients who die in a hospital have sepsis. "



formula101 said:
With essentially 100% of cases tested being old and sickly, it's not clear what killed them. It could be heart disease. It could be hypertension. It could be flu. It could be a combination of factors. These are called confounds and you are making huge assumptions without any autopsy evidence for these cases, and there are hundreds.
 
markz said:
formula are you just staying online all day long?

formula101 said:
And yet you continue to read and post in the shittybeer threads yourself. Cry victim much?

Who's crying victim? Besides the one getting upset and ringing out that I hit the nail on the head?

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ScooterMan101 said:
The numbers each year change , From 15,xxx one year to 47,xxx another year
and any anything in between .
So
You will have different people say different numbers for death's from the Flu .

Each person being Right , depending on which year they are Quoting .


john61ct said:
And last I checked last 12 mo influenza deaths in the US was under 17,000.
I assume the CDCP are a reliable source ?..
In the U.S. alone, the flu has caused an estimated 36 million illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations and 22,000 deaths this season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html
And in 2017/18 the figure was 61,000 deaths
 
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