Freewheel crank resources

[MitchJi]

Hi,

Hi all.

im in the process of replacing / upgrading the freewheel crank setup on my cyclone powered MTB.
can someone PLEASE point me in the direction of a cheap source for the white ind 22T freewheel ?

the bets price i have seen so far is $130 AU not including shipping !
that seems a little much to me ?

i can get all the other parts locally cheap enough, just the FW seems excessively expensive.

Jason.

This is the best price I found online:
http://www.bikeman.com/WIND-FWENO22.html

Code: WIND-FWENO22
Price: $69.95
Manufacturer: White Industries
Model: White Industries ENO
Size: 22 tooth

That is about $107 AU plus shipping. Its not going to be a big saving (if any) over your $130 but it might be worth getting a quote including shipping.

 

[Diamondback]

Thanks guys.

i think i will just end up buying local.
the savings (what little they are) are not worth the effort.

it will cost me $135 delivered from the aus distributor.


on a related note, is there an alternative to using the standard cyclone cranks ?
(with the WI 22T freewheel)

Jason.

 

[MitchJi]

Hi Jason,

on a related note, is there an alternative to using the standard cyclone cranks ?
(with the WI 22T freewheel)

Jason.

From previous posts in this thread:
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=7641&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=225#p120325

Here's another IPS crankset, which is a bit less expensive. It also uses a standard 16T BMX freewheel, so you could actually replace this with a higher-quality ENO version.

http://www.bikepartsusa.com/bikepar...-System,-39x1.75,-Front,-Crank&category=crank

I used the stoker version of the IPS on my Giant. The standard shimano freewheel wore out really quicky and needed frequent repacking with grease. Went for a white eno and haven't had a problem since. Did need to get the IPS machined out 1mm in all directions to get it to fit though...

 

[Diamondback]

thanks Mitch.

i had seen that.
i guess i should have been more specific.

what i meant was, is there another crank that will screw onto the WI freewheel, like the cyclone ones do ?
that way, im not limited to the silver color, and the 170mm length of the stock cyclone ones.

Jason.

 

[Miles]

what i meant was, is there another crank that will screw onto the WI freewheel, like the cyclone ones do ?
that way, im not limited to the silver color, and the 170mm length of the stock cyclone ones.

Jason.

http://www.tartybikes.co.uk/search.php?category_id=11

 

[Diamondback]

Thanks heaps Miles.

Jason.

 

[DeathBlade]

I was digging around the net looking for parts and found 'sickbikeparts' as a dicta front freewheel and trials cranks for cheap. No idea on the quality though.

http://www.sickbikeparts.com/Products/Freewheel.html
http://www.sickbikeparts.com/Products/Cranks.html

 

[HAL9000v2.0]

I was digging around the net looking for parts and found 'sickbikeparts' as a dicta front freewheel and trials cranks for cheap. No idea on the quality though.

http://www.sickbikeparts.com/Products/Freewheel.html
http://www.sickbikeparts.com/Products/Cranks.html

few days ago I have ordered these parts. 70$ Shipped to Croatia...i'll let you know about the quality...

 

[DeathBlade]

This just in!!! sickbikes now has these heavy duty free wheels from White industries for $64

http://sickbikeparts.com/catalog/produc ... ucts_id=62

I am now seriously temped to buy one just for the hell of it.

Also the dicta freewheel has gone down in price a few bucks.

http://sickbikeparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=34

 

[Miles]

DeathBlade

There's a bug in the forum software - if you edit your post, existing truncated links are broken....

Thanks for pointing out the new ENO part - looks to be just what we need

http://sickbikeparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=62

 

[MitchJi]

Hi,

Just got this from Sick Bikes Tech Support:

Mitch,
As far as I know the internals are the same as the ENO FW, at least that is what we were told, I actually have one each so I could take them apart to verify but I am pretty sure they are the same.

The FW removal tool does work with both the standard FW and the White FW.

This is the link for the tool ($5.95):
http://sickbikeparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=64

 

[GGoodrum]

Wow, this looks like it would be a drop-in replacement for the cheap freewheel that came on my Cyclone 1000W crankset. In fact, this is a great find, just perfect for what we're trying to do here with crank-driven setups.

-- Gary

 

[recumpence]

I installed my Echo FW cranks yesterday. I like them. However, the threads are not perfectly square on the crank arm. When rotating the cranks backward, the sprocket wobbles about 3 or 4mm (wobbling like a wheel out of true). It is not obtrusive, but looks weird on a $3000 bike.

Anyone else have this issue?

Matt

 

[Miles]

Matt,

That seems a lot....

Mine has about 1mm run-out on the periphery of a 54t sprocket.

 

[recumpence]

I know. It kind of ticks me off. Mine is at least 3mm at the edge of my 52 tooth sprocket.

Matt

 

[deecanio]

Hi Matt,

mine seems ok but i only have the eno on the cranks as is, i'll ask bob to see what it's like once the chainrings are attached.
Any chance of having replacements sent from tarty??

Cheers,

D

 

[boostjuice]

I installed my Echo FW cranks yesterday. I like them. However, the threads are not perfectly square on the crank arm. When rotating the cranks backward, the sprocket wobbles about 3 or 4mm (wobbling like a wheel out of true). It is not obtrusive, but looks weird on a $3000 bike.

Anyone else have this issue?

Matt

Ive got the cheaper cast echo cranks and have that exact same problem (about 3mm wobble on a 55t chainring radius). It seems unusual that a product with such a nice finish would have this poor tolerance.

 

[boostjuice]

For those wondering, the 5 hole BCD on these made-to-spec chainring HD freewheels matches the BCD of the radial weight saving slots on the ENO22t freewheel. So for those wanting to swap out their ENO22t versions with a toothless/prettier and equally strong equivelant, it should be a straight forward swap. This was confirmed by Jim at sickbikeparts.com

To quote Jim; "The hub radius is 1.06 inches or a 2.12 diameter. The hole spacing is about
1.33 radius or 2.66 diameter in a 5 bolt pattern."

However the freewheel contains 3 pawls the same as the ENO22t version, so for those thinking it may have the stronger guts like the 6 pawl ENO16t trials freewheel (as i was), you will be disappointed.

6 pawl ENO 16t trials freewheel

 

[Miles]

Boostjuice,

As I understand it, the 16t trials version has 2 groups of 3 pawls, offset - so, more potential engagement points, but no stronger.

 

[gwhy!]

the more engagement points there are the less likely it is going to fail in this application because the pawls are not taking so much of a hammering when throttling up.

 

[Miles]

If the 2 pawl sets are offset, you get more potential engagement points, but only one set (of 3 pawls) engaged, at a time.

"6 pawls mechanism where 3 pawls engage at a time on the 36 possible points, which gives you a total of 72 point engagements."
http://www.trials-uk.co.uk/product.aspx?productid=408

The idea is to have less take-up motion for trials use, I guess.......

Do you mean: "less lost motion = less chance of failure from shock loads" , gwhy?

 

[gwhy!]

Do you mean: "less lost motion = less chance of failure from shock loads" , gwhy?

Yes thats what I was getting at..

 

[Miles]

It's a good point

 

[Boby]

http://www.bimoto.pl/index.php?s=34&l=en

Something like eLation but more sophisticated (as I was told). Two freewheels inside. If you are pedalling the motor chain does not move (lower drag). It was originally designed for Honda engines. Now it works with Cyclone motors. Looks OK.

 

[OzzyU812]

sorry, if this ones already mentioned. I didn't want to spent an hour going thought 19 pages.

http://sickbikeparts.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=e187c22ed389cbc70ac97221e870fe84

There's alot of wild stuff in this thread!