Health Insurance in the USA

I'm middle class and my health care premiums went down last year under ACA and are staying about the same this year (up less than 1% anyway). Before that, they were going up like 10% every year. So, no complaints from this middle classer so far, and I do not feel like I am subsidizing anyone. Although, I do agree with Chalo that a single payer system like Medicare for everyone would be far more efficient and cheaper.
 
jimw1960 said:
I'm middle class and my health care premiums went down last year under ACA and are staying about the same this year (up less than 1% anyway). Before that, they were going up like 10% every year. So, no complaints from this middle classer so far, and I do not feel like I am subsidizing anyone.
Just to be clear, 100volts+ had explained here that the ACA doesn't affect your policy yet. Obamacare's employer mandate is delayed until 1/1/2015.
 
mark5 said:
Just to be clear, 100volts+ had explained here that the ACA doesn't affect your policy yet. Obamacare's employer mandate is delayed until 1/1/2015.

That article is a misleading political hit piece. My employer is already fully compliant with the 2015 requirements, so nothing is going to change in terms of my coverage cost or what is covered.
 
I work for myself and have been canceled several times the last few years. I rarely go to the doctor or have any medical bills to speak of. With the ACA we currently are saving well over 5000 a year and have much better coverage now. Say goodby to policy cancellations, pre existing conditions, background checks and a host of other stuff. Not perfect for certain, but I never thought we would be here with such a dysfunctional group of sellouts in office. No turning back now. Time for the pink slips to go out to all the insurance industry execs that were put in place to setup shops to deny coverage for ligit claims. Time for them to bag groceries or what ever else they can find to do in the real world they helped create.
 
I would hire a heroin junkie before I'd hire an insurance industry executive.
 
Three men died. They all went to heaven. When they arrived they saw a gate. At the gate the first man heard a voice. The voice said welcome, what is your name and what was your job? The first man said my name is Chalo and I am a bicycle mechanic. God said come on in. Glad to have you here.

The second man came to the gate. Same voice.... welcome, what is your name and what was your job? My name is John and I am a electrical engineer. God said come on in. Glad to have you here.

The third man came to the gate. Same voice.... welcome, what is your name and what was your job? My name is Butch and I worked for a HMO. A HMO is a type of health insurance company. [Health Maintenance Organization] God said come in, but you can only stay for 3 days.
 
HAHHAHA! Chalo, I was at a company insurance meeting years ago in Texas. In the meeting the insurance rep was all smiling in her fancy business suit and pumps explaining about the wonderful new plan where you set aside money tax free during the year to pay your bills, like deductibles whatever, you could use it all from day one, since it was deducted from your check automagically. But, she cautioned, if you don't use it, you lose it at the end of the year.

One of the mechanics said real loud: "Well, who gets the money that gets lost?" And she said: "The insurance company" The mechanic said: "To hell with the tax break, I'd rather give my money to the government than to a damned insurance company."


Everyone laughed their asses off. :lol: :lol: 8) 8) :mrgreen:
 
you guys seemed to miss the fact that the insurance companies are right in the middle of the ACA. the republicans refused to allow a single payer plan like they have in congress and i have in medicare so instead you have to pay to support the insurance companies too with the ACA that the republicans allowed.
 
Your right, this is only the first round of cuts in the insurance industry. Sure that massive layoffs were considered when striking the initial balance on this scale of change. Writing is on the wall for them. No more room in the overhead limits to have tons of chiefs. Nice to see the circular firing squad exactly where it belongs. Medicare is expanding the more they fight the new law. Reluctant States will not be able to stop it for long before there is a fed work around.
 
Update:
Happy New Year. No more health insurance.
Called nystateofhealth.ny.gov again today.
Girl say Verification Department has to review documents. I explain that I got a wife who needs medical care and now has no health insurance. Girl say just go to the doctor and tell them that we are eligible for Medicaid. I tell her that the doctors around here don't accept promises as payment. She says she will do a escalation to her supervisor and I should check back at the end of the week. Today is Tuesday.
 
The political elite included a clause for the insurance companies called the risk corridor.making it impossible for the insurance companies to lose money.money will be given to the insurance companies by the government in case not enough young people sign up
 
Sick Wife :cry:
This has been going on for 10 days now. She is sick of being sick. Went to one of those doc in a box places 4 days ago. Gastroenteritis (Stomach Flu). Doctor said she was dehydrated. Gave her 1000 mL in IV. Paper says 500 mL. She was having diarrhea and vomiting [green diarrhea]. Today she is just vomiting. She is drinking different types of juice and Gatorade. Vomit is the same color as the juice. Goes down and then up again. Today she ate 2 oranges. The orange vomit in the bucket looked like someone chewed the oranges and spit them out. Food is not being digested. Pharmacist said that there is a Super Bug going around. Got Ondansetron HCl pills to stop the vomiting. Pills are not working.

Laundry and dirty dishes are piling up. Might have to get a second wife to help care for the first one.

Help :!:
 
Sharon Mills, a disabled nurse, long depended on other people’s kindness to manage her diabetes. She scrounged free samples from doctors’ offices, signed up for drug company discounts and asked for money from her parents and friends. Her church often helped, but last month used its charitable funds to help repair other members’ furnaces.

Ms. Mills, 54, who suffered renal failure last year after having irregular access to medication, said her dependence on others left her feeling helpless and depressed. “I got to the point when I decided I just didn’t want to be here anymore,” she said.

So when a blue slip of paper arrived in the mail this month with a new Medicaid number on it — part of the expanded coverage offered under the Affordable Care Act — Ms. Mills said she felt as if she could breathe again for the first time in years. “The heavy thing that was pressing on me is gone,” she said.

As health care coverage under the new law sputters to life, it is already having a profound effect on the lives of poor Americans. Enrollment in private insurance plans has been sluggish, but sign-ups for Medicaid, the federal insurance program for the poor, have surged in many states. Here in West Virginia, which has some of the shortest life spans and highest poverty rates in the country, the strength of the demand has surprised officials, with more than 75,000 people enrolling in Medicaid.

While many people who have signed up so far for private insurance through the new insurance exchanges had some kind of health care coverage before, recent studies have found, most of the people getting coverage under the Medicaid expansion were previously uninsured. In West Virginia, where the Democratic governor agreed to expand Medicaid eligibility, the number of uninsured people in the state has been reduced by about a third.

America ranks near the bottom of developed countries in health and longevity, and many public health experts believe that improving that ranking will be impossible without paying more attention to poor Americans. It is still an open question whether access to health insurance will improve the health of the disadvantaged in the long run, experts say, but the men and women getting the coverage here say the mere fact of having it has drastically improved their mental health.

Waitresses, fast food workers, security guards and cleaners described feeling intense relief that they are now protected from the punishing medical bills that have punched holes in their family budgets. They spoke in interviews of reclaiming the dignity they had lost over years of being turned away from doctors’ offices because they did not have insurance.

“You see it in their faces,” said Janie Hovatter, a patient advocate at Cabin Creek Health Systems, a health clinic in southern West Virginia. “They just kind of relax.”

Still, even among those who most need insurance, there has been resistance to signing up. President Obama — often blamed here in coal country for the industry’s decline — remains deeply unpopular. Recruiters trying to persuade people to enroll say they sometimes feel like drug peddlers. The people they approach often talk in hushed tones out of earshot of others.

Chad Webb, a shy 30-year-old who is enrolling people in Mingo County, said a woman at a recent event used biblical terms to disparage Mr. Obama as an existential threat to the nation. Mr. Webb said he thought to himself: “This man is not the Antichrist. He just wants you to have health insurance.”

Eventually, though, people’s desperate need for insurance seems to be overcoming their distaste for the president. Rachelle Williams, 25, an uninsured McDonald’s worker from Mingo County, said she had refused to fill out insurance forms on a recent trip to the emergency room for a painful bout of kidney stones. “I wouldn’t do it,” she said. But when she got a letter in the mail saying she qualified for Medicaid, she signed up immediately.

Uninsured people tend to be sicker and to die younger than those with insurance, and experts have reasoned that coverage should give poor Americans a better chance to improve their health. But an influential study found that lack of access to medical care accounts for just 10 percent of premature deaths in the country, compared with the 40 percent from behavioral factors like smoking and eating unhealthful food. The rest is linked to genetics, and social and environmental factors.

A widely cited experiment in Oregon offered an early look at what happens when people suddenly get Medicaid coverage. Researchers found that physical health, like obesity and the prevalence of diabetes, did not change much. But mental health improved drastically, with instances of depression plummeting. Ms. Mills said the simple relief of having coverage had helped drive away her suicidal thoughts.

Welch is a tiny town in McDowell County, a remote patch of mountains dotted by coal mines and forests logged for timber. Life expectancy here for men is just 64 years — the lowest in the country, and even lower than in Pakistan. Rates of smoking and diabetes here are nearly double the national average, and almost half the men are obese.

In communities like these, people often eat the cheapest, most convenient, food at hand.

“Poverty is short-term thinking — what can I do today to survive,” said Sister Janet Peterworth, a charity worker in Mingo County who is enrolling people.

It also costs more to live better. “Can people adopt middle-class health behaviors without being middle class?” said Adam Drewnowski, director of the Center for Public Health Nutrition at the University of Washington.

Lavetta Hutchinson, a nurse in McDowell County, is pessimistic about the law’s potential to improve health in the area. Lack of economic opportunity, low levels of education and the resulting despair have driven a raging drug epidemic and created a kind of fatalism.

“People think they are going to live as long as they are going to live, and there’s nothing they can do to change it,” she said. “They don’t see the value of prevention.”

It remains to be seen how Medicaid coverage will work once millions more people across the country are in the system. Low reimbursement rates discourage specialists from taking Medicaid patients.

But Gina Justice, a social worker with the Mingo County Diabetes Coalition, said many of her patients have to choose now between medicine and food, so access to critical medications through new coverage will be a lifeline.

“People tell us, ‘This is the food month,’ ” Ms. Justice said. “If you can take away that stress because now you’ve got a medical card, then you can focus on healthier eating that will help with these medical issues.”

And there is a high price for being uninsured, she said.

One patient, a coal truck driver in his 30s with diabetes, came in for treatment whenever he was insured, which was not often. Last summer, he had a stroke after a stretch when he had no coverage; he now walks with a cane and cannot drive. Another patient, a woman with diabetes, is now legally blind because she could not find an endocrinologist who would treat her, or a lab that would run tests, without insurance, Ms. Justice said.

Ms. Mills had to stop work at a hospital after badly injuring her back lifting a patient. She has struggled to buy her medications for Type 1 diabetes, and survives on about $12,000 a year from the hospital system where she worked. That is just above the official poverty line of $11,490 a year for a single person, and far above the old income limit for Medicaid eligibility, which was a third of poverty, or about $4,000 a year. (Only parents with dependent children were eligible; the new limit is 133 percent of poverty, or about $15,200 for an individual.) She is unable to work and lives in a small house with metal siding.

When she has had catastrophic events, like the renal failure last year, the state has temporarily put her on Medicaid, but Ms. Mills estimates that she has been insured for only a little over two of the last 12 years. She said permanent eligibility for Medicaid was a godsend.

“It’s going to change her life,” said Ms. Hutchinson, the nurse, who occasionally treats her.

Last week, Ms. Mills used her Medicaid number for the first time to fill a prescription. It was a Wednesday, and she walked into Walmart feeling good.

“Now I’ve got insurance,” she said, “and I’m waving that piece of paper all over the place.”

Others, she said, seemed to have the same idea, judging by the line at the pharmacy. “It was plumb over to the pet department!”
 
Finally on the nystateofhealth.ny.gov Eligibility page the ✖ changed to a ✔

Now I get to the plans page.
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Call a girl who receives Medicaid. She explain that she has 2 cards. Blue Cross and Blue Shield card and also a Medicaid card.

I called the 4 insurance companies to test their telephone answering skills.
http://www.fideliscare.org/ Girl on phone did not seem to know why she had a job. I might have been calling the wrong office?
https://www.independenthealth.com/ Close to my house. Answered the phone fast. Guy explains that having 2 cards gives me access to more doctors.
https://securews.bcbswny.com/web/content/WNYmember/home.html?redirectToConstituent=true/ Web site takes too long to load. Did not call.
https://www.univerahealthcare.com 1st person - "Connect you to a person who will be better able to assist you". 2nd person - "Sorry I can't help you". Me "Goodbye"

Click on the Independent Health button. Now I am hoping that the wife and I will receive some plastic cards in the mail?

Way to go Obama! Health insurance cost for the wife and I has gone from $439 a month to $0. Affordable Care Act (ACA) I can afford $0.

The real test will be when the wife goes to her doctors. My only medical bill is dentist teeth cleaning every 6 months. Wondering if Medicaid will pay for that? I do have a fear of doctors doing unnecessary procedures so they can get money to pay the mortgage on their big houses. I own my body and I will decide what is done with it.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/healt ... h_20140119

Meh. Why would I follow a link to a propaganda machine that calls itself a news org.
 
100volts+ said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/19/healt ... h_20140119

Meh. Why would I follow a link to a propaganda machine that calls itself a news org.

Because based on your comments, you seem to be following a lot of links to a propaganda machine that calls itself Republicans. I was raised a Republican more than 50 years ago - but I have no idea who these Republican'ts are, and they certainly do not represent the Republican values I believe in. In fact, since they assimilated the Moral Minority in the '70's to get votes, they have been more interested in spinning the truth than in smaller government, as well as selling out to any hate group they think will give them a leg up.

America is the battlefield being laid to waste, as two massive political machines grasp desperately for absolute power, their pied piper's twisted truths and self-serving perspectives echoed by echelons of frenzied followers (like Mr 100+volts), who are so blinded by social engineering and propaganda that they can't see the real issues, like questioning the need for a party system that by its very nature must put its well being over that of its constituents, a monopoly of power worthy of an anti-trust action. Common Good is vaporware, Hero is myth, Truth has been laid to waste by "spin", and we are all in it for ourselves.
 
you seem to be following a lot of links to a propaganda machine that calls itself Republicans.

I'm sure as shit not lockstep with anyone. I'm a vegan, but I believe in letting others eat meat. I believe I don't have a right to tell a woman what to do with her unborn child. I do believe in the second amendment and the right to defend myself. I like the ideas of Ayn Rand and Thomas Jefferson. Bush and Obama obviously don't believe in their ideas. They believe in Crony Capitalism and the New World Order. BTW, Oatnet, you have no idea what links I follow. Unless you're with the NSA. P.S. Godbless Ed Snowden.
 
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