• Hello ES! We could use some help to get us past the finish line on building the new knowledgebase for the forum.
    Can you donate? Please see our fundraising page. Thank you!

I bet a crack-down on e-bikes is coming.....

e-beach

Minor legend
Joined
Jan 10, 2012
Messages
3,706
Location
Any Los Angeles area beach I am at. Or Santa Monic

California’s new Hells Angels: Teens on e-bikes cut a path of danger​



A group of mostly illegal dirt bike and powerful e-bike riders taking over the streets downtown Los Angeles as they ride in and out of traffic, often doing tricks.

(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)



By Salvador Hernandez
Staff Writer Follow
June 10, 2026 3 AM PT

Signs of the exploding popularity of e-bikes are everywhere.
Riders are showing up in massive groups at the beach, kids are popping wheelies on quiet residential roads and scores of others are showing up in emergency rooms with cuts, broken bones or worse.
An 81-year-old was allegedly killed in Lake Forest after a 14-year-old crashed into him after he was spotted doing wheelies. In Yorba Linda, a 12-year-old was critically injured while riding a modified e-motorcycle. In Oceanside, a rider fled from police in a chase that reached speeds up to 50 mph and, in Huntington Beach a man was attacked after riding his scooter through a crowd of more than 100 young e-bike riders.


Now, with graduations underway and summer around the corner, police across the state are looking for ways to pump the brakes on dangerous e-bike riding.
“If these bikes are not treated with respect and care, it could be just as dangerous as handing over a firearm,” said Officer Brandon Pon, a collision investigator with the Los Angeles Police Department.
It’s not just risky riding that’s raised concerns. Online videos show riders how to easily modify bikes to increase speeds. Police said some bikes that are marketed for kids are more akin to motorcycles, reaching speeds of up to 50 mph. Some parents are unaware of the difference between e-bikes and e-motorcycles, police said, while others are knowingly handing over the fast, dangerous bikes to young and inexperienced riders.
The fast bikes, some of them illegal to use if the rider is not licensed, are easy to find and in April, California Atty. Gen. Rob Bonta warned sellers, manufacturers and consumers that modified e-bikes, and those that exceed state regulations may be illegal for unlicensed riders.
Weeks later, Amazon de-listed several electric motorcycles from purchase in California, and law enforcement officials are looking for other ways to cut down on illegal riding before summer.

Tommi Jo Mejer, center, 50, exits court with attorneys Paul S. Meyer and Lolita Kirk after appearing at the Harbor Justice Center in Newport Beach. Mejer is facing involuntary manslaughter charges after an 81-year-old Vietnam veteran injured in a Lake Forest e-motorcycle collision died. Mejer’s son was rideing the e-motorcycle.

(Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times)
In Orange County, Dist. Atty. Todd Spitzer has created a specialized unit to go after dangerous riders, including minors, and begun charging parents, too.
“If parents refuse to hold their children accountable, then I am going to hold parents accountable when they knowingly break the law,” Spitzer said in a statement. “There is absolutely no reason a child should be handed the keys to a motorcycle and be sent on their way without training, without a license, and without the maturity to handle that kind of responsibility.”
In San Diego, the risks and dangers have grown to a point where on May 28, the county’s health department issued a notice warning doctors about the increasing number of e-bike related injuries.
The County of San Diego Health and Human Services Agency recommended physicians to encourage helmet use and counseled parents about the differences between e-bikes, the risks of riding in tandem, and local and state laws.
But with few regulations on the books and companies designing some to look like motorcycles, interest in e-bikes has surged. At first, they were spotted in more affluent communities, with the cost of e-bikes ranging anywhere between $1,000 to $6,000 for stock models.
But soon they started to be spotted everywhere.

E-bikers ride along the 1400 block of Artesia Boulevard near Mira Costa High School in Manhattan Beach.

(Gary Coronado / For The Times)
And the casualties connected to e-bikes are mounting.
In Orange County, an 81-year-old Vietnam veteran died in a collision with a 14-year-old on an e-bike. Last month, a 12-year-old riding an e-bike was seriously injured after colliding with a Tesla in San Diego. In Sacramento County, a 60-year-old nurse died in a collision with a teen on a biking path.
Along with these incidents, a whole other set of issues arise when riders post a call for a “rideout” on social media, which can trigger a gathering of dozens of riders or more.
Law enforcement officials said the large crowds can be known to get rowdy, block large streets as they ride en mass and in a few occasions turned violent.
Sam El-Said, a 51-year-old from Huntington Beach, was attacked by several young men May 9 after he and his wife rode their e-scooters through a crowd of more than 100 people on e-bikes. Two minors have been arrested.

Officer Gerold Rodriguez, center, of the Hermosa Beach Police Department, shown flanked by HBPD Sgt. Guy Dove, left, and HBPD Community Service Officer Nathaniel Soriano, writes citations for four juveniles who were riding their e-bikes along the Strand at the Pier Plaza in Hermosa Beach.

(Gary Coronado/For The Times)
“When they get in these packs they get brazen,” El-Said said. “I can’t tell what provoked them, but I know I’m not the only one that’s experienced these types of things.”
He’s seen the large crowd of e-bike riders gather regularly near the beach, he said, on the weekends and summer months.
“These kids will ride down the street and play chicken with cars,” he said. “They just go out there and wreck havoc.”
Summertime will likely bring more riders out, and police are trying to get as much information and education out to the public as they can before to prevent more injuries on the street, Pon said.
Part of the issue, Pon said, is that parents are unaware to the types of e-bikes that are being purchased and instead providing teenagers with e-motorcycles and dirt bikes.
E-bikes in California are split into three classifications, depending on features and maximum speeds.


Not every electric bike is legally an e-bike in California​


A table that compares California’s three legal e-bike classes with an electric motorcycle that is not legally considered an e-bike. Class 1 uses pedal assist only and can reach 20 mph. Class 2 uses pedal assist and throttle up to 20 mph. Class 3 uses pedal assist up to 28 mph and requires riders to be at least 16 and wear a helmet. A throttle-powered electric motorcycle, often without pedals, that can reach around 60 mph and requires a driver’s license and DMV registration.

Table with 4 columns and 4 rows.
TypeMotor styleMax mphAge and other restrictions
Class 1
class-1-y.webp
Pedal assist20All ages; helmet required under 18
Class 2
class-2-y.webp
Pedal assist and throttle20All ages; helmet required under 18
Class 3
class-3-y.webp
Pedal assist2816+;
helmet required
Electric motorcycleNot an e-bike
e-motorcycle-y.webp
Throttle+6016+;
driver’s license and DMV registration required

California Attorney General
Lorena Elebee, Hailey Wang LOS ANGELES TIMES


Class 1 bicycles have an electric motor that engages only when manual pedals are used, with a maximum motor speed of 20 mph. Class 2 bicycles also provide electrical power up to 20 mph, but have a throttle that can be used without using the pedals. Class 3 e-bikes are similar to Class 1 pedal bicycles, but have a maximum speed of 28 mph, and the rider must be over 16 years of age.
But electric cycles that can boost power past 28 mph, have a motor stronger than 750 watts or do not have pedals are not legally considered e-bikes in California, according to the California Department of Justice. Those vehicles are instead considered either electric mopeds or motorcycles, and are required to be registered with the DMV and the rider to have a motorcycle license.

A juvenile riding his e-bike on the Strand in Hermosa Beach.

(Mel Melcon / Los Angeles Times)
Bikes must have a label that identifies what class of e-bike they are, and the California Department of Justice earlier this month warned retailers that misrepresenting electric motorcycles as e-bikes is a crime.
“We have to get this out there because I do believe that most of these collisions, for the large part, they’re likely preventable,” Pon said.
On May 10, after the warning went out, Amazon agreed to stop selling e-bikes that went over the state’s limit.
“We are in the process of removing e-bike listings that do not comply with California speed limit regulations,” the company confirmed to The Times in an email.
The young age of riders, and the speeds that can be reached by e-bikes and e-motorcycles can become a deadly combination, said Dr. Alan Nager, from Children’s Hospital Los Angeles.
“They go faster than regular bikes, they’re heavier, they’re more difficult to maneuver and they require additional coordination and awareness,” Nager said.
As director of emergency and transport medicine at the hospital, Nager said he’s seen the impact and risks of the electric bicycles first hand, and they’re showing up in the emergency room more often.
For the past three years, Nager said, the number of kids and teenagers admitted to Children’s Hospital Los Angeles with e-bike related injuries has doubled each year.
In 2023, the hospital recorded eight patients with e-bike related injuries, Nager said. In 2024, the hospital saw 16 patients and, in 2025, 36 injured riders were admitted. So far this year, Nager said, the hospital has seen 21 patients with e-bike injuries through the first five months of the year.
The hospital also sees several patients that are injured from traditional pedal bike accidents, Nager said, but e-bike riders tend to suffer more severe and serious injuries, a fact he attributes to the speed of the bikes.
“There’s a relationship between higher speed, less coordination and more chances of an accident,” Nager said.
Quantifying exactly how many crashes, injuries and fatalities occur is a challenge, however. Multiple law enforcement agencies still classify e-bike crashes with pedal bike accidents, and the recent appearance of e-bikes has made data difficult to collect.
“Specifically, incident and crash reporting is seldom specific enough to indicate these bike types, with e-bike crashes often recorded as bicycle crashes, and e-scooters often recorded as pedestrian crashes,” a spokesperson for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in a statement.
One study by San Jose University’s Mineta Transportation Institute published in December found that data was hard to collect for the same reason. It found, however, that according to the National Fatality Analysis Reporting System, at least 154 fatal e-bike crashes had been recorded between 2022 and 2023.
Another study published this year by the American Academy Orthopaedic Surgeons, looking at electric and pedal bike injuries at a San Diego trauma center, found e-bike injuries in San Diego had jumped by more than 300% between 2019 and 2023.
In Orange County, the sheriff’s department is working with schools and Orange County Transportation Authority for educational programs, said Sgt. Gerard McCann of the Orange County Sheriff’s Department.
For example, several schools require students to register their bicycles — electric or pedal powered — if they’re taken to and from school.
But as many parents know, if there’s a new rule, there will likely be a child out there trying to break it. Earlier this month, McCann said, deputies were called to a local high school after students riding e-bikes, including some that appeared to be motorcycles, were spotted locking them in a secluded area away from campus to avoid registering them.
A recent review of e-bike-related citations by the Orange County Sheriff’s Department also showed the growing problem. E-bike-related citations by the department jumped to 259 in 2025, according to the department — up from 173 the previous year. The two most common tickets, according to the data, was riding without a helmet and unsafe riding.
Online, teens are also watching videos on how to remove the speed limits on their bikes, so they can go past the legal limit.
Some of the modifications are so particular, Pon said, they go unnoticed without specific training or expertise.
“It’s almost impossible for law enforcement to identify right off the bat, a simple modification,” Pon said.
The modifications can be simple and easily made on several models with just a few basic tools, but can increase speeds of the bike up to 50 mph. Video tutorials show how to override control panels that limit speeds, and how to change out batteries and motors.
It also isn’t uncommon for law enforcement to try to stop a rider on a e-bike, or an illegal motorcycle, and having the minor and their friends take off.
In Newport Beach, police tried to stop an underage rider on May 9 when they spotted him riding an illegal electric motorcycle but, according to video posted by police, the boy fled from police. At times, the boy drove onto opposing traffic at high speed, prompting police to abandon the chase.
He was later arrested at his home, and police said they had previous encounters with him. In a statement, police said they would be recommending charges against his mother.
When deputies do make a stop and try to reach out to parents about the risks with the illegal e-bike or motorcycle, McCann said parents are often not aware of the differences between them. A few parents, he said, are angry that the vehicles are seized after learning their kids are not allowed to ride them.
“That’s part of the problem,” McCann said. “It’s really the parents who are paying for them.”
 
Notice how this is being coordinated nationwide? News networks all over the USA saying the same exact things, repeating the same lies and propaganda?

What we need is a crackdown on the predatory police, predatory legal system, predatory prison system, predatory intelligence agencies, and predatory auto/oil/insurance companies. It should be obvious at this point that a certain group of rich people in conjunction with government at all levels doesn't like poor people having relatively anonymous mobility that doesn't funnel money to them. The reckless kids are a mere excuse when car/truck/SUV operators are the greater threat to pedestrians, but lets not address that 800 lb gorilla because it forces people to funnel their money upward...
 
Notice how this is being coordinated nationwide?
Not only nationwide, this is a worldwide issue

The Hegelian dialectic of problem, reaction and solution is being used all around the world to impose harsher E-bike regulations

The screw continues to tighten not only regarding E-bikes but our God given rights to our freedoms to the pursuit of life liberty and happiness.
 
Gee, I guess nobody ever said that ES wasn't just a political tool.
 
Police aren't the problem, they are the solution to this issue. We need local enforcement of existing laws. I am not talking about nitpicking fines for reflector sizes. But if a group of under aged kids on illegal emotos are terrorizing the streets, the obvious thing is to arrest them and confiscate the bikes. The kids will learn a valuable lesson and the streets will be safer.
 
They not only need to arrest the kids....(I have had 3 13 year Olds almost hit me multiple times going 50mph in the alley while I am hauling out my garbage), but they need to arrest the parents who not only purchase these illegal emotos..but allow their kids to do this.
 
Police aren't the problem, they are the solution to this issue. We need local enforcement of existing laws. I am not talking about nitpicking fines for reflector sizes. But if a group of under aged kids on illegal emotos are terrorizing the streets, the obvious thing is to arrest them and confiscate the bikes. The kids will learn a valuable lesson and the streets will be safer.
If the pigs would only go after true criminals that would be great but that's not what happens they love to make anyone who has a small infraction such as a tag light out into a criminal and the constant illegal searching for drugs needs to end. Just because a person wants to use a drug of their choice doesn't make them a criminal.
 
Yep, in the first case penalize the parents for buying hi-power e-scooters and e-bikes for their under age kids, in the second case go after the real criminals. It just not going to happen I am afraid to say. It's the same over here with the illegal dumping of house hold and business rubbish on farmers fields and the likes. If we try and do something about it we end up getting arrested.
 
Last edited:
If the pigs would only go after true criminals that would be great but that's not what happens
The worst of the criminals belong to the socio-economic class that the police(as well as the military and intelligence agencies) exist to protect from the group they are exploiting(that group being everyone else who isn't in their socio-economic class). They're not going to leave us alone for just trying to get around on the cheap in a low-impact manner to the environment because this same class of people ride around in private jets from proceeds made by taxing/regulating much more resource-hungry/expensive modes of transportation than ebikes, while simultaneously telling everyone else they need to reduce their resource consumption to "save the planet", the same planet that this socio-economic class is actively destroying for personal profit while blaming everyone else.

Those who are thinking ahead are going to be making stealth builds that look like "acoustic" bicycles. Give them the middle finger every way you can.
 
The police are just people doing a necessary job. A few might be on a power trip or even corrupt, but most are following the direction of their superiors and the priorities that are set for them. Just like the rest of us do in our jobs. Only their job is a lot more dangerous and thankless than mine.

Maybe our intelligence agencies and federal law enforcement are infiltrated by people with a political agenda. We have seen evidence of that. But I really don't believe that most local police departments are influenced by national politics or some kind of class war. It's been said that all politics are local.

If the city council/mayor want the police to prioritize enforcing ebike laws, they will do that. If the city council/mayor want them to focus on generating revenue by writing tickets for minor infractions, they will do that also. I personally don't have a problem with them cracking down on drug trafficking. Meth, crack, and heroin are at the root of a lot of crime.
 
Police aren't the problem, they are the solution to this issue. We need local enforcement of existing laws. I am not talking about nitpicking fines for reflector sizes. But if a group of under aged kids on illegal emotos are terrorizing the streets, the obvious thing is to arrest them and confiscate the bikes. The kids will learn a valuable lesson and the streets will be safer.
It is better to confiscate cars from the speeding drivers. Those speeding drivers will learn a valuable lesson and the streets and highways will be safer.
 
This is one of the many reasons i left that state.
They chose the 'punish the whole class' option when legislating.

Excellent weather, but damn you if you enjoy it the wrong way.
Good luck to you if you live there.

In Utah, the legal system is much more likely to punish the individual. They make laws, but typically only punish serious offenses.
The legal system is not your enemy here, bad weather is.

So pick your preferred poison 😅
 
It is better to confiscate cars from the speeding drivers. Those speeding drivers will learn a valuable lesson and the streets and highways will be safer.
We are talking about groups of kids doing wheelies and weaving through traffic. A car can be impounded for reckless driving in California. And excessive speeding, like 100mph, and dangerous weaving through traffic in a car can be charged as reckless driving.
 
The police are just people doing a necessary job. A few might be on a power trip or even corrupt, but most are following the direction of their superiors and the priorities that are set for them. Just like the rest of us do in our jobs. Only their job is a lot more dangerous and thankless than mine.

Maybe our intelligence agencies and federal law enforcement are infiltrated by people with a political agenda. We have seen evidence of that. But I really don't believe that most local police departments are influenced by national politics or some kind of class war. It's been said that all politics are local.

If the city council/mayor want the police to prioritize enforcing ebike laws, they will do that. If the city council/mayor want them to focus on generating revenue by writing tickets for minor infractions, they will do that also. I personally don't have a problem with them cracking down on drug trafficking. Meth, crack, and heroin are at the root of a lot of crime.
You are the problem, don't just take in Blue line propaganda there's plenty of information showing the truth. The Nazis used the just doing my job excuses also, and we know how that turned out.
 
You are the problem, don't just take in Blue line propaganda there's plenty of information showing the truth. The Nazis used the just doing my job excuses also, and we know how that turned out.
There is nothing immoral or a problem about the police enforcing the laws passed by the legislature and/or city council. If you have a problem with the laws, take it up with the people writing the laws. I wouldn't want to live in a place that didn't have law enforcement and let the criminals do what they want.
 
There is nothing immoral or a problem about the police enforcing the laws passed by the legislature and/or city council. If you have a problem with the laws, take it up with the people writing the laws. I wouldn't want to live in a place that didn't have law enforcement and let the criminals do what they want.
Victimless crimes are why the USA has the world's largest prison population. If you're a cop enforcing laws with no victims, you are no different than the Redcoats we defeated for our freedoms.
 
Once upon a time two brothers, Wilbur and Orville, decide they want to fly, after all, if God hadn't wanted men to fly he never would have created wings. So they build a plane, and it flew! Soon others start to build them too, in barns and backyard workshops, and the planes got better, faster, and could fly further. And there were some accidents, some people died unfortunately. Businessmen saw all this and decided they wanted in on the action too, they could make a tidy profit out of this new mode of transport. Before long planes were flying left and right across the countryside and airfields are springing up. It was a wonderland for those in the pilot's seat.

Then one day government poked it nose in, because a couple of children were killed when a plane landed on them at an airfield, and a farmer and a pilot died when a plane's engine cut out and it tried to land on a highway. Regulation was needed they thought. But the pilots had other ideas. No, this is our God given right, it shall not be infringed upon.

Immediately following the Wright brothers' success, early aviation was incredibly dangerous. Aircraft were fragile, engines failed often, and early pioneers lacked a true understanding of flight control leading to high crash rates. This experimental era transformed aviation into the highly regulated and safe modern industry we know today.

Governments slowly brought order to the Chaos but it took decades. And even with all the regulations, the increase in traffic and newly engineered planes, that were not always safe, made crashes inevitable, even to this day. In the 1970's though something odd occurred. A man strapped a lawnmower engine to a hang glider and out of that experiment a new class of plane was eventually legalized. The powered ultralight. It would be unregulated basically, though the pilots still had to obey certain rules of the air, and the engines had to be small in capacity, the planes limited to certain altitudes and prohibited over certain areas - Like suburbia!

It will all work out in the end, you'll see.
 
Notice how this is being coordinated nationwide? News networks all over the USA saying the same exact things, repeating the same lies and propaganda?

What we need is a crackdown on the predatory police, predatory legal system, predatory prison system, predatory intelligence agencies, and predatory auto/oil/insurance companies. It should be obvious at this point that a certain group of rich people in conjunction with government at all levels doesn't like poor people having relatively anonymous mobility that doesn't funnel money to them. The reckless kids are a mere excuse when car/truck/SUV operators are the greater threat to pedestrians, but lets not address that 800 lb gorilla because it forces people to funnel their money upward...
👍🏾@Toescutter
 
If you'd like to see some true doomer content, check out the UK forums:
https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/topic/47447-more-seizures/

Most of the ebikes collected do look like they're in the 1kw or higher range.
But they are even busting 250w bikes because they have throttles 😵‍💫

Feel bad for you dudes.
But there is a loophole over there, you just have to wear a long white jacket over white pants, and if they do happen to pull you over by mistake, you say you're in a hurry to get to the mosque for prayer.
 
The worst of the criminals belong to the socio-economic class that the police(as well as the military and intelligence agencies) exist to protect from the group they are exploiting(that group being everyone else who isn't in their socio-economic class). They're not going to leave us alone for just trying to get around on the cheap in a low-impact manner to the environment because this same class of people ride around in private jets from proceeds made by taxing/regulating much more resource-hungry/expensive modes of transportation than ebikes, while simultaneously telling everyone else they need to reduce their resource consumption to "save the planet", the same planet that this socio-economic class is actively destroying for personal profit while blaming everyone else.

Those who are thinking ahead are going to be making stealth builds that look like "acoustic" bicycles. Give them the middle finger every way you can.
Toecutter is my favorite, I have a Street Fighter Bandit dedicated to him.
 
What's helping here is where there has been a few incidents where elderly people have been knocked down and hospitalized by youngsters riding on the pavements on high powered e-bikes.
 
Back
Top