If half of everyone collided at 60 mph once in their life...

[Gordo]

Hell, I don't even understand the title. Which half of a person is supposed to collide with the wall? The top half, the bottom half or one side?

Lol. That's a joke, right?

YUP!
I don't believe in luck, karma or any superstition. If you satisfy one set of physical conditions, you are killed. A different set, you survive. What you do if you survive, is what matters. You can lay around and piss and moan or learn pain control and get on with what you have left. As long as you can think, you can have a life. Stephen Hawking is the supreme example of what one can do with almost zero body function. The range of 100% physical to 100% mental leaves lots of room for us all. Make the best of it, without testing your noggin on a wall.

 

[Evoforce]

This is so much more than a coin toss. Humanity is at stake. Like it or not, we appear to have in our control, most of the other animals on this planet. Why are there no others that rival us in our so called intellect. Using mathmatics and statistical theory, there should be other species, being that we are all made of the same stuff, that should have equally evolved. I mean based on the larger gene pool, the roughly 50/50 stats should have worked on the development of many more species also allowing them to have our supposedly higher intellect. Maybe in all of the other cases, their evolution, kinda just somehow hit a wall... I mean faster than 60 tho because there are no survivors. LOL

 

[Evoforce]

I don't mean luck as a superstition. I mean luck as a finite equation as in "if that car had hit you 1 foot farther back, you would not have survived." Don't necessarily view it as "luck", but more as positive or negative. And you can directly affect these outcomes (though by some measure) by your actions.

 

[Evoforce]

We have history books full of famous people that it would have made a differance if they were here or not. And all of those not so famous people, like you and I, also make a big differance. Unless of course, we bring up that the earth, according to science, is going to be consumed by the sun. So why do we even try right? Because of hope and aspiration. Because of the will to survive. Because we don't give up easy right?

 

[purplepeopledesign]

Purple, some people don't have to physically hit the wall in order to act as though they did. And when you presume that you haven't acted stupidly whether physically hitting the wall at 60 or not... Start by going and asking your parents, then your teachers, then your other half, etc... how they have enjoyed your being a perfect person. My feeling would be you should more likely instead thank them for putting up with you and humble yourself and ask them if there is anything you can do for them. At least it sounds like good advice that I should take myself.. Because as stupidity goes, we have all been there. Actually hitting the brick wall and surviving is more to do with luck, family, equipment and professionals who care, that take an oath that everone is worth putting together after a 60 mph wall tag. So to be, or to evolve to be, perfectly logical and maybe more intelligent we may have lost or loose other skills to cope with what reality really is...caring about each other(that trait) is more important than intelligence. The old saying, "Its better to be lucky than good", really does apply!

You assume a lot.

For instance, I have been in a highway collision without a seatbelt or airbags and survived. We T-boned a car turning left across our path. My uncle lost a tooth, his friend broke an ankle and in the back seat, I received a concussion and whiplash. Fortunately, the people in the other car also survived, although I believe the passenger lost her pregnancy. Saw the whole thing happen in slow motion and put my hands on the seatback in front of me to brace for the impact.

Like most first time parents, mine made just as many mistakes bringing me up as I made growing up. We are all better people for it. I will be forever grateful for the one thing they did that has made all the difference in my life. They immigrated to a G8 country.

So, while I've been lucky, I don't believe for a second that I could survive another 60 mph collision without restraints. And that is what drives my thinking. If we want the human race to improve, we have to educate ourselves collectively... and only by individual learning. If some people die because they aren't smart enough to use safety equipment, let that be a lesson to the rest. I could have been that example. Having tested my luck once, I'm not stupid enough to test that lesson again.

In nature, species evolve by leaving behind the weak, regardless if their weakness is mental or physical. The corollary is that whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

It sounds cold-hearted but it isn't. I never said that I want people to be injured or die. Just the opposite. My preference is for everyone to use their seatbelt. But we can't force people and if not using it causes someone to lose their ability to propagate, it's good for the species, even if it is sad.

ensen.

 

[Evoforce]

Purple, I really don't believe people need to be legislated to be forced to wear seatbelts or helmets or whatever. And you make it clear that you are against people having offspring and are against people drinking alcohol. Both of these things are still marginally legal to do. Just think back when front seat air bags were killing and injuring children and the elderly. Now you have to switch it off or move them to the back seat. and seat belts are still an issue for smaller people causing grave injuries. Even full face helmets are causing more and more clavical injuries to bicycle and motorcycle riders. That automobile that you get into would be much safer if you wore a helmet when you were occupying it, as well as a several point harness, and a neck brace, and a fire suit ... or would you feel stupid doing that because no one except high speed racers are using them. Or is it just inconventient for us to do. Better yet...That automobile that you get into is one of the most dangerous things that you statistically do everyday. Are you going to stop doing that because you are stupidly putting yourself and others at greater risk of death and/or injury? Well where does it all end if we all are forced to be regulated against every perceivable risk? A complete loss of freedom is where it leads, and we will all want to crash into that wall, in order to escape being little brainwashed robots. Oh yea! and lets hope that if you are ever on (any) medication now or in the future as you age that you give up your license to drive or ride a bike or be on any form of transport. Because in most states thats a DUI. And its going to get worse... Please don't personally take offense, but alot of people just gobble up what the (powers that be) tell them. They manipulate the statistics to suit whatever purpose they want to lead you. Now do I want to face that wall at 60 mph surrounded by a race car with full gear on? No, but if I had to face the wall thats how I would want it. So would it make me "smart" to gear up and just be prepared to hit the wall everyday? But no, I am stupid like everyone else and I get into the car in the first place, believing that nothing bad is going to happen to me, with as little encumbrance as possible... Gee whiz, I think I am getting statistically altered and genetically mutated as we speak. Naw.. I aint no wimp yet! :wink:

 

[purplepeopledesign]

And you make it clear that you are against people having offspring and are against people drinking alcohol.

Huh? Where in the world did you get that?

ensen.

 

[Evoforce]

Am I wrong?

 

[purplepeopledesign]

Am I wrong?

Yes. If my fiance and I could have kids without endangering her life we would. And I love my booze.... I'm just wise enough not to drive a car when I'm buzzed. How you inferred this from what I've written makes me doubt the solidity of your other opinions. I'm sure others are even more dismissive. How did you get to that conclusion?

ensen.

 

[Evoforce]

Because where I am from you don't have to be buzzed as you call it to get a DUI. I live in a state where they promote "zero tolerance" which leads me to believe that you have called others stupid when maybe you have unknowing or otherwise have broken the law.

 

[Evoforce]

You referred to people having offspring in a negative light and also based on what you wrote I could tell you had none. So if anyone were reading this they could see that I very much analyzed what you wrote.

 

[Evoforce]

I'm sorry that you wanted to have children but cannot. I can understand why you had to make your decision that you did. Maybe that is why I picked up on the frustration. MY woman and I had to stop at 2 childres when we wanted 4 because of genetic reasons. I am an adopted person and am very "lucky" or positive about being adopted by a loving family. Maybe that type of situation will exist in your future. I get a little testy myself when it comes to people using terms of stupid or smart and genetic "better" discussions. I have a personal reason of frustration in this area. One of my children has down syndrome and is a beautiful person. So...lets make peace and know that I will drop this with you hoping to be friends.

 

[purplepeopledesign]

You referred to people having offspring in a negative light and also based on what you wrote I could tell you had none. So if anyone were reading this they could see that I very much analyzed what you wrote.

I'm sorry that you wanted to have children but cannot. I can understand why you had to make your decision that you did. Maybe that is why I picked up on the frustration. MY woman and I had to stop at 2 childres when we wanted 4 because of genetic reasons. I am an adopted person and am very "lucky" or positive about being adopted by a loving family. Maybe that type of situation will exhist in your future. I get a little testy myself when it comes to people using terms of stupid or smart and genetic "better" discussions. I have a personal reason of frustration in this area. One of my children has down syndrome and is a beautiful person. So...lets make peace and know that I will drop this with you hoping to be friends.

I just read over everything I wrote on this thread and not once did I malign parents or parenting. I think you mistake me for another forum member and projected your own frustrations onto me. And that does not bode well for any future interactions. As such, I'll consider the subject dropped.

ensen.

 

[Evoforce]

I'll respect your right to interpret it as you wish and hopefully as you grow older you will have more compassion for others and if I have been off base by what you said (I think not) please have the compassion to forgive me because I read what you wrote more literally than what you intended.