LiFePO4 "FullRiver 3300mAh" rejects - 15¢ each +shipping

Hello all, Has anybody dealt with this guy or recently tested any of these?

https://www.ebay.com/i/313017291213?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D5a47c5a59f2640d59208e6ca47a5cb87%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D223926964270%26itm%3D313017291213%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202%26algv%3DDefault
 
rollingfieldz said:
Hello all, Has anybody dealt with this guy or recently tested any of these?

https://www.ebay.com/i/313017291213?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D5a47c5a59f2640d59208e6ca47a5cb87%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D12%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D223926964270%26itm%3D313017291213%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202%26algv%3DDefault

At that price, those cells had better meet or exceed their spec.

On the other hand, it’s no big risk to buy a box and test them out yourself.

I’ve been helping a friend of mine build and test packs with some old stale versions of the same cells, which he bought super cheaply. None of them have been cycled many times, but their behavior so far is not great (awesome for the price, however). The charger I use terminates at about 3.54V per cell, and it turns off when it reaches full charge. The cells quickly drop to about 3.34V per cell at that point. On discharge, they yield a little over half of their rated capacity, and when the pack’s resting voltage reaches about 3.0V/cell, the BMS cuts off under load and stays off.

When recharged, they take about 110% of the measured discharge before the charger cuts off.

I’m hoping some exercise will make them perform better, but even at this level they’ll be acceptable for their purpose— lighting and e-assist for pedal powered parade floats.

The batches of cells I’m working with have date codes. If the ones in the eBay listing are of recent manufacture and do what they claim to do, they should be fine. Not high performance by any stretch, but worth the price.
 
Balmorhea said:
At that price, those cells had better meet or exceed their spec.

On the other hand, it’s no big risk to buy a box and test them out yourself.
Especialy since eBay or PayPal wil give you a full refund regardless of whether the seller accepts returns.

> The charger I use terminates at about 3.54V per cell

a little high but good.

> The cells quickly drop to about 3.34V per cell at that point

That is normal for even the best quality LFP cells, any higher is just harmful surface charge, not higher cap utilization.

> On discharge, they yield a little over half of their rated capacity

At what rate?

New ones should reach very close to rated at 0.2-0.3C

Anywhere over 1C these will not perform well, A123 they ain't, but at 80% off. . .
 
john61ct said:
Balmorhea said:
At that price, those cells had better meet or exceed their spec.

> On discharge, they yield a little over half of their rated capacity

At what rate?

In my bike, it’s about 1.0C peak, roughly 0.3C at cruise. Since they are intended for EV use, I think that’s a pretty representative load. I’m preparing to use LED lighting for capacity tests at lower load, to see how different it is.

My buddy got several thousand of these cells for about $.08 each. The seller assumed they were garbage quality due to age. The packs we build cost more in nickel strip than they do in cells, so they don’t have to perform very well to be worth the cost and effort.
 
Precisely timed true CC load testing will give much more accurate results than using wattmeter mAh counting
 
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