Lithium running out?

[rg12]

I heard lithium is running out which is said to be the price increase etc...
but if it's true, how come Tesla has all their future batteries running on lithium if it's so available and "not" getting expensive?

 

[goatman]

probably politics and sanctions

Biden just did something in the Congo

https://www.mining.com/biden-reimposes-sanctions-on-mining-magnate-dan-gertler/

then you have Chile where Chinas in there mining, America doesnt like it so they send in the Globalist to do environmental impact studies to find an endangered lithium salt flat frog to shut things down

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-chile-lithium-sqm-focus-idUSKBN29K1DB

now Biden wants to mine lithium in the USA

https://www.reuters.com/article/usa-election-mining-idUSKBN27808B

see how that works

theyre just starting to recycle lithium instead of incinerate it

https://norwegianscitechnews.com/2019/12/lithium-can-now-be-recycled/

that should stabilize the lithium prices, or not

 

[kansas]

I heard lithium is running out which is said to be the price increase etc...
but if it's true, how come Tesla has all their future batteries running on lithium if it's so available and "not" getting expensive?

Well you can hear all kinds of silly things if you listen in the wrong places. How about a citation for that piece of misinformation that you heard, rather than just passing on a rumor that you heard? As the Former Guy was fond of saying while asserting misinformation, "people are saying," but he never said which people or how their sayings could be tested or offered any fact-based evidence. Facts good, rumors bad.

The Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium goes on at some length about lithium supply. I suspect that as more easily extracted sources are depleted, the price will rise, that's universal. There is no jepoardy to short-term supply, wouldn't you suppose that the Tesla people are on top of that? Of course they base their decisions on factual information that they watch closely, not on "I heard that...."

Wikipedia also has a nice article on Critical Thinking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking. What "people are saying" is not part of it.

Rant over.

 

[flippy]

I heard lithium is running out which is said to be the price increase etc...
but if it's true, how come Tesla has all their future batteries running on lithium if it's so available and "not" getting expensive?

because its not true.

this short of shit orgininates generally from short sellers wanting to infulence the markets for profit. it does not matter if its true, it just has to sound true.

 

[Dauntless]

All depends on what you mean by "Running out." They're running out of nuclear fuel, the supply isn't there for a major upswing in nuclear that would match the major upswing in use of lithium. Don't expect there to be a problem in your lifetime but nuclear is temporary. As is coal. Probably less than a century before mining can't match our current use, but the use is still going UP.

As for lithium, the use is going up. MORE in electric cars. MORE in power storage systems. In the next decade the annual use is expected to be 8 times that of today. Except production is expected to reach 3 times of today so we can't expect to have all that lithium in those projected uses. Alternatives will be needed, but will we have them? We'll need this no later than 2025, "They" say.

I would say if that's not "Running out," you will need to come up with a term to offer the message of it not being available.

 

[flippy]

there is enough lithium in north america to convert every car and truck in america to lithium and have enough to spare for a jet ski on the weekends just from the known deposits right now.
places like china have considerable bigger deposits then north america has.

so no, there is no shortage for lithium, not te mention that lithium is recycleble and actually a very small part in a cell. there is considerably more nickel and cobalt for example in a cell. this is also why tesla is going to make iron based cells for their grid storage and the "cheap" tesla they plan on making where cost and size is the primary concern.

 

[spinningmagnets]

Luke just started a lithium battery recycling business...

 

[Dauntless]

there is enough lithium in north america

Then you need to tell North America where it's hiding. . . .

 

[goatman]

 

[Dauntless]

And look at him, holding out on us like that.

 

[john61ct]

LI batteries do not even contain significant amounts of the metal.

Rising Nickel prices are a much greater problem ATM

 

[Chalo]

LI batteries do not even contain significant amounts of the metal.

Rising Nickel prices are a much greater problem ATM

And cobalt.

 

[rg12]

I see