Not really ebike related, tire question

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Hi guys
I like to carry the most necessay tools with me when riding my ebike because I dont wanna get stranded with a problem.
I have inner tube patches that I keep in my storage backrack, but I was wondering
what type of quick fix do you recommend for "oute"r tire punctures/cuts??

Thanks!
 
Money.

Here in the USA, a folded-once $1 bill could be used to put between the tube and the tire's inside surface, and in many (most?) cases even with a gash in teh tire sidewall or tread area it'd hold up for a while.

If Korean paper money is like ours, and is really a cloth/paper hybrid, you could use it hte same way.

There's a lot of similar things youc ould carry to do that with, too.

I once had a very old patch kit that included a little square of cloth with pinked edges, that was intended to be glued to the inside of the tire with the same liquid patch compound (rubber cement) the tube gets. I don't think I ever had occasion to use it, but I'm sure it'd work as well as the $1 bills have for people that've posted about it.
 
Id rather not use money though haha

Id like a repair method that would not only get me home but more long term and that would last a while
 
There you may have a problem.

If you actually tear or cut the tire carcass, the threads that give it it's strength are parted, and the tube inside it is pressurized and trying to push itself out the hole.

So it's like a tear in rough low-threadcount cloth, with you pushing from inside it.

Eventually, more threads will break, the tear or cut will spread, and the tube will spill out.

You can patch that by gluing something to it from teh inside, but since the pressure is also from teh inside, then unless that patch goes a long way away from the tear/cut both circumferentally and up the sidewalls, it's not supported well (pinched) by the tube and the rest of the tire. So pressure from the tube will tend to continue pushing outward, trying to spread the edges.

Plus the edges of teh cut/tear, if on the tread, will wear faster than the rest of teh area around it, cuz tehy will stick out a little bit. As they wear thinner, it may be more likely for somethign else to grab hold of them and tear further, or simply bve easier to poke thru the tire into the tube.


Anything you patch from the outside with (whcih is where you'd really wanna put the patch on a tire to hold the edges together, in addition to the inside to rpevent herniation) will wear thru, and will also be a "bump" on every revolution if it's on the tread area. Stapling or sewing thru the tire carcass to stitch the gap closed also will wear thru.


I've got a number of tires I'd love to keep using but have worn areas or holes in them, and I don't patch and reuse them simply because at that point there's too much of a risk to being stranded from a tire *and* tube failure--and since both will probably go at the same time, if it's on the front and you're braking it could cause a nasty crash.

(If you look in the CrazyBike2 thread, you'll find a post about a General CST tire as I was on my way home from work, that was rubbed thru it's final layer and into the tube as I had to skid to a stop on it. If it hadn't been a super-thick tube it'd've popped the tube and I would nto ahave been ABLE to stop before ending up in the already-happenign collision between two cars in front of me. That woudl've really sucked)


If it is just a small round hole, like nail/etc., it's not such a big deal, if it didn't cut any/many threads.



I suppose you could stuff another whole tire (minus it's bead) inside a tire, and if they're both worn or damaged just turn them so the areas don't overlap. But that's not likely to be very balanced. And it will get heavy....
 
Thanks for the info!!!
Yeah guess its not a good idea to run a patched tire anyway. Just change it when I make it back home.

Is it common for the inner tube to be pinched/cut but the outer tube have no damage??
Happened to me last week
 
ebike11 said:
I like to carry the most necessay tools with me when riding my ebike because I dont wanna get stranded with a problem.
I have inner tube patches that I keep in my storage backrack, but I was wondering
what type of quick fix do you recommend for "oute"r tire punctures/cuts??

For a temporary repair on the road, the traditional tire boot is a dollar bill folded in half a couple of times, inserted between tire and tube. For a more permanent repair, glue on a swatch cut from an old tire sidewall or a piece of fabric rim tape.
 
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