Permanent magnet motors, Bedini, Perendev, etc

[ElectricGod]

no one talking about free energy from magnets but they can be seen as an eternal potential energy sources. they cant do work alone though. similarly to in a motor when powered they greatly enhance the torque but they need to be oriented correctly to achieve that gain. the extra torque of the motor's pm magnets don't produce any losses in that increased torque production. the magnets do produce other losses but not related to that specific moment of torque produced when they are oriented in a way to do that.

I'm sort of curious where you get this idea?
You get free energy from magnets all the time.
They do work all the time.

Put a magnet on a hunk of steel and hang something on the magnet with a rope. The magnet will stay put long after the rope has rotted away. That's a lot of work and free energy to me. How many times would I need to switch arms when one gets tired? How many meals would I need to eat to keep my arm lifting that object? That's work by any practical definition!

Yes...I know...my definition of work isn't technically correct.

I've messed with pure magnet motors. They use zero electric current and have a stator and armature incorporating magnets. It may surprise you that they can run on their own. The thing to overcome is the magnetic cogging. It is well known that the proper application of iron to a magnet pole can redirect or reduce it significantly. Using this to your advantage, you can create a self running all magnet motor. Magnets can be combined together in specific ways that will create magnetic redirection. This is all well known and documented information. There's not a spinning media hard drive on the planet that does not use these well known principals. Every CDROM drive or motion stabilized camera uses these principals. The more you reduce the magnetic cogging the stronger (more torque) the all magnet motor becomes. My all magnet motors were pretty weak but several did self run. I'm not alone in this. Many people around the world have made all magnet motors that self run and can produce torque. This is NOT perpetual motion. You do have an energy source that creates work.

The reason you never see these motors in use and then are hyped as fake is that anybody that makes one and tries to make it publicly available gets major heat from all the oil and power companies. Those people own the world. The are absolutely 1 billion percent against competition that puts them out of business!!! A motor that runs for 400 years from nothing but magnet power and can generate electricity for the original cost of the magnet motor and generator...well that would certainly put a giant dent in their strangle hold on the world!

Back to magnet cogging...
Unfortunately, you need the interaction of an induced magnetic field on a stator tooth with a magnet pole to make a motor work. Can you eliminate cogging in a BLDC or PMAC motor? I think probably no.

 

[Punx0r]

 

[Ianhill]

Don't tell no one but I have a magnet motor I made it myself but the local wind farm company was not to happy when I started injecting free energy into the grid and sent the heavys round to protect their empire.

Oil sent out a hitman to kill the guy that made a engine run on water too .

Oil forces every electrical motor firm in the world to use inferior technology becuase they are the most powerful force in the universe period, not even skelator gets to use the magnet machine.

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

pretty neat thing this guy made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuiFoq9Y7do
just bump with an electromagnet past the one cogging spot and then reap the rewards of the rest of the rotation. he doesn't show how this rotation is converted to electricity and also doesn't show the back of the machine but for a second.

also he sells super capacitor banks, the one in the video, which have a suspiciously great energy density. In the comments everyone thinks this guy is a genius and he gets huge congratulations. not one person claims bunk.
conspiracies are everywhere these days

 

[John in CR]

no one talking about free energy from magnets but they can be seen as an eternal potential energy sources. they cant do work alone though. similarly to in a motor when powered they greatly enhance the torque but they need to be oriented correctly to achieve that gain. the extra torque of the motor's pm magnets don't produce any losses in that increased torque production. the magnets do produce other losses but not related to that specific moment of torque produced when they are oriented in a way to do that.

I'm sort of curious where you get this idea?
You get free energy from magnets all the time.
They do work all the time.

Put a magnet on a hunk of steel and hang something on the magnet with a rope. The magnet will stay put long after the rope has rotted away. That's a lot of work and free energy to me. How many times would I need to switch arms when one gets tired? How many meals would I need to eat to keep my arm lifting that object? That's work by any practical definition!

Yes...I know...my definition of work isn't technically correct.

I've messed with pure magnet motors. They use zero electric current and have a stator and armature incorporating magnets. It may surprise you that they can run on their own. The thing to overcome is the magnetic cogging. It is well known that the proper application of iron to a magnet pole can redirect or reduce it significantly. Using this to your advantage, you can create a self running all magnet motor. Magnets can be combined together in specific ways that will create magnetic redirection. This is all well known and documented information. There's not a spinning media hard drive on the planet that does not use these well known principals. Every CDROM drive or motion stabilized camera uses these principals. The more you reduce the magnetic cogging the stronger (more torque) the all magnet motor becomes. My all magnet motors were pretty weak but several did self run. I'm not alone in this. Many people around the world have made all magnet motors that self run and can produce torque. This is NOT perpetual motion. You do have an energy source that creates work.

The reason you never see these motors in use and then are hyped as fake is that anybody that makes one and tries to make it publicly available gets major heat from all the oil and power companies. Those people own the world. The are absolutely 1 billion percent against competition that puts them out of business!!! A motor that runs for 400 years from nothing but magnet power and can generate electricity for the original cost of the magnet motor and generator...well that would certainly put a giant dent in their strangle hold on the world!

Back to magnet cogging...
Unfortunately, you need the interaction of an induced magnetic field on a stator tooth with a magnet pole to make a motor work. Can you eliminate cogging in a BLDC or PMAC motor? I think probably no.

ElectricTrump,
How many incorrect statements can you put in a post? If you're not ET, let's see some of these wonderous motors after your modding, including your vehicles they're powering. ET could only manage one of those stand-up scooters despite having a number of quality motors that needed no modding. Since you've been motor modding for years you should have lots of EV's to show for it.

 

[JackFlorey]

Put a magnet on a hunk of steel and hang something on the magnet with a rope. The magnet will stay put long after the rope has rotted away. That's a lot of work and free energy to me.

Nope. I could do the same thing with some nails and wood. No energy required.

How many times would I need to switch arms when one gets tired? How many meals would I need to eat to keep my arm lifting that object? That's work by any practical definition!

I would just nail the thing to the magnet and be done with it. No meals needed. But I fully support your right to stand there forever holding it up if you like.

Yes...I know...my definition of work isn't technically correct.

It's not correct at all.

My all magnet motors were pretty weak but several did self run.

You are deluding yourself.

I'm not alone in this. Many people around the world have made all magnet motors that self run and can produce torque.

They certainly have videos that show that. And the videos work; they have duped hundreds of gullible fools out of their money.

The reason you never see these motors in use and then are hyped as fake is that anybody that makes one and tries to make it publicly available gets major heat from all the oil and power companies.

The reason you never see these motors in use is because they don't exist. Same reason you don't see genies or the Easter bunny.

A motor that runs for 400 years from nothing but magnet power and can generate electricity for the original cost of the magnet motor and generator...well that would certainly put a giant dent in their strangle hold on the world!

So would genies who have gasoline coming out of their butts. But they don't exist either.

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

playing the other side: if all needed to create a strong continuous torque is a reorientation of magnets and that reorientation need not take much energy it seems plausible to dare I say get free energy. not that I believe its been done and not that I believe its necessarily doable, but it seems simple enough. the magnets just needing a twist as they came close to each other. like if had a magnet on a rail with a corkscrew and another magnet half way along the track. that's my best attempt at free energy. if you don't hear from me again you know it works.

 

[flat tire]

playing the other side: if all needed to create a strong continuous torque is a reorientation of magnets and that reorientation need not take much energy it seems plausible to dare I say get free energy.

Yeah it's not plausible in the slightest. If unqualified dunces can think this stuff up today, really smart people would likely have proven it before the petroleum economy was even getting started. And even if not, if some unqualified dunces can build these things and make videos then tons of people all over the world would have replicated the devices and be making free energy. There would be no suppressing that. It would be a scientific discovery on the level of finding ET or proving god.

So would genies who have gasoline coming out of their butts. But they don't exist either.

lmao

 

[JackFlorey]

playing the other side: if all needed to create a strong continuous torque is a reorientation of magnets and that reorientation need not take much energy it seems plausible to dare I say get free energy. not that I believe its been done and not that I believe its necessarily doable, but it seems simple enough. the magnets just needing a twist as they came close to each other.

Lots of things sound like they would work. When I was 13 I figured you could attach a battery to an inverter, then use a step-up transformer (say a 10:1 step-up) and get 10x the amount of energy from the battery. You could even take some of that energy (say 2x) and recharge the battery with it. Seems simple enough. Right?

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

I was pulling chains with the free energy phrase and I know people have researched such things for a long time and it hasn’t happened and it would be profoundly changing on everything if possible. More so wondering why specifically you cant make them work or what’s the REAL best attempts to use pms to do something. Like the magnet slinky or something. Got things that have huge potential energy as they say and the potential ways to orient them and have them interact with other pms or with other forces that could potentially add some great orientation are many and growing with tech. Just seems potential for more purposes. Was only like 50 years ago the hallbach was a thing and in a way it is a new science. complex magnetic interactions can be modeled and new better permanent magnets of different shapes and heat ability are a fast moving tech. I read theoretically they could produce work if they lost their magnetism in the process, but that motor hasn’t been made.

I see a magnet flying towards another magnet and it flips orientation at the right time and it has enough momentum to overcome dare I say cogging torque during the flip and then it’s now being thrown away from the magnet it was earlier coming towards. It just seems the strong force of the magnetic attraction is so strong as to build a momentum that could be spent on a spinning of magnet orientation as it approached the other magnet, and then shot off. That doesn’t sound so far fetched to me. whatever invisible rails or means of twisting the magnet is assumed. I’m sure many have tried. But there’s new wages to try.

 

[Ianhill]

I was pulling chains with the free energy phrase and I know people have researched such things for a long time and it hasn’t happened and it would be profoundly changing on everything if possible. More so wondering why specifically you cant make them work or what’s the REAL best attempts to use pms to do something. Like the magnet slinky or something. Got things that have huge potential energy as they say and the potential ways to orient them and have them interact with other pms or with other forces that could potentially add some great orientation are many and growing with tech. Just seems potential for more purposes. Was only like 50 years ago the hallbach was a thing and in a way it is a new science. complex magnetic interactions can be modeled and new better permanent magnets of different shapes and heat ability are a fast moving tech. I read theoretically they could produce work if they lost their magnetism in the process, but that motor hasn’t been made.

I see a magnet flying towards another magnet and it flips orientation at the right time and it has enough momentum to overcome dare I say cogging torque during the flip and then it’s now being thrown away from the magnet it was earlier coming towards.

When you really think about it on basic terms
N and S attract (opposites poles attract)
N and N repel ( same poles repel)

To get the flip you are talking of energy must be put in to the system normally in the form of a hand that holds the magnet and forces it into a like for like field when we leave go the work we have put in holding the magnet against it's will is released as the magnet flips and repels.

If we could see the field lines of 2 like for like magnets being forced together I imagine it's a bit like spaghetti lines, compressing against eachother forming tighter packed lines and not all totally playing nice a few stray field lines crossing and getting tangled up then as we let go boom the spring back and push on the mass.

The field lines are stationary we must move a conductor across them to create charge so unless you can move them for free 0% losses for a forever freewheel or from how I see it to have any useful work the system would have to be supplying useful watts out of thin air not just spin forever because soon as I tap energy out of that forever flywheel it will slow there's no cheating the laws of thermodynamics.

 

[ElectricGod]

I have to say...wow...look at all the closed mindedness! This is not new. Go ahead and try to make one yourself. That's all I did. The Perendev motor works. The Howard Johnson motor works. These are just 2 designs that if done right self run. So what if people fail to get them to run. That's proof that like Edison they tried many ways and did not yet succeed. What did Edison say? "I didn't fail to make a light bulb. I found 200 ways to not make a light bulb." So what people try and fail. They just haven't figured out how to make their magnet motor design work yet.

I was able to get a model to self run. It was weak as can be, but so what, it did run on it's own. There's lots of videos on youtube of people doing the same thing. I don't need to present any work of my own. Just go look at what they did. And yes there are quite a lot of hoaxes too. I find the hoaxes amusing where people hide a battery or cord or whatever to make their fake whatever run. BUT...not everything is a fake or a gimmick!

I looked into John Bedini and his "over unity" designs. They do work. You will probably fail to get "over unity" on your first few attempts, but, you need to keep trying. You can get his designs to overcome their own losses. I did. You get mechanical energy and bEMF pulses that added together create more energy out than the machine consumes. This IS effectively "over unity". I'm not fond of that term since the narrow minded have cast so many aspersions upon it. I prefer to be more specific and say that the system overcomes its own losses.

What all of these designs have in common is magnetism that is being leveraged to overcome the inherent losses in the system. The magnets don't wear out and unlike a battery, don't lose their "charge" or ability to do potential work. The magnets ARE the key! They ARE doing work. They ARE a vast reservoir of potential work waiting to be tapped! You just need to use their inherent abilities to your advantage and control the magnet poles so they don't interfere where you don't want them to. It's not magic, just takes some planning and design to get self running to work. It's been done many thousands of times. I'm not alone in this.

Call me an idiot if you like. I really don't care. That's just your own closed mindedness speaking. Call me a conspiracy nut or crack pot if you like. Whatever makes you feel good about your inability to be open minded and try something.

What I do like about this conversation, is that while some people spew dogma despite never having tried anything, there are others that question what they have been told and might try things for themselves. Some of them will succeed like I did. Good for them! Go ahead people...give it a shot. How cool would it be if you too succeeded like I did!!!

John Bedini has very easy to make designs. If you can wind an outrunner, you can make one of his motors. Everybody has a couple of SLA batteries stuck away somewhere. If there is one thing I never got around to trying it was using a mosfet instead of a bipolar transistor. This would have reduced the losses even more. My first try ran and sucked. It was far from over unity! My second attempt was a lot better, but still not over unity. A few more tries later, and I had built one that ran from a charged SLA battery and charged a dead flat SLA. I had a toggle switch on it that would let me switch the two batteries from charge to discharge in less than a second. The motor ran for a couple of months...mechanical energy...AND charged and discharged the two SLA batteries. At the time I lacked any reasonable measuring tools to use for measuring real results. There is no way it could alternately charge and discharge 2 SLA batteries AND make a motor run AND overcome its own losses without leveraging magnets to make up the difference. Again...I'm not alone in doing this.

If I made another Bedini motor, I'd use an ALS current sensor at the charging battery to sense charge current. I'd use a mosfet for switching. I'd get rid of the reed switch and use a hall or coil to detect the pulses. The reed switch arcs across its contacts and they eventually fail. It's an eventual failure point in the simple design. What you do get is a simple design that is easy to reproduce yourself. A bit of sophistication to make it bullet proof and more efficient is easily added.

All you narrow minded dogma spewers: Many of you are actually pretty smart people. Go ahead and follow the designs for a John Bedini motor. Give it a try! MAKE one yourself. Expect to fail a few times. Try to be open minded and accept that you don't know everything. Go ahead...see if you can succeed. And who knows, maybe you will have to admit that in fact over unity is possible...since it's not really over unity. You ARE using magnetism to overcome the losses in the system! I'm personally sure it works! I built several Bedini motors and refused to accept the hype and closed minded dogma. Eventually I succeeded to leverage magnetism sufficiently to overcome the system losses.

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

After looking into the Bedini motor I don’t have the slightest belief it works. if they did work the world would be a wildly different place.

It still seems as one magnet pulls toward another the strength and momentum there would be more than the energy to flip one and then having the magnets separate

 

[ElectricGod]

After looking into the Bedini motor I don’t have the slightest belief it works. if they did work the world would be a wildly different place.

It still seems as one magnet pulls toward another the strength and momentum there would be more than the energy to flip one and then having the magnets separate

I explained why that isn't the case. Believe what you like, but every person that publicly announces they have overcome the system losses and are creating more energy than they put into the system, get their asses sued off. The power and gas people have entire floors of lawyers to make the lives of new inventors a living hell. If you know anything about how things work, whoever has the most power always wins...even when they are vile bastards! They will hunt you down! The power and gas companies do NOT tolerate competition that will put them out of business! They will hunt you down and destroy you so your products don't make it to the world!!!

2 magnets of equal strength. They have a fixed amount of force in each magnet. They are attracted to each other with fixed amount of magnetic force. They also repel each other with the same amount of force. You can't get around this. That's just the laws of physics as they apply to magnets.

What you can do and what is done in the Perendev design is to use 3 sets of magnets that work together. It's how I got mine to self run. You always have a magnet reaching full attraction. Another is always leaving attraction and the third is about to start into attraction. The result is as the magnet approaches full traction the other 2 are over coming it's attraction with their own attractive forces. The end result is rotation. It only works with combinations of 3 magnets. The net result is slightly less than 2:1 attraction forces or 2 magnets always overcoming the force of one magnet. It's always in a state of imbalance of 2:1. It does work, but you have to get the magnets set up correctly and you have to deal with the other magnet poles so they don't interfere. This is done with iron on the other magnet poles. Again, this is well known and every spinning hard drive and CDROM drive on the planet uses this effect to control or redirect magnet poles.

Ever hear of magnet switches? They are a great example of magnetic force redirection and control. You will be using these principals to make a Parendev motor and other magnet motor designs.
https://interestingengineering.com/video/build-on-off-switch-for-permanent-magnet

I encourage you to look again at the Bedini motor. I'm telling you I made one that did overcome it's own losses. Go ahead...do more than just look. Build one yourself, be minimally open minded enough to give it a shot! Your belief is based on incomplete information that does not account for what magnets add. Something I never tried was neo magnets in mine. I used ceramics like John Bedini shows in his basic designs.

Other magnet motor designs vary at effectiveness. Ever look at a V gate? They are very easy to make. in less than 20 minutes, you can demonstrate the most basic functionality. It then takes a bit more work to make it self run. It's a poor design, but overcoming the end of each gate is pretty easy with a cam that lifts the magnet away from the V. It then self runs. There's plenty of youtube videos that demonstrate this.

There's a design that uses a flipping magnet to create attraction or repulsion. I have not seen anyone make a very good model of it on youtube . All of the versions have someone turning the flipping magnet manually. They are adding energy to the system. Grrr! However, it's just a ratio between the magnet drum and the flipping magnet. It would not be hard to get that ratio right so the flipping magnet is driven by the drum. I've never built one of these, but that's what I would do. I think it should work if done correctly.

This is a design that uses magnets to create mechanical energy. The wheel is turned by the ball magnet as it tries to roll towards the bar magnet. It's a poor design as is, but it shows that it can overcome it's own losses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQjpSSbQUYE

We call these "clever toys", but what they all have in common is ways to use readily available energy sources like gravity or magnetism to create motion. The only way they self run is by overcoming their own losses. I've never messed with most of the ideas presented in this video. Some I have absolutely no idea how they work. They self run by using gravity or magnets. Can some of them be engineered further into practical and useful energy sources that can power something else? I think the answer is an obvious yes! I have gotten better than unity on my Bedini motors. If I had spent more time on my magnet motors, I bet they too would have been making a decent amount of torque while still self running.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxroTt9IhY

Go ahead and try and overcome your skepticism and closed mindedness. What you are taught is not entirely true. You are not taught to account for the magnets and the force they provide. You probably were never taught that you can control magnet poles. As a result, like most people, you are not accounting for all of the energy sources you have available to you. Magnets are plentiful energy source that can overcome the system losses. I know it's true...since I have used them in this way.

 

[flat tire]

I was able to get a model to self run.

So where's your Nobel prize?

 

[ElectricGod]

I was able to get a model to self run.

So where's your Nobel prize?

That belongs to someone else that got destroyed by the power and gas monopolies! NOT me...I just copied their designs and read the work they present. It's an unfortunate truth that greed and power defines what a lot of people do...even when they are destroying others lives and the planet in the process!

Did you read my last post? I left links to videos and a web site that show you this sort of thing is VERY possible. All you have to do is be open minded and try for yourself...like I did.

 

[spinningmagnets]

My all magnet motors were pretty weak but several did self run

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

The reason you never see these motors in use and then are hyped as fake is that anybody that makes one and tries to make it publicly available gets major heat from all the oil and power companies...every person that publicly announces they have overcome the system losses and are creating more energy than they put into the system, get their asses sued off

Ever hear of magnet switches? They are a great example of magnetic force redirection and control. You will be using these principals to make a Parendev motor and other magnet motor designs.
https://interestingengineering.com/vide ... ent-magnet

Which is it? Either the videos are real, or the oil companies no longer care about magnet motors being made and their exciting designs being spread?

Go ahead and try and overcome your scepticism and closed mindedness

It's not close-mindedness, its experience. I really do want magnet motors to work, even if it's only to charge my phone (are a few paltry milli-amps at 5V too much to ask?). I have a small stepper motor from a large copier, with a bridge rectifier. It needs something to spin it. If I spin it by hand, it actually generates electricity. There are also youtubes of this, but in this case, when you copy the design shown, they always work.

Showing a dozen videos of supposed running magnet devices that make a portion of the device spin is fun. But all of these videos have some of the same faults. The tables they sit on and the devices themselves are not made from clear plastic. Enough of these have been exposed as scams that a "real" device will have a high bar to overcome. But is that bar really so high? An endless line of inventors all claim that their version works, and all you have to do is spend a just a few dollars for their plans. If the device doesn't work for the customer, then obviously the customer did not make and assemble the parts properly, right?

Here's my beef. If I buy a cheap water wheel or wind generator, my poor attempts to properly assemble it may result in low performance, but...it's generally impossible to get the damn things to NOT spin.

Lets pretend for a moment that you are who you say you are. That means you are new in this forum, and you are in Idaho. In spite of being new, you show no awareness of how reasonable it is for the other posters to disbelieve you with no evidence. Hundreds of hobbyists have bought similar kits and have not been able to get them to run, but you alone hold the secret to getting it to spin under its own power (without any oil-company lawyers involved). In fact, your motor spins so robustly, that it can perform work, but...experienced builders who followed the plans precisely were unable to pull that off.

If it only needs a minor reduction of friction, how is the fact that it might be spinning now for about half a minute before stopping, translate into performing work after applying a small load?

What design works the best? Perendev? Bedini? I'd gladly pay $100 for a working desktop demonstrator made from clear plastic from someone who know "how to get them to work". Of course, we'd have to carefully manage the shipping, so the package isn't intercepted by the oil-company lawyers and damaged. Then again, there's no way to ship such a fragile design so that it doesn't get "knocked off kilter" by the shipping gorillas alone (I don't actually fear oil-company lawsuits, but shipping gorillas are real)...

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

I was able to get a model to self run.

So where's your Nobel prize?

That belongs to someone else that got destroyed by the power and gas monopolies! NOT me...I just copied their designs and read the work they present. It's an unfortunate truth that greed and power defines what a lot of people do...even when they are destroying others lives and the planet in the process!

Did you read my last post? I left links to videos and a web site that show you this sort of thing is VERY possible. All you have to do is be open minded and try for yourself...like I did.

You wrote ur measuring tools weren’t very good and I think u must have mis-measured, otherwise why didn’t u make a bigger one and quit your job? Why isn’t it running right now? Those YouTube videos aren’t decent evidence. I’ve an open mind for real evidence. Explaining away how the world can’t develop free energy, with 20$ in parts, because of the oil industry is frustrating to hear. That’s a deeeep powerful conspiracy you believe. At this point ur perpetuating ridiculousness that flies in face of the obvious and because of that it would take a lot more than saying “go make one” or pointing to YouTube videos to convince any reasonable person.

 

[flat tire]

That belongs to someone else that got destroyed by the power and gas monopolies! NOT me...

What I'm getting at is since nobody has been able to convince the scientific community to change their laws of physics, you can be the first since you have what should be an easily repeatable experiment. For that you will not only win a Nobel prize you will be widely declared a genius and hero to humanity, and there will be no putting the free energy cat back in the bag. You will change the world.

Also, if there is really a big conspiracy on behalf of oil and gas sufficient to silence the ENTIRE modern scientific world on the subject of free energy doesn't that mean it would be kind of dumb to come on here and claim that you made a free energy device and probably possess it, while advocate that we should do so as well, even providing instructions?

There is a fundamental lack of critical thinking here. Even if you know nothing about physics.

 

[ElectricGod]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Go look on youtube. There's plenty of evidence for you right there. Do you seriously think every person that posts on youtube is a fruadster? I sure don't! I followed the work of several people that post about magnets and I got self running magnet motors to work. It's all right there if you just look for it.

A magnet switch demonstrates magnetic redirection and control. It is obviously NOT a magnet motor. What a magnet switch presents is the ease of magnetic control that is possible. You need to know about this to make a magnet motor work. I simply presented a very easy to follow example of magnetic control and redirection. It is simply something you need to know how to use.

I have to agree with you about lots of the magnet motors you find on youtube. Lots of people fail to get them to self run. However, look around and you will also see examples of running magnet motors. And of course...and this really annoys me...you will see lots of fakery too.

It's doable. I know it is since I've done it. I don't need to say more about it. I did the research, looked at other peoples work, learned about magnetic pole redirection and control and sure enough...several tries later I was looking at a self running all magnet motor.

What's more, magnet motors are just one example of machines that run from seemingly mundane sources like gravity or static electricity.

I hadn't seen this video before. I was looking for a specific v-gate motor video where the guy used a cam to pull away the driver magnet to overcome the gating effect. Anyway, this guy uses a coil to do the same job. I wonder how well it runs. Does he overcome the system losses? since he has 2 v-gates on the drum, he could add another coil and magnet on the other side to double its torque.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VKH8bgWfnM

In this video, he shows the lobing needed to get past the gate issue. The video I was looking for used a mechanical lobe that pushed the driver magnet away. It self ran using a mechanical lobe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AY64wgvE3U

Unfortunately he never shows the power requirement of his coil and if it ever gets better than self running. He never made the video of using it to generate current. This is pretty common. Maybe he lost interest, maybe he failed...who knows.

Found it! Self running V-gate motor using a lobed cam to circumvent the gating effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus

If you want to learn about building a magnet motor, this guys video series really helped me get mine working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEogsEfFXrg

 

[ElectricGod]

That belongs to someone else that got destroyed by the power and gas monopolies! NOT me...

What I'm getting at is since nobody has been able to convince the scientific community to change their laws of physics, you can be the first since you have what should be an easily repeatable experiment. For that you will not only win a Nobel prize you will be widely declared a genius and hero to humanity, and there will be no putting the free energy cat back in the bag. You will change the world.

Also, if there is really a big conspiracy on behalf of oil and gas sufficient to silence the ENTIRE modern scientific world on the subject of free energy doesn't that mean it would be kind of dumb to come on here and claim that you made a free energy device and probably possess it, while advocate that we should do so as well, even providing instructions?

There is a fundamental lack of critical thinking here. Even if you know nothing about physics.

Dumb...lol...you made me laugh!
Did I present an actual running motor? Did I try to sell one? I'm not on their radar. I told you I built them and presented the information needed so you can too. The LAST thing I want to deal with is a room full of predator lawyers trying to destroy my life when I try to put their employers out of business! And yes several people have been murdered too!

I love that word...conspiracy. It has such a negative slant to it. I have conspired to grill a steak for dinner and eat it! Conspiracies can be good or bad. In the case of the gas and power monopolies, they have a conspiracy to ruthlessly suppress any technology that competes with their power, profit gathering and control. They do NOT want you driving a car that never needs to be refueled or recharged and they will do anything to make sure you never can have one!

I'd have to disagree with you about the scientific community. More than once have devices been presented to "scientific communities" and been tested and shown to be what they were claimed to be. At these events were many people that were scratching their heads, looking at their test gear and in the end admitting the facts before their eyes. It''s then that the device gains notoriety since the scientific community has to get behind the facts. This is when the horde of predatory lawyers swoop in. All they have to do file a suite that your claims are fraudulent and keep dragging you into court over and over again. I don't know about you, but I don't have millions to piss away on a court case! They DO! In the process, the inventor is financially ruined and commonly thrown in jail for fraud despite his innocence!

 

[Hummina Shadeeba]

The YouTube vids aren’t good evidence. If u read the comments it seems there was a sound of a fan blowing the thing around until it was dubbed with music.


How about u make one and show us? Investing like 20$ in parts to make free energy forever seems a good idea anyway no?

 

[spinningmagnets]

I told you I built them and presented the information needed so you can too

Your descriptions are vague, and open enough for enthusiastic followers to "build it wrong", so of course YOU can't be blamed.

What I find fascinating is that you knew before you first posted about this that you were going to refuse to post (in public or private) detailed instructions that work on the first try, though you are adamant that you accomplished it. When asked for this simple detail, you say again "just go to youtube" even though you agree that many of those videos have been faked.

You fear lawsuits and hit men, so...who is the conspiracy theorist here? The magnet motor youtubes have been up for years...no lawsuits there. The record is full of youtubes that have been removed for one reason or another, but you want me to search youtubes for the real method that works? Everyone here posts how to accomplish what they claim, and this has been done for years. We take great pride in having respected co-members prove that the thing we are promoting actually works (peer revue).

You have no idea how much status and credibility you will gain if you simply send detailed instructions that truly work to several members here.

Or, you are promoting something that you know doesn't work, to troll people for whom you have a great distaste for. Watching us take time out from our days to respond to you.

 

[ElectricGod]

The YouTube vids aren’t good evidence. If u read the comments it seems there was a sound of a fan blowing the thing around until it was dubbed with music.


How about u make one and show us? Investing like 20$ in parts to make free energy forever seems a good idea anyway no?

How about I already have. You build one! you HAVE all the information you need!

 

[Ianhill]

Weak.