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100 W
Haven't posted in a bit but this is kind of connected to little bit of everything. Just like posted above.
2nd build, frocked up everything I could in first
that's another story.
So phasor-cycles.com frame, methods HVC/LVC [urlhttp://www.methtek.com/category/battery-protection/][/url]and methods 24 fethttp://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47512, 8s 5800ah zippy compact http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=33182 12 packs for 24s 23.2Ah 100.8v of charger.
Oh I just remembered the name I gave it
The hack job
Ok back to it.
Ice cube custom battery harness http://lipoconnectionsolutions.com/.
Cromotor from zombiess http://greyborgusa.com/
Bad ass downhill components , forks, rear suspension, brakes, motorcycle rim and tires
In short a bad ass mofo
I ride long distances to work 15-30 miles one way. I'd make it on my 1st build 18s20Ah hs3540 Hard tail mountain bike with battery in frame bag, but had to ride conservatively (on 30 mile trip) staying at around 25-30mph. Any faster and I'd be pedaling the last mile or two.
I was looking for more speed, range, comfort, and safety! Though my old bike would ride up to 46mph and built similarly to May 40+ ebikes on ES, I felt and saw that and these constant speeds (closer to 30) the bike was not holding up...
Riding 50 on new bike feels like 30 on old one..
I'm always in a rush cause it travel for work mostly, so time at home is precious especially when I'm leaving for a few months.
And of course one of those times coincides with getting frame and components (SO DONT RUSH or do like me)
100V max on methods controller that what I'm going for
How to fit 100V in frame..hmmm
Most 6s packs don't fit side by side in phasor frame,
Not the biggest problem. There's compacts 5s and other solutions...
That's if I didn't also want to fit in 24 fet controller.
Space is smaller...
So not settling for less than 100V the most ah I could get was with 8s zippy compact packs. Funky placement inside of frame to make work. (In pics)
Using 8s packs meant I needed to use 6 lvc/HVC boards, more wiring.
Also in 8s packs two 4s plugs come out DO NOT PLUG INTO SAME PARALLEL BOARd
They will fry Good thing I ordered extra pack.
And then I fried another just wires though Soldered back up and good to go.
Cabling this that and the other. Fitting fuses, and most off all again because I was leaving town in a day or two and had to ride before then, I could have ordered some 4s extensions and made a bit more room too.
A few more sparks, thanks to meth for loaning me a few extras.
Ok I know it wasn't this smooth but anyways I was riding!!
Fast as hell 56 mph tops up to 17 kW pulls. Yeaaaa!!
Awesome but controller overheats to quickly inside frame, good thing it has 70c shutoff (though it did shut down on me while trying to get over a few lanes... Not pleasant. No good for any long rides even driving conservatively (slow acceleration) once controller warmed up inside frame it would have no way to let out heat.
And then I left for pretty much 4 months...
I'm back. Ok here's the catch. I could just heatsink controller to frame but... For me to get controller out id have to dismantle battery packs lots of wiring to much hassle.
I decided to use fans instead, again project make some more room where there is none... Got three fans in running in series. , yea fried the 4th :-/ Running of cav3 along with rear light with dc plug. Also installed temp sensor on controller
Outside of box by heatsink.
That didn't help much... Found myself having to remove cover of frame anyways to do 15 m trip would have had to even for 5m.
Forgot to mention I over padded inside frame so getting packs in and out literally involved two hands and some body weight. frock it I was in a rush and wasn't changing nothing.
So the nightmare. Last thing I want to do is pull packs out to remove controller from frame And risk more beautiful sparks.
But oh well I guess this is about a week ago.
Dismantled 6 8s packs fans wiring aghhhh (don't overstuff things) to get controller out.
Damn mission, all done (a day of hell later) controller heat sunk to frame 2 fans inside, made some more room using 4s extensions. Things where looking good!
Backing up not so good(how soon the bad is forgotten) after I had battery pack back together in frame packs where pretty balanced. I plugged in bulk charger and HVC breaker wouldn't let it charge... Had bypass breaker which defeats the whole purpose of having it!?!! Ok I'm jumping around.
The good thing is that the heat sink done the job!!M!!!
Whatever solve one problem make another...
Till now I hadn't used ca3 throttle, figured it would be a good time to switch from controller.
Booted up new software and did setup. Throttle set up as well, felt some jumpy ness riding. Put the bike back on sling and tested again. I realized that when fans where on I was getting different throttle V readings. So if fans where on I'd be stopped at 0 throttle and when of wheel would spin.
So stressing over my LVC/HVC not understanding what the hell was happening with fans, I unplugged them. That is a dc jack fed from ca3 100v.
Like a dumbass I didn't cover plug. Wohoooo
more sparks and then more
CA was out blank screen. Throttle jerked for a second and shut down.. It was late at night so I just plugged my CA v2 into ca controller plug, it turned on, and, figured it should work no problem next day.
After emailing ebikes.ca and receiving reply from justin. I decided to get new ca3 shipped, and fix this one later cause I'm in a hurry.
So ca2 isn't responding either...dammit (plus lots of stressing)
Got ca3 1 day later, still nothing
Did some checking everything was working, not so sure about halls... 1 hall burnt
That's when methods came into picture. He helped me a bunch in last 24 hrs
And discovered info that can be useful to all.
When dc jack shorted it also burnt hall, because thermistor was connected using 1 extra hall (cromotor vs 2 has 2 sets)
For everyone whit Ca3 beware of what you plug in and what affect it will have on everything.
Justin said better to stick just to lights.
So fans 2x48V fans in series causes throttle to be erratic, and also screwed with methods HVC breaker. After fans unplugged everything worked again!
Hall is f. Methods walked me through most of the testing, I proceed to open up motor and swap hall. Cool... No!
wrong freekin hall! Hehe. I got my practice in today learnt how to replace 2 halls for the sake of one. Anyways it getting late... More like early. This will evolve. Jb weld is drying will test motor tomorrow. Halls checked with magnet and working. Hope there not sticking to far into stator.....anyways frock It how much worse can it get .... I'm in a hurry!! 8)
Don't have computer working at moment so I will post all build picks I have in Facebook and post link. Coming up
Good night
Fred
2nd build, frocked up everything I could in first
that's another story.So phasor-cycles.com frame, methods HVC/LVC [urlhttp://www.methtek.com/category/battery-protection/][/url]and methods 24 fethttp://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47512, 8s 5800ah zippy compact http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=33182 12 packs for 24s 23.2Ah 100.8v of charger.
Oh I just remembered the name I gave it
The hack job
Ok back to it.
Ice cube custom battery harness http://lipoconnectionsolutions.com/.
Cromotor from zombiess http://greyborgusa.com/
Bad ass downhill components , forks, rear suspension, brakes, motorcycle rim and tires
In short a bad ass mofo
I ride long distances to work 15-30 miles one way. I'd make it on my 1st build 18s20Ah hs3540 Hard tail mountain bike with battery in frame bag, but had to ride conservatively (on 30 mile trip) staying at around 25-30mph. Any faster and I'd be pedaling the last mile or two.
I was looking for more speed, range, comfort, and safety! Though my old bike would ride up to 46mph and built similarly to May 40+ ebikes on ES, I felt and saw that and these constant speeds (closer to 30) the bike was not holding up...
Riding 50 on new bike feels like 30 on old one..
I'm always in a rush cause it travel for work mostly, so time at home is precious especially when I'm leaving for a few months.
And of course one of those times coincides with getting frame and components (SO DONT RUSH or do like me)
100V max on methods controller that what I'm going for
How to fit 100V in frame..hmmm
Most 6s packs don't fit side by side in phasor frame,
Not the biggest problem. There's compacts 5s and other solutions...
That's if I didn't also want to fit in 24 fet controller.
Space is smaller...
So not settling for less than 100V the most ah I could get was with 8s zippy compact packs. Funky placement inside of frame to make work. (In pics)
Using 8s packs meant I needed to use 6 lvc/HVC boards, more wiring.
Also in 8s packs two 4s plugs come out DO NOT PLUG INTO SAME PARALLEL BOARd
They will fry Good thing I ordered extra pack.
And then I fried another just wires though Soldered back up and good to go.
Cabling this that and the other. Fitting fuses, and most off all again because I was leaving town in a day or two and had to ride before then, I could have ordered some 4s extensions and made a bit more room too.
A few more sparks, thanks to meth for loaning me a few extras.
Ok I know it wasn't this smooth but anyways I was riding!!
Fast as hell 56 mph tops up to 17 kW pulls. Yeaaaa!!
Awesome but controller overheats to quickly inside frame, good thing it has 70c shutoff (though it did shut down on me while trying to get over a few lanes... Not pleasant. No good for any long rides even driving conservatively (slow acceleration) once controller warmed up inside frame it would have no way to let out heat.
And then I left for pretty much 4 months...
I'm back. Ok here's the catch. I could just heatsink controller to frame but... For me to get controller out id have to dismantle battery packs lots of wiring to much hassle.
I decided to use fans instead, again project make some more room where there is none... Got three fans in running in series. , yea fried the 4th :-/ Running of cav3 along with rear light with dc plug. Also installed temp sensor on controller
Outside of box by heatsink.
That didn't help much... Found myself having to remove cover of frame anyways to do 15 m trip would have had to even for 5m.
Forgot to mention I over padded inside frame so getting packs in and out literally involved two hands and some body weight. frock it I was in a rush and wasn't changing nothing.
So the nightmare. Last thing I want to do is pull packs out to remove controller from frame And risk more beautiful sparks.
But oh well I guess this is about a week ago.
Dismantled 6 8s packs fans wiring aghhhh (don't overstuff things) to get controller out.
Damn mission, all done (a day of hell later) controller heat sunk to frame 2 fans inside, made some more room using 4s extensions. Things where looking good!
Backing up not so good(how soon the bad is forgotten) after I had battery pack back together in frame packs where pretty balanced. I plugged in bulk charger and HVC breaker wouldn't let it charge... Had bypass breaker which defeats the whole purpose of having it!?!! Ok I'm jumping around.
The good thing is that the heat sink done the job!!M!!!
Whatever solve one problem make another...
Till now I hadn't used ca3 throttle, figured it would be a good time to switch from controller.
Booted up new software and did setup. Throttle set up as well, felt some jumpy ness riding. Put the bike back on sling and tested again. I realized that when fans where on I was getting different throttle V readings. So if fans where on I'd be stopped at 0 throttle and when of wheel would spin.
So stressing over my LVC/HVC not understanding what the hell was happening with fans, I unplugged them. That is a dc jack fed from ca3 100v.
Like a dumbass I didn't cover plug. Wohoooo
more sparks and then more CA was out blank screen. Throttle jerked for a second and shut down.. It was late at night so I just plugged my CA v2 into ca controller plug, it turned on, and, figured it should work no problem next day.
After emailing ebikes.ca and receiving reply from justin. I decided to get new ca3 shipped, and fix this one later cause I'm in a hurry.
So ca2 isn't responding either...dammit (plus lots of stressing)
Got ca3 1 day later, still nothing
Did some checking everything was working, not so sure about halls... 1 hall burnt
That's when methods came into picture. He helped me a bunch in last 24 hrs
And discovered info that can be useful to all.
When dc jack shorted it also burnt hall, because thermistor was connected using 1 extra hall (cromotor vs 2 has 2 sets)
For everyone whit Ca3 beware of what you plug in and what affect it will have on everything.
Justin said better to stick just to lights.
So fans 2x48V fans in series causes throttle to be erratic, and also screwed with methods HVC breaker. After fans unplugged everything worked again!
Hall is f. Methods walked me through most of the testing, I proceed to open up motor and swap hall. Cool... No!
wrong freekin hall! Hehe. I got my practice in today learnt how to replace 2 halls for the sake of one. Anyways it getting late... More like early. This will evolve. Jb weld is drying will test motor tomorrow. Halls checked with magnet and working. Hope there not sticking to far into stator.....anyways frock It how much worse can it get .... I'm in a hurry!! 8)
Don't have computer working at moment so I will post all build picks I have in Facebook and post link. Coming up
Good night
Fred
