Recommend 16s Li-ion SMART bms?

[bmwupgrade]

So I'm in the planning stage of building new pack and time to prep space for BMS. I have VESC controller, which controls discharge, so technically discharge control is not even that much needed, but seems like space allows, so why not... or am I missing some Charge Only BMS benefits over FULL BMS?

I don't find any VESC compatible full BMS on the market at anything under ridiculous amount of money, but also not much needed.. Just need to be able to configure BMS the way I want and check thee condition later on, so BT is perfect.

AliExpress seems like it is full of options but in reality it is only few. here is what I have compiled in 16s 60a capable with 80a at most:

- AntBMS 16s 80-150a charge/discharge 70 x101mm 49usd (BT built in, iOS app, too big temp sensors) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001202028077.html

- jk-bd6a17s6p 60-120a charge/discharge 80 x110mm 68usd (BT build in, IOS app. 32usd GPS + 4G with Cloud service!! good temp sensor )https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001315915241.html

- Daly Smart BMS 16s 60-180a charge/discharge 65 x100mm 72usd (IOS app, BT incl, good temp sensor) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001803913333.html

- JBD li-ion 16s 100-120a charge/discharge 120 x 145 (BT / uart not incl, iOS app monitor only/no control, good temp sensor) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001831386283.html

- ENNOID 18s BMS SS 100a charge/discharge 60 x100mm 200usd (Can for VESC) https://www.ennoid.me/bms/ss

new edit - Tiny BMS s516 - 150A charge/discharge 65 x105mm 200euro+VAT (BT built in, Can for VESC)
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While typing I did alot of research and now we have a list with some important compare points! Am I missing any good BMS in here? please advice if so OR if you have had ANY experience with any of those BMS!

 

[goatman]

i was looking at the 16s 80amp Ant bms and was going to get an active balancer for doing pack maintenance but that second one

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001315915241.html

looks like the same app as the Ant, does 60amp continuous 120 peak, balances through energy transfer, nice find :thumb:

**** but if you read the comments, doesnt sound so good******

went to see if this is the one Vortecks reviewed, first one was DOA and got a second one on warranty

if you look at the cover of the manual, its a JK, timestamped

https://youtu.be/F3UQrpfxa10?t=55

 

[bmwupgrade]

yeah, I'm very interested in that one! It has BT built in, and it has a GPS+SIM card module for 35usd, which allows you to:
- monitor battery remotely
- track battery movement (so like a tracker built into battery, so no thief will find and disable it and won't suspect !)
- you can even remotely disable /lock bms, no power to controller

beside that other aspects seem to fit well. App looks not same as AntBMS - see first link to AntBMS

 

[bmwupgrade]

i was looking at the 16s 80amp Ant bms and was going to get an active balancer for doing pack maintenance but that second one

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001315915241.html

looks like the same app as the Ant, does 60amp continuous 120 peak, balances through energy transfer, nice find :thumb:

**** but if you read the comments, doesnt sound so good******

went to see if this is the one Vortecks reviewed, first one was DOA and got a second one on warranty

if you look at the cover of the manual, its a JK, timestamped

https://youtu.be/F3UQrpfxa10?t=55

no idea, looks like some old version perhaps. looks completely different to that one on my link
- also if anything. Brand took care and delivered him a replacement unit that worked for him fully as expected and actively balanced all the cells.

thanks for the video, didn't research it this way yet

 

[bmwupgrade]

i was looking at the 16s 80amp Ant bms and was going to get an active balancer for doing pack maintenance but that second one

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001315915241.html

looks like the same app as the Ant, does 60amp continuous 120 peak, balances through energy transfer, nice find :thumb:

**** but if you read the comments, doesnt sound so good******

went to see if this is the one Vortecks reviewed, first one was DOA and got a second one on warranty

if you look at the cover of the manual, its a JK, timestamped

https://youtu.be/F3UQrpfxa10?t=55

https://youtu.be/GEOcORlh0w4?t=1006
here is a current version that is sold but higher Series count version / higher current version - too big for me, but same app and averting else
- they fixed the cell number from 00 to 01 as guy in your video was saying

for right now this one looks like the most advance BMS between all of them - I wonder if CAN can work with VESC