Brentis
10 kW
It's a curse really. This place called Endless-sphere.com.
Spend too much time reading and your mind fills with wild ideas of the next build.
Maybe the ultimate build. You can't shake it damnit.
My dream of the ultimate ebike has changed over the years.
I, like most here, really wanted and started building an "illegal" moped disguised as a bicycle. Great fun. Too many crashes and already feeling some longterm effects of said crashes at the ripe old age of 38. I am interested in slowing it down some.
An additional problem I have had with all 5 of the "ebikes" that I've had is that they sit for 3-4 months if your lucky,5-6 if you are very unlucky. I happen to live in a snowbelt in the Great Lakes region. We can have some long shitty winters. Lots of snow and a winter season that sometimes screws with you. Great for winter sport, not so good for ePeds. An aside, we have had 3 non winters by our standards, in the last decade. Unprecedented in my lifetime.
No climate change here.
I cannot keep multiple bikes anymore. I need one ride. One ride that ends all rides.
The King of an ebike. No, the Pope of an ebike. No, the King of Popes of an ebike.
Brownie points if you get that reference. Or until I have a garage again and can keep multiple bikes and the disease can then propagate. At this point I am perfectly happy with our Canadian/Ontario legal 32kph and all but one of the rules. What I cannot live with is the 500w limit. So far 500w has not provided me the torque I desire. I am going to have to be a law breaker.Unless someone can come up with a system of 500watts that can produce around 80-100ft/lbs of torque in a 29.5" wheel.Big torque in a big wheel is going to need a lot more power. With this build I'd like to avoid a 15-25lbs DD hub. I have a Clyte Hs3540 I may be able to use, with some dropout mods, but I want to try as light a wheelset as possible with this build. I thought for the past year that I wanted dual geared motors, likely Macs, that would still be 20lbs of motor but much better weight distribution and the benefit of 2wd, potential. With all the mid direct drive builds recently using BHT, Revolt motors , of course Matts DaVinci drive as well as many others. I can see the benefit of a mid direct drive system. Heck I should have known that. My first ebike, a Schwinn iZip used a left hand drive Currie kit. I liked it, but wanted more torque, better placement of the motor, brushless and of course to lose the lead. Looks like some sort of mid drive will be the route to go for me.
So being addicted to the sphere, needing one bike for all seasons, and willing to mostly stay within the law. I have decided to build an electric FatBike. I cannot afford a Surly bike. An Ice cream Ops is my dream bike. They run $2500'ish on average. There are a few bikes in the.$1000-1500 range, even they are out of my current budget.
Unless you are Canadian, you may not realize that we get screwed on the price of many retail products in comparison to the States. Cars, clothes, food, magazines etc. One of the worst offenders is bikes. Given an equal dollar we pay more. We don't have access to many U.S. based bike shops bikes. They often will not ship here. Parts don't seem to be a problem but shipping complete bikes here is. Seems like there is some sort of trade issue. Speculation on that.
That aside the Loonie has taken a dump versus the greenback. Every deal you Yanks find is now 25% more expensive for us, plus shipping, and potential customs. We just recently got the Mongoose series of Fatbikes sold in U.S. Wallys. Only sold through Canadian Tire. Wally doesn't carry nor ship Mongoose fatties from US to Canada. Being that it is a different retail chain they got rebranded versions. To bad really, I wanted a Dolomite as that is one of my nicknames. These while being BSO are all I could afford in this economic climate. I'll just have to upgrade as I go. Tires and tubes first. One plus for these bikes is the ease with which I can weld brackets to hold say a motor mount or battery compartments to the steel frame.
Rambling over. Pic start.
$30 bucks for disc brakes and 7 speed. No brainer. Plus in my colours, black with red highlights.
I went with the Biggity DLX.
This will be a slow build process, I likely will ride pedal only until spring to see what I can do. I have been pedal biking a lot this spring/summer and would like to keep the weight loss and cardio improvements going. So if you are looking for lots of updates and excitement, look away for now. This will give me the time to see some of the recent mid direct builds develope. A Revolt pro with its low kv and weight and at a reasonable price is the way I am leaning currently, but who knows by the spring what will be available and best sorted out.
As with most box store bikes everything needed attn and adjusting.
I bought a floor model, the sales rep didn't seem to want to track down the one other in stock that was boxed.
If you buy boxed you also don't get the 30 day parts warranty. 30 day warranty? They must really believe in their bikes.
Whom ever assembled this must have been a stoned monkey. For minimum wage what do you expect, a qualified tech?
Brake handles to the bars, no appreciable stopping power. Dérailleur only shifts 5 of 7 gears. One tire at 8 psi the other jacked to the tire max 30psi. How do you sell a person a new bike in such ill repair? Oh ya, price.
I am handy enough that with a couple of YouTube vids I have the dérailleur shifting a champ. The brakes while engaging a locked stationary wheel at half pull, feel spongey. On the street they feel less effective compared to some other cheap mechanical brakes. Hell I liked the feel of my 90mm Sturmey drum better than these. After a complete removal and setup I still have a feeling like the cables are stretching. Can that be a symptom of cheap brake wire? Would Jagwire make a considerable difference? Or do I need more work adjusting?
Everything is tightened and adjusted enough for a ride, then I'll readjust re tighten and see where it's at.
Avid BB7's might be the second upgrade.
I tore the bike apart to get all the pertinent measurements. Didn't get good pics one handed with phone so will have to update on the next tare down.
Here are the key measured stats.
17" steel frame. Most hate one size fits all. At 5'8" with a stumpy 30" inseam, I am that one size. I can even run a LT Thudbuster on this bike. Perfect.
100mm rims. 36h. Alloy. No magnet stick. Can't wait to get the rubber off the rim and get some weights.
26x4" tires spread out to 4.5". Looks like room for more tire, especially in the rear. No manufactures name on tire. That's new to me. Makes you question the quality if they won't even put a name on it.
100mm BB.
135mm fork spacing.
190mm rear dropout.
I'm assuming the same as the Mongoose Dolomite. Anyone measured their Dolomite personally?
Will keep updated as development proceeds.
Spend too much time reading and your mind fills with wild ideas of the next build.
Maybe the ultimate build. You can't shake it damnit.
My dream of the ultimate ebike has changed over the years.
I, like most here, really wanted and started building an "illegal" moped disguised as a bicycle. Great fun. Too many crashes and already feeling some longterm effects of said crashes at the ripe old age of 38. I am interested in slowing it down some.
An additional problem I have had with all 5 of the "ebikes" that I've had is that they sit for 3-4 months if your lucky,5-6 if you are very unlucky. I happen to live in a snowbelt in the Great Lakes region. We can have some long shitty winters. Lots of snow and a winter season that sometimes screws with you. Great for winter sport, not so good for ePeds. An aside, we have had 3 non winters by our standards, in the last decade. Unprecedented in my lifetime.
No climate change here.
I cannot keep multiple bikes anymore. I need one ride. One ride that ends all rides.
The King of an ebike. No, the Pope of an ebike. No, the King of Popes of an ebike.
Brownie points if you get that reference. Or until I have a garage again and can keep multiple bikes and the disease can then propagate. At this point I am perfectly happy with our Canadian/Ontario legal 32kph and all but one of the rules. What I cannot live with is the 500w limit. So far 500w has not provided me the torque I desire. I am going to have to be a law breaker.Unless someone can come up with a system of 500watts that can produce around 80-100ft/lbs of torque in a 29.5" wheel.Big torque in a big wheel is going to need a lot more power. With this build I'd like to avoid a 15-25lbs DD hub. I have a Clyte Hs3540 I may be able to use, with some dropout mods, but I want to try as light a wheelset as possible with this build. I thought for the past year that I wanted dual geared motors, likely Macs, that would still be 20lbs of motor but much better weight distribution and the benefit of 2wd, potential. With all the mid direct drive builds recently using BHT, Revolt motors , of course Matts DaVinci drive as well as many others. I can see the benefit of a mid direct drive system. Heck I should have known that. My first ebike, a Schwinn iZip used a left hand drive Currie kit. I liked it, but wanted more torque, better placement of the motor, brushless and of course to lose the lead. Looks like some sort of mid drive will be the route to go for me.
So being addicted to the sphere, needing one bike for all seasons, and willing to mostly stay within the law. I have decided to build an electric FatBike. I cannot afford a Surly bike. An Ice cream Ops is my dream bike. They run $2500'ish on average. There are a few bikes in the.$1000-1500 range, even they are out of my current budget.
Unless you are Canadian, you may not realize that we get screwed on the price of many retail products in comparison to the States. Cars, clothes, food, magazines etc. One of the worst offenders is bikes. Given an equal dollar we pay more. We don't have access to many U.S. based bike shops bikes. They often will not ship here. Parts don't seem to be a problem but shipping complete bikes here is. Seems like there is some sort of trade issue. Speculation on that.
That aside the Loonie has taken a dump versus the greenback. Every deal you Yanks find is now 25% more expensive for us, plus shipping, and potential customs. We just recently got the Mongoose series of Fatbikes sold in U.S. Wallys. Only sold through Canadian Tire. Wally doesn't carry nor ship Mongoose fatties from US to Canada. Being that it is a different retail chain they got rebranded versions. To bad really, I wanted a Dolomite as that is one of my nicknames. These while being BSO are all I could afford in this economic climate. I'll just have to upgrade as I go. Tires and tubes first. One plus for these bikes is the ease with which I can weld brackets to hold say a motor mount or battery compartments to the steel frame.
Rambling over. Pic start.
$30 bucks for disc brakes and 7 speed. No brainer. Plus in my colours, black with red highlights.
I went with the Biggity DLX.
This will be a slow build process, I likely will ride pedal only until spring to see what I can do. I have been pedal biking a lot this spring/summer and would like to keep the weight loss and cardio improvements going. So if you are looking for lots of updates and excitement, look away for now. This will give me the time to see some of the recent mid direct builds develope. A Revolt pro with its low kv and weight and at a reasonable price is the way I am leaning currently, but who knows by the spring what will be available and best sorted out.
As with most box store bikes everything needed attn and adjusting.
I bought a floor model, the sales rep didn't seem to want to track down the one other in stock that was boxed.
If you buy boxed you also don't get the 30 day parts warranty. 30 day warranty? They must really believe in their bikes.
Whom ever assembled this must have been a stoned monkey. For minimum wage what do you expect, a qualified tech?
Brake handles to the bars, no appreciable stopping power. Dérailleur only shifts 5 of 7 gears. One tire at 8 psi the other jacked to the tire max 30psi. How do you sell a person a new bike in such ill repair? Oh ya, price.
I am handy enough that with a couple of YouTube vids I have the dérailleur shifting a champ. The brakes while engaging a locked stationary wheel at half pull, feel spongey. On the street they feel less effective compared to some other cheap mechanical brakes. Hell I liked the feel of my 90mm Sturmey drum better than these. After a complete removal and setup I still have a feeling like the cables are stretching. Can that be a symptom of cheap brake wire? Would Jagwire make a considerable difference? Or do I need more work adjusting?
Everything is tightened and adjusted enough for a ride, then I'll readjust re tighten and see where it's at.
Avid BB7's might be the second upgrade.
I tore the bike apart to get all the pertinent measurements. Didn't get good pics one handed with phone so will have to update on the next tare down.
Here are the key measured stats.
17" steel frame. Most hate one size fits all. At 5'8" with a stumpy 30" inseam, I am that one size. I can even run a LT Thudbuster on this bike. Perfect.
100mm rims. 36h. Alloy. No magnet stick. Can't wait to get the rubber off the rim and get some weights.
26x4" tires spread out to 4.5". Looks like room for more tire, especially in the rear. No manufactures name on tire. That's new to me. Makes you question the quality if they won't even put a name on it.
100mm BB.
135mm fork spacing.
190mm rear dropout.
I'm assuming the same as the Mongoose Dolomite. Anyone measured their Dolomite personally?
Will keep updated as development proceeds.
. Running 18s (3 x 6s 16ah hk lipo) with a 80a foc controller now but have a 200a foc controller to swap in. 
. The low end being a bike assembled in the U.S. A bike imported to the U.S. from Taiwan/China complete, say a new Trek or Giant then sold here, would be subject to those high duty percentages. I assume to save the domestic bike shops new bike sales. As without, you could buy the same bike in the U.S. and ship for much cheaper. That would eliminate the dealer networks here. Especially when we had our petrodollar equal. Taxes, well I can't avoid those either way.
