Source for 16" front-wheel hub kits?
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Chalo
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BMS Battery has Q100, Q85, and Q75 kits available with 16" front wheel as an option. They are cheap, but they won't do 1000W.
Golden Motor lists their Magic Pie motor in a 16" front version with cast wheel (no spokes). But it isn't as cheap as the stuff you're talking about.
Actually using 1000W of motor power on a 16" front bicycle wheel is both terrifying and foolhardy. I hope that's not your intention and that you want the wheel for some other purpose.
The problem with your idea, other than you hurting yourself, is that a 16" wheel's rim is only 12" in diameter at the tire bead, whereas most 1000W rated direct drive hubs are close to 10" in diameter. There's no way to reconcile the spoke holes with that arrangement. That's why the 16" Magic Pie comes with a cast wheel.
Golden Motor lists their Magic Pie motor in a 16" front version with cast wheel (no spokes). But it isn't as cheap as the stuff you're talking about.
Actually using 1000W of motor power on a 16" front bicycle wheel is both terrifying and foolhardy. I hope that's not your intention and that you want the wheel for some other purpose.
The problem with your idea, other than you hurting yourself, is that a 16" wheel's rim is only 12" in diameter at the tire bead, whereas most 1000W rated direct drive hubs are close to 10" in diameter. There's no way to reconcile the spoke holes with that arrangement. That's why the 16" Magic Pie comes with a cast wheel.
Rassy
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Back about a decade ago I purchased a Bafang geared hub motor from J.R.Holmes, laced into a 16" wheel for use on a Bob trailer. I don't remember the lacing pattern. It was used for several years on a friends Bob trailer and is currently waiting to be used on another friends one wheel pusher trailer. May or may not happen, but I'm visiting him tomorrow if you are curious about the lacing pattern. This unit is a slow wind (for a 26" wheel) and tops out about 15MPH with a 20 amp controller and a 48V Ping battery, so about 1000 Watts available. It was used on a 20% grade and did a good job.
I also ended up with an extra Wilderness Energly BD36 and purchased a set of spokes from WE that allowed me to radially lace the hub motor into a 16" wheel. That unit is still in use today on a one wheel pusher trailer for a friend's hand cycle. It pushes his trike over 20 MPH. The little original controller is rated over 30 amps and he is using a 48V ping, so about 1500 Watts available.
I also ended up with an extra Wilderness Energly BD36 and purchased a set of spokes from WE that allowed me to radially lace the hub motor into a 16" wheel. That unit is still in use today on a one wheel pusher trailer for a friend's hand cycle. It pushes his trike over 20 MPH. The little original controller is rated over 30 amps and he is using a 48V ping, so about 1500 Watts available.
Chalo said:
Actually I am considering building this into a "kick scooter" with 26" front and 16" rear. So it will actually be in the rear. Just not geared. Thank you for your concern. Technically I would guess anything above 350w would be sufficient.
Chalo
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09Klr650 said:
The 16" front Magic Pie would definitely be my choice for that application.
I've wished for a hub motor big enough to mount a 16" tire right on the hub flanges without a rim. Such a hub would hypothetically also fit 12" scooter tires.
Dauntless
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They call these scooter hubs.
http://m.leafbike.com/mobile/products.php?CateId=77&CateId=86
http://m.leafbike.com/mobile/products.php?CateId=77&CateId=86
Chalo
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Those Leaf motors look really good for the price. I think they'll be my first resort in the unlikely case I need to find a high powered front 16 inch hub motor wheel.
The kick scooter I plan on experimenting with has reviews that the deck is a little too high. I may try using a 14" rear and 24" front instead to fix that. Given the shipping costs I see on many of these sites adding a second hub/wheel set makes sense, even if I do not plan on powering the front on a typical day. Does anyone make a dual motor speed controller that allows you to program differential outputs? That is, not equal? Like "70% rear/30% front" or "rear until x%, then add front"? Thanks.
Chalo
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09Klr650 said:
Don't think so. But two cheapie controllers will work fine running from one throttle input, as long as the unloaded tread speeds of the wheels are relatively similar.
wturber
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Dauntless said:
If I ever want to kill myself by electrifying my Dahon and riding it too fast, those 1000 Watt motors seem like just the ticket. :^)
