Stans No Tube Sealant.. anything better?

[NeilP]

Just wondering if anyone uses any form of sealant in their tyres and if so , what?

Have been using Stans No Tube's in my tubes for a while now, but always find it eventually dries up into a ball inside the tube and throws the wheel well off balance

 

[melodious]

There was a thread about this last week that got alot of response from vets here. The general consensus I got was that at higher mechanical torqueing forces on the wheels on tubeless systems was asking for trouble. Worst case scenario was the tire would slip off the rim and massive burping would ensue, then loss of control. At high speeds this is bad. It may be adequate for anything below 25mph. Some here have had reliability doing it tubeless at lesser speeds.

 

[Paul_G]

I had the same problem with Stans and have tried them all and found one that works with a tube 100%

Mr. Tuffy Tire Sealer - 8 oz. Bottle buts its hard to find except on line or Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004V4I4L8/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

The green crap is just that.....crap

 

[MadRhino]

I use this one, I keep the smaller bottle and a CO2 tire filler in the bike tool kit for quick repair and it does the job.
Then, I never ride a slimed tube very long. Most of the time I set new tire and tube on the bike very soon after.

 

[chroot]

Other day I was in Dublin cycle shop (LBS), They told me not worth put Stans No tube sealant in the tube and best way use patch as act temporary till you get to home then replace it.

I never had flat tire on my Tidalforce ebike, I am using heavy duty tube (very thick), Mr Tuffy tube liners and Hookworms or CST Cyclop tires. I commute to my work daily on dirty trail, pavement road, bad road and etc.

 

[NeilP]

Apart from the balling issue, I find it very good. No flats at all since putting it in, it just keeps you going.

Unfortunately I use my bike as pretty much every day transport and when I get a call to get to work, I have to be there within 30 minutes or so. Stopping to repair a tube on a wheel that you can't remove without being in a full workshop is not an option.

But thinking of a patch repair as temporary is just the bike shops trying to sell you more of tubes. A proper repair last as long as the rest of the tube.

i too use tyre liners, HD tubes and in the last 7000 miles, the only tyres I have foudn to lst have been Crazy Bobs, every other MTB tyre just splits at the side wall.

I'''' try some of the Mr. Tuffy Tire Sealer if I can get anyone to send me some

 

[Drunkskunk]

In 2007 I put Slime in my oldest Ebike wheel. Temps in my garage can hit 140 in the summer, and we've had temps down in the 10degree range here in the last couple years. So far, that tire has remained flat free and no balling up or drying out.

 

[NeilP]

I have a mate that is in Chicago at the moment, so I just sent him a mail to see if he can get me some of the Mr Tuffy.
Can't seem to see it on the UK Amazon site.

 

[NeilP]

There was a thread about this last week that got alot of response from vets here. The general consensus I got was that at higher mechanical torqueing forces on the wheels on tubeless systems was asking for trouble. Worst case scenario was the tire would slip off the rim and massive burping would ensue, then loss of control. At high speeds this is bad. It may be adequate for anything below 25mph. Some here have had reliability doing it tubeless at lesser speeds.

Sorry, was not using it tubeless..had not actually considered doing a bike tyre tubeless. Just been using this stuff since a year or more ago, it was recommended on the forum here as a good tube sealant

 

[Punx0r]

Any automotive slime should do you?

I've been using some random pink stuff and it works pretty well.

 

[full-throttle]

Just wondering if anyone uses any form of sealant in their tyres and if so , what?

Have been using Stans No Tube's in my tubes for a while now, but always find it eventually dries up into a ball inside the tube and throws the wheel well off balance

lol The point of Stan' No Tubes is to have NO TUBES
It's not a tube sealant, it's a tubeless conversion sealant

 

[NeilP]

lol The point of Stan' No Tubes is to have NO TUBES
It's not a tube sealant, it's a tubeless conversion sealant

Yes, I realise that, but

[ Just been using this stuff since a year or more ago, it was recommended on the forum here as a good tube sealant

tried it and it worked well. ....apart from this balling issue.. So wanted feedback on better stuff. I know there is a lot of others out there for tubes , some good some poor

 

[melodious]

Now I'm curious. Is the balling coming from the latex combining with the talc powder in the tube

 

[NeilP]

Possible i suppose. How would you tell?

 

[melodious]

Not sure. That's why I'm curious :wink:

 

[melodious]

That cauliflower effect is from the liquid drying out over time. This effect may be hastened by the talc powder in the tube (that's my theory, don't bet on it). Your tube is about a year old. From what little I've read on "using stans no tube sealant in innertubes" google search, a few comments were made about the cauliflowers showing themselves up after over a years use. :|

 

[amberwolf]

More info:

http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=%22stans%22&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=%22stan%27s%22&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=slime&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=tuffy&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=tube*+sealant*&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

 

[DAND214]

Stans no tubes is for no tubes as they say. buddy uses it but takes the tires off every race and washes it out or it dries out after time.

I have had good luck with titre SLIME for TIRES not tubes. It;s thicker and has lumps in it so plugs holes faster. Still won't do squat for pinch or spoke holes.

dan

 

[aroundqube]

I had to replace a 622mm x 2.20 inner tube. The only tube the shop stocked was the Slime brand pre-filled tube with Presta valve. What a mistake ! No flats in 3 years, but the slime cloggs the valve core. I can not check the tire pressure,nor add air, without slowly removing the core to wash the Slime out of it.

 

[Ricky_nz]

I just removed my hookworms and tubes off my bike to put different tyres on. I had one large dose of Joes 'no flats' in them for over a year. A few small punctures obviously sealed and one tube had a small piece of steel wire still sticking out of it. it had been holding 50PSI LOL. There still seems to be some liquid sealent in the tubes and no obvious lumps. Not cutting them open because the tubes are still usable as spares.

 

[bowlofsalad]

I imagine that if you remove the valve core and flush out the inner tube of talc powder before putting in things like stans tire sealant you may have better results. I don't know if something like vinegar, water or whatever would be better for rinsing the inner tube out, but I am sure even just plain water rinsing would be better than nothing. It also seems that these tire sealants dry up over time, which seem to be an issue. My imagination suggests that the talc powder would indeed simply absorb more moisture and accelerate this drying effect. My suggestion, after rinsing the talc out, is to add a little fluid to the mix or don't do a perfect job ringing out the inner tube after the last rinse. The extra fluid might prevent the sealant from drying up. Maybe once a month or two or so, you might inject some fluid (I don't know if water, some kind of anti-freeze or something else would be better) into the inner tube to prevent it from drying out. http://www.amazon.com/Stans-Tubes-2-Ounce-Sealant-Injector/dp/B001GSKL4A/ This might be the tool I'd use to inject fluid. Instead of pure fluid, maybe you'd use a 50/50 mix of fluid and sealant when you add more, I don't know what would and wouldn't work, this is just an inexperienced guess.

 

[NeilP]

yea, neat idea....the sealant always tends to ball up to a big lump, as you say probably due to the talc inside. a good wash maybe the answer

 

[John in CR]

Neil, since you absolutely have to rely on tires, then get real tires instead of these bandaid approachs. You have a motor so a few more pounds is irrelevant, so it's time to step up to moto tires. Some nice thin 21's will give you real tires, real brakes, no flats, and sized about like a 26" bike wheel.

 

[NeilP]

well since going to the Crazy Bob tyres and kevlar liners I had no issues. 50m miles or more..no probe..
the new bike...one it ever gets finished...does have moto tyres...butr that bike my never get finished...just too many other jobs]

Oh..BTW that chap I messagfed you about...seems sound enough ...if a little opinionated