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Suggest someone other than Hobbyking

DogDipstick said:
HK return policy is what sells lipos. I have seen alot of people get iffy results and they always make good.

Sending known to be faulty rc lipo via any common carrier is likely to be against the law, and if it isn't, it should be...and people worry about exceeding 20mph ebike speed limits. :confused:
 
John in CR said:
Sending known to be faulty rc lipo via any common carrier is likely to be against the law, and if it isn't, it should be...and people worry about exceeding 20mph ebike speed limits. :confused:

Never mind being :confused: about why people are concerned about exceeding the 20mph ebike speed limit.
People are more concerned about a stupid arbitrary wattage number. Example, UK'ers are freakishly frightened of exceeding 251W like they are going to be sent to the clinker after a bout with the local judiciary magistrate upon the bobbies sight of a hub motor. :roll: I mean I guess if they are riding around on a Enduro ebike with pedals, and a 5kw hub doing wheelies in front of the bobbies and doing stupid things, yeah them bobbies would be putting down their donuts for some colorful paper writing to hand out.
 
John in CR said:
... While I love automotive grade modules, when can be even easier to assemble than a pack made of RC lipo,
. You are of course exaggerating !
Several times, i have picked up stock RC bricks and used then to power various. different voltage Ebikes simply with the use of different pre-made harness...all within a matter of minutes....
Those same 5S RC bricks also serve to power various cordless hand tools (Drill/drivers, blowers, strimmer, stic vac, etc).
.... RC lipo is so bad that someone risks criminal negligence if they own them while living in multi-family housing....
Either that is the least known regulation,... or the most ignored, !. Much like ebike power restrictions and speed limits.
Most of us realise the danger with RC lipo is in its lack. Of built in protection..BMS etc, and the “abilities” (or lack of))...of its users. some of my HK bricks are near 10 yrs old, still working, a few others have had individual cells die ?.....but they are then easily recycled into 4 s. Or 3 s bricks !! :wink:
 
John in CR said:
There are sources for smaller format modules of cells.
Links please. I can't say that I spent an extensive amount of time searching, but my local search results amounted to very little. I'd consider importing, but who to trust and what to buy...
 
Hillhater said:
John in CR said:
... While I love automotive grade modules, when can be even easier to assemble than a pack made of RC lipo,
. You are of course exaggerating !
Several times, i have picked up stock RC bricks and used then to power various. different voltage Ebikes simply with the use of different pre-made harness...all within a matter of minutes....
Those same 5S RC bricks also serve to power various cordless hand tools (Drill/drivers, blowers, strimmer, stic vac, etc).
.... RC lipo is so bad that someone risks criminal negligence if they own them while living in multi-family housing....
Either that is the least known regulation,... or the most ignored, !. Much like ebike power restrictions and speed limits.
Most of us realise the danger with RC lipo is in its lack. Of built in protection..BMS etc, and the “abilities” (or lack of))...of its users. some of my HK bricks are near 10 yrs old, still working, a few others have had individual cells die ?.....but they are then easily recycled into 4 s. Or 3 s bricks !! :wink:

Not exaggerating at all. I had 2 ebike that I just undid a nut at the + and - terminals of the factory battery module and used a pre-charge resistor to connect the battery leads from the controller. One has been in service over a year and the other almost 3 years without ever being disconnected or requiring balancing and they remain +/- 0.005V (I just checked yesterday since it had been over 6 months since my last check.). I also use some bolt together automotive cells on bikes with similar results. Those do require a bit more work bolting them together along with factoring in compression plates at the faces of the ends of both strings, but of course so do RC lipo packs. Plus if you factor in all the fiddling with checking and balancing your precious RC lipo flame bricks that cost 2-3 times as much per kwh even before considering another doubling or tripling in cost over the long term due to shorter service life.

Here's what a brand new and unused 4s hardpack looked like about 30 days after arrival without being touched other than to check balance on day 1. Luckily I didn't trust RC lipo at the time, and stored the 20 packs I received on a concrete floor well spaced from each other. Otherwise our guest house that I used for work and storage would have surely burned to the ground.
Burst Lipo C.JPG
 
HK12K said:
John in CR said:
There are sources for smaller format modules of cells.
Links please. I can't say that I spent an extensive amount of time searching, but my local search results amounted to very little. I'd consider importing, but who to trust and what to buy...

Ebay...Endless-Sphere for sale section are 2 prime examples. Finding batteries requires effort.
 
So I hop on over to HobbyKing this am to find they've canceled my order and issued me store credit despite telling them I wanted to wait until the packs came back in stock. Then they jacked the price from $96.83 per pack to $158.54.

Seriously, what the hell?

Contacted customer service, again...

Me: I placed an order for some lipos out of the Hong Kong warehouse which turned out to be out of stock. Last time I spoke with customer service I was under the impression that the batteries would be shipped when they were back in stock but this morning I noticed the order was marked complete and a store credit issued. (And the listed price per pack nearly doubled). I am wondering if these batteries will automatically ship to me at the originally agreed upon price or if will be up to me to reorder using the store credit at whatever new price hobbyking chooses?

Them: It will be up to you to reorder it using the store credit.

... Order cancelled, refund in progress. Good customer service, but unbelievably bad business practices.
 
Hillhater said:
HK12K said:
... Order cancelled, refund in progress. Good customer service, but unbelievably bad business practices.
I suspect everyone in Hong Kong has some much bigger issues on their mind at the moment ! :shock:

That's not really the point. In my world if you make a business agreement you do what you can to live up to it, especially when the failing is your businesses fault. You don't take a customers money to use for your own purposes for an indeterminate amount of time without living up to the original terms of the agreement. You especially don't tell them that you'll send it as soon as it comes in and then cancel the order and leave them with store credit the following day after making that agreement. They gave me the option and couldn't even live up to that much.

I'm not too torn up about the packs being unexpectedly backordered, but frankly I'm insulted that they would handle all of this in a way which is effectively an F-U to someone who just placed a $600 order.
 
So business ethics go out the window?

Having to wait is one thing, actively screwing me over is another matter entirely.

We'll just tell you whatever you want to hear and you can send us another 50% of what we had already agreed upon when we actually have what we already sold to you. Not even a thanks for the interest free short term loan. Right.
 
I don't know how good they are now, but in the past I've had good luck with dx.com Must have ordered from them 6+ times and never been screwed yet.
 
Got my refund this morning. Of course they kept the $50 shipping fee, because that's how they roll.

It's supposedly processing, separately for some reason, but something tells me it won't hit my account without more legwork on my end. Guess we'll see.
 
HK12K said:
Got my refund this morning. Of course they kept the $50 shipping fee, because that's how they roll.

It's supposedly processing, separately for some reason, but something tells me it won't hit my account with more legwork on my end. Guess we'll see.

You should get that $50 back, stir up a stink with your payment provider, paypal, credit card. Because they never shipped nuffin.
 
John in CR said:
Here's what a brand new and unused 4s hardpack looked like about 30 days after arrival without being touched other than to check balance on day 1. Luckily I didn't trust RC lipo at the time, and stored the 20 packs I received on a concrete floor well spaced from each other. Otherwise our guest house that I used for work and storage would have surely burned to the ground.
Burst Lipo C.JPG

You dodged a bullet.

M
 
MJSfoto1956 said:
John in CR said:
Here's what a brand new and unused 4s hardpack looked like about 30 days after arrival without being touched other than to check balance on day 1. Luckily I didn't trust RC lipo at the time, and stored the 20 packs I received on a concrete floor well spaced from each other. Otherwise our guest house that I used for work and storage would have surely burned to the ground.
Burst Lipo C.JPG

You dodged a bullet.

M

Would that be a 4mm bullet or a 5.5mm bullet or a HV 6.5mm bullet?
 
markz said:
You should get that $50 back, stir up a stink with your payment provider, paypal, credit card. Because they never shipped nuffin.

I'm going to give it a couple more days and if I don't see it that's exactly what I'll end up doing.
 
I selected from the Hong Kong warehouse and this is what came up for shipping options, see picture below.
Basically its $80cdn worth of 10 sets of XT90's and 5m Silicone Wire

I'm not purchasing but I just wanted to see what the options were for shipping from Hong Kong warehouse. With your experience, China's annexation of Hong Kong and the China Kung Flu Virus, I will find alternative places to purchase from.

I haven't been able to find any flexible wire like Hobby Kings silicone wire locally, aside from expensive hobby stores. I just saw PM Hobby Craft locally wants $12cdn for two Female XT90's, so thats $12cdn for one set (M+F) of XT90. Same store I bought the last of their 10awg for $3 or $4/ft, but the guy gave me a deal. I wouldnt want to know how much the hobby story sells Lipo's for.



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Now American warehouse prices


Lots of inventory is sold out for NA warehouses.
Similar $80 cart, wire xt90, Fed Ex is the only option $50
 
I guess my options were limited to just FedEx or UPS because of dangerous goods reasons.

I'm in the same boat for wire, ended up taking a shot on Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32886653513.html

We'll see how that goes, haha.

Edit: Got the refund for shipping this morning.
 
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