Pharther Phurther said:
Now I found more info ... and another reason this situation arisen.
Here is the link: http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=28510
One EBK owner posts: "I was surprised at the low quality of the connecters on my ebike kit"
and "I have personally seen 3 friend's Ebikes break down on rides due to loose / bad connectors."
So I was able to find others whom had the same original problem ..
The new kits look like they have solved these issues. Too bad the new EBK connectors are not available to experiment with .. although I prefer locking ones .. such as this :
Gordo: Opening the part ( controller ) up "VOIDS" the warrantee .. EBK policy.
No schematic is definably a no-no.
How many basic installers will have a situation if any company .. not just EBK .. provides the wrong or no info about this problem? More than just me .. I am sure.
And what is the cost of that Amphenol style connector? 2 or 3 X the cost of the the throttle? Our throttles cost $9, thumb or twist.
Who cares about the value of warranty on a $30 controller? Forget the warranty, it is normally worthless, as the cost of shipping exceeds the cost of the part. I was suggesting to open the throttle and look at the colours on the HALL legs. After you fried the first one, not after 3 or 4.
In hindsight, if anyone at EBK had 1/2 a brain they would have changed the plug for you, knowing what you had to begin with.
Until the re-sellers of this Chinese junk adopt a NA Standard of colour codes and Andersons, for EVERYTHING, and don't buy components until they meet specs, we are going to go through this over and over. Because our e-bike re-sellers are so small and inexperienced, they take anything that is shipped and just pass it on to the customer. Connectors that melt, "we will take it up with the manufacturers". Batteries that fail, "We are getting better cells now." They mark this stuff up enough (they hope) to cover failures and survive. You, the customer are the QC.
Try, as we have, selling lumber to these fellows and see what happens. They specify the size of 150mm +/- .000, and then reject it because it shrunk in the heat or grew because of moisture in transit. They specify the moisture content at 8% or less, and then claim after it gets wet in transit and the moisture content has increased. We have been educated in a very different manner. This will continue to be our downfall until we change.
Most e-bikers are too young to know that this is how products from Japan were at first, with IC motorcycles, cars and everything else. The next wave of junk came from South Korea. Now if you want a good e-bike battery, you specify made in Japan or Korea. Even with that, Dewalt and Mikita just double the price of a tool pack and give you a free one if it fails in 12 months.
Because we are such a tiny e-bike market compared to their domestic market, I have my doubts any colour/plug standard will ever be adopted. They have no incentive.