Transmitter for bike's handlebar

kubasky

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Hello,

Could you please help me out with Rx/Tx purchase. Where I can find (Europe preferred) a transmitter (wired or wireless) that could be mounted and used on bike's handlebar?

I use ESC and brushless engine with LiPo.

I find neither an RC car nor plane ones suitable for this purpose.

Thanks in advance.

*Apologies if this topic had been posted already, looked everywhere and still no clue :(

Rgds
K
 
Correct, just for a throttle.

However brushless technology requires an electronic device rather than a simple switch to be connected to ESC :? .
 
Beetbocks made a really nice handlebar mounted kick scooter throttle/brake for use with RC components.
http://endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=55997
 
A wireless throttle is not a good idea. Need I go into detail why it isn't. Think sitting at a stop light with cars zooming by at 60 mph. Now think of rfi. Do it quick because you might be dead in a few seconds.
 
I'm building a scooter/kickbike and will be using a wireless throttle.
I will use a digital 2.4ghz wireless controls I designed and sold for R/C car racing.
Haven't got to the throttle yet, but if you don't find any good off-the-shelf solution,
might be able to help. Idea is transmitter using hall-effect input, and just xmit the voltage level
to the reciever, which does a pwm output to duplicate the voltage level as input to the speed control.
As I will have my own speed control, I can just use the wireless input directly.

I did this setup for a wireless throttle on an electric outboard I built, but heck if I know where that code is anymore,
so will have to redo it.

Using analog 450 Mhz r/c controls would be a bad idea, they are notoriously noisy.
With a fail-safe digital signal, you really can't get false input.
 
While I agree this is a 'Bad Idea(tm)' - there are ways that are safer than others. And I sorta agree that a wireless throttle for a longboard would be more rad (and one could argue safer) than a long, wired controller of 'one size fits all' length and prone to folding. Annnnnyway...

Use a complicated radio protocol.
That may seem counter intuitive, but the ISM bands which these things will be using are really noisy (especially around electromagnets :)) and you'll want a failsafe that's rather specific (and encrypted if used in 'groups' (a gaggle?) or sold at scale). This takes up a bit more computation to perform but are done in hardware 'for free' in most chips like TI's chipcon, Digikeys Xbee, and the ilk...and you can even use good ole TCP/IP with a microcontroller like the MSP430 w/ a chipcon radio built in for a less than the cost of a hamburger.

When 'over complicating' it with a MSP430 you can also do things like smooth the throttle signal to offset noise, a crappy quality potentiometer, or smooth a signal from an 'on/off' button into something usable as a 'throttle', and even prevent wheelies (or hold them). It's just some extra code to add 'later', once you have a working throttle.

Additionally, you'll want more features eventually (haptic feedback, battery level, etc), other things to talk to (garage door opener, other cyclists, etc) and ways to prioritize packets. Things you won't be able to do as easily with a basic 'point to point, serial replacement' protocol.

If you really want to do this, here are some things you should buy:
- a usb->serial (FTDI cable) if you don't have one already.
- A pair of 'Xbee S2 radios' or you can get two msp430s+radio from TI's website for free.
- A 'throttle input' whether that be a thumb throttle you stole from something or a bare bones switch or potentiometer.
- the connectors between devices (usually a 2.54mm or .1" spaced pin on the microcontroller side).

high level steps of how to build it:
- establish a basic 'hello world' example that blinks lights wirelessly (or wired, if you still want that).
- Next add a few lines to make it blink at different intervals.
- Once that works, read up on PWM. Sleep. Read it again.
- Dump some code in to handle the PWM math.
- Make it spin a motor the ESC's PWM input on your bench.
- Celebrate!
- Think about and implement some safety failsafes and limits for a 'test run'.
- Test on the bike/board. Don't die.
- Celebrate! Go faster.
- Iterate on that idea over and over.

Should you go this route, I'll happily offer any help depending on what step you are at.

Edit - Also you might wish to consider Bluetooth LE - as integration into phones is a bit less hassle than rooting and using a harness on your Android phone. Again, this is more of a consideration if the end goal is mass sales.
 
Hi Guys and thanks for replies

As for now (until my bike concept is fully tested) have bought the following 'throttle' for 10€

neodym_servo_tester.jpg



Will see how it fits my needs :lol:


Additionally, I am planning to connect the engine to the highest gear (largest sprocket) on a bike's rear wheel, via bike chain. I imagine it works just fine as a supporter. Do you think it may do the work? Forgive me if it's an abstractive idea, but I am a rookie who just switched from RC flying into electric vehicle adaptaions :oops:
 
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