Ultracapacitor

Doctorbass

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Interesting for Wh/kg!!---showed as Wg/g in this graph.. but that give 2500Wh/kg at 1000W of power !!!.. if peukert effect exist with those we could easyly imagine using 1kg of these pack at 1000W continuous for an hour!!! :shock:


on the pics on this article:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/business/20060608-9999-1b8maxwell.html


We can imagine they are around 200g each so 5 of those would cost 200$
200$ for 1kg=1000W continuous for an hour!!! :shock:

2.5Vx5=12.5Vx3=37.5V for a total of 600$ would give 3000W continuous!
and maybe 100km range at 30wh/km at 1000W of power!!

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and now a test prototype for a dewalt drill... yess the dewalt again!..

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT/2003/7000/7720eichenberg.html

Today, the company has reduced the price of a 2.5-volt, 2,600-farad ultracapacitor by a factor of 10, from roughly $400 to about $40 apiece
...

Maybe the V28 or the A123 will have a little battle with those!.. who know?....

I am dreaming?...

Doc
 
Doctorbass said:
Interesting for Wh/kg!!---showed as Wg/g in this graph.. but that give 2500Wh/kg at 1000W of power !!!.. if peukert effect exist with those we could easyly imagine using 1kg of these pack at 1000W continuous for an hour!!! :shock:

It is missprint.

Doctorbass said:
Today, the company has reduced the price of a 2.5-volt, 2,600-farad ultracapacitor by a factor of 10, from roughly $400 to about $40 apiece
...

Maybe the V28 or the A123 will have a little battle with those!.. who know?....

I am dreaming?...

Doc

Show me where we can buy it for $40 a piece ?

Maybe at 100K units negociated contract.
 
You haven't read the article i posted ... just click on the link i gave and see the text on left of the pic with the caps and a guy.
 
Doctorbass said:
You haven't read the article i posted ... just click on the link i gave and see the text on left of the pic with the caps and a guy.

Yeah
I've read it. It is a marketing move - advertising.
Real prices for end user are much much higher.

$100 a piece, maybe a little less.

Show me the shop if i'm wrong. Article don't sell anything.
 
I have some small Maxwell ultracapacitors I got as a FREE engineering sample many years ago when they first came out. B.S. does pay off sometimes :D

If the pricing and performance in the article are true, then it will make capacitors more attractive in the future.

In the past versions, a very large, expensive capacitor would supply enough juice to run a bike motor for about 30 seconds. I'm wondering how practical these new models would be. Certainly capacitors have a tremendous cycle and calendar life. They should last practically forever.

One problem with capacitors is the voltage steadily drops as they are discharged, so either you need a wide range dc-dc converter or you just use a fraction of the total stored energy and stop discharging at half voltage or so.
 
fechter said:
One problem with capacitors is the voltage steadily drops as they are discharged, so either you need a wide range dc-dc converter or you just use a fraction of the total stored energy and stop discharging at half voltage or so.

I forgot that thing :?

I know that Rockford Forsgate, a car audio brand use those in their must powerfull amplifier. The T15K, a 4 x 1000W amplifier able to produce a burst of 10 second ofo 15kW :shock: these caps are used by the amp to supply the big amount of current whenlarge transient in music are played, like low bass freq...

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/prod...y_id=24&item_id=105829&locale=en_US&p_status=

T15kW_3_l.jpg


Doc
 
:arrow: Check this out...

What an interesting control panel design for a speedometer, ultracapacitor charge level and battery charge level.

I like the design... very elegant and practical... :p


http://www.afstrinity.com/press-images.htm
 

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LOL, T-Rex is from http://qwantz.com.

This is the full comic in question:

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The "daaaaaaaaaamn" thing is a running joke from a previous comic.

I just clipped off the last panel because it comes in handy for situations like this.
 
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