waste of time. don't bother.

[The Mighty Volt]

If it looks too good to be true, then it is.

I find it ironic that Johb/Michael/Plasma Boy Jr/NovemberSierra is in here trying to talk about good character and a group buy.

Talented kid, but unreliable and threatening. Not interested.

 

[ohzee]

If it looks too good to be true, then it is.

I find it ironic that Johb/Michael/Plasma Boy Jr/NovemberSierra is in here trying to talk about good character and a group buy.

Talented kid, but unreliable and threatening. Not interested.

Did not Doctorbass do a Canadian group buy for 175 of these cells and prove they were the real deal ?

I need to quit reading this thread it just confuses me ;P Still I will report in next week when mine show up.

 

[Anonymous]

I honestly Don't know. the only thing I suggest is contacting xin wang directly, this is an individual purchase (ie every man for himself) to secure these cells. good luck

My first question is that how this cell come to China from Korea. There is high imported tax in China. Also the cost of korea manufacture is high. I think we must know why $19 otherwise it will be a large risk.
A123 does not prove any sales in China. Onliy cylinder a123 are manufacture in China but they don't sell them in China. Anyway, there are B grade cells which are leaking from a123 factory. Some menbers here have ever asked us if we can provide cylinder A123 cell to them, we know a shenzhen company and they confirmed they are b grade which is 85-90% capacity. For a small RC, that may still be ok. But as capacity and internal resistance of cells are different, a battery pack with these a123 cells will not as stable as pack with official cells. BMS balance cells on basic of good match cells.

I will wonder if korea a123 factory are shipping them as Industrial waste(all failed cells which includes all kind of reasons during capacity and internal resistance testing and match) to China. If so, tax issue will be solved and it can also indicate why korea a123 will sell them in such a low cost . Some of them still can be used and will be select out for sale.
Please just consider my point as one kind of guess as we don't involve in this business. Only people inside will clearly know.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

If it looks too good to be true, then it is.

I find it ironic that Johb/Michael/Plasma Boy Jr/NovemberSierra is in here trying to talk about good character and a group buy.

Talented kid, but unreliable and threatening. Not interested.

Did not Doctorbass do a Canadian group buy for 175 of these cells and prove they were the real deal ?

I need to quit reading this thread it just confuses me ;P Still I will report in next week when mine show up.

I am not arguing the veracity or the quality of the cells per se- I am merely shedding some light on the nature of the character of the OP.

 

[Anonymous]

well .. should I say 'The Mighty Volt' or Traolach, what have you got against advertising xin wang? .. anyhow, good cells all around, I gained by buying 40 of them last week for a car build and am waiting to try them, i shared the information to everybody to share the goodness of EV battery cells... notice how I've been campaigning to get someone responsible (not you) to run the show... you on the other hand, are sour because you had plans to buy these and sell them on for profit, sorry i ruined your selling opportunity. I want people to use these cells.

If it looks too good to be true, then it is.
I am merely shedding some light on the nature of the character of the OP.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

Sorry Nader, you are wrong. Once I realized that they were of dubious character, like yourself, I gave them a miss. Nobody here can be 100% sure of what they are getting. Its no wonder you fell out with PayPal. Nobody trusts you. You try to hawk rubbish for top dollar, you threaten forum members and the forum itself, you think nothing of invading privacy, you are sham. You're a talented bright guy, all the less need therefore for the thuggery.

If I can't trust the supplier, then I won't sell to the other forumites. The only stuff I plan to sell is the stuff I make and test myself.


I am irresponsible? I didn't try to sell a fireball A123 pack that was half-ruined by acid flux, did I??

I am irresponsible?? I didn't try to sell a Wal-Mart bike with a shite Briggs motor and the aforementioned A123 pack for £2600, did I??

I am irresponsible? I didn't spam the controller thread and then make threats, did I??

YOU are irresponsible.

 

[Anonymous]

you're sangesf aren't you...you're a scammer. nice try. I know one when I see one. now quit trying to ruin the reputation of perfectly good cells, so you can sell your own instead! god... this forum is filled with sellers who'll lie to get money.. whatever Traolach. Run along now and quit trying to go one up, all i've seen in this thread so far was

1) mavizen (trying to mudsling)
2) the mighty volt (again, mudslinging)

These seem to be perfectly good cells after all, given all the mudslinging they're receiving they must be a pretty big threat.

Sorry Nader, you are wrong. Once I realized that they were of dubious character, like yourself, I gave them a miss. Nobody here can be 100% sure of what they are getting. Its no wonder you fell out with PayPal. Nobody trusts you. You try to hawk rubbish for top dollar, you threaten forum members and the forum itself, you think nothing of invading privacy, you are sham. You're a talented bright guy, all the less need therefore for the thuggery.

If I can't trust the supplier, then I won't sell to the other forumites. The only stuff I plan to sell is the stuff I make and test myself.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

"Pasadena" as he was calling himself at one point.

http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29335&p=423499&hilit=A123+goot#p423499


Yes. You are not a scammer. Oh no. Not at all.

 

[Anonymous]

you're a scammer trying to rob people of information because you're upset i posted good info on good cells to stop you from selling your own lol, is that why you're bitching? anyway, Traolach Kaye, people, buy these cells they seem to be the real deal.

"Pasadena" as he was calling himself at one point.

http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29335&p=423499&hilit=A123+goot#p423499


Yes. You are not a scammer. Oh no. Not at all.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

you're sangesf aren't you...you're a scammer. nice try. I know one when I see one. now quit trying to ruin the reputation of perfectly good cells, so you can sell your own instead! god... this forum is filled with sellers who'll lie to get money.. whatever Traolach. Run along now and quit trying to go one up, all i've seen in this thread so far was

1) mavizen (trying to mudsling)
2) the mighty volt (again, mudslinging)

These seem to be perfectly good cells after all, given all the mudslinging they're receiving they must be a pretty big threat.

Sorry Nader, you are wrong. Once I realized that they were of dubious character, like yourself, I gave them a miss. Nobody here can be 100% sure of what they are getting. Its no wonder you fell out with PayPal. Nobody trusts you. You try to hawk rubbish for top dollar, you threaten forum members and the forum itself, you think nothing of invading privacy, you are sham. You're a talented bright guy, all the less need therefore for the thuggery.

If I can't trust the supplier, then I won't sell to the other forumites. The only stuff I plan to sell is the stuff I make and test myself.

This isn't mud. This is GOOT!!!

http://www.endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29335&p=423499&hilit=A123+goot#p423499

Pasadena/SilverRich/NovemberSierra78 etc etc etc etc.

 

[Anonymous]

The Mighty Volt aka 'sangesf'...stop trying to ruin this thread and go away please

 

[The Mighty Volt]

Didn't Sangesf have problems with PayPal, like you do??? Coincidence? I should think not.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

Remember silverrich may be sangesf (not sure)

As you guys sort out the battery group buy, FWIW it appears the IP's of the two above are coming from different continents.

SilverRich is in the United Kingdom, he used to post here as Pasadena/John/Michael/Novembersierra78 and whatever other name he could think of. He has a persecution complex that would look out of place in Coptic Egypt. If he comes clean and admits to being who he is, and who I know him to be- and what I know him to be- then maybe, just maybe, he can reform his wayward ways and win back some trust. Not bloody likely though.

 

[Anonymous]

listen, sangesf, you tried to rip people off, you gave the money back, now... you come here into this thread and start trying to stop a europe individual buy, what gives? cant you just leave a123 cells alone? what is wrong with you? you need to talk to someone

Didn't Sangesf have problems with PayPal, like you do??? Coincidence? I should think not.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

listen, sangesf, you tried to rip people off, you gave the money back, now... you come here into this thread and start trying to stop a europe individual buy, what gives? cant you just leave a123 cells alone? what is wrong with you? you need to talk to someone

Didn't Sangesf have problems with PayPal, like you do??? Coincidence? I should think not.

I am talking to you punk. Of course, that assumes you are a "someone", which you are not.

 

[Anonymous]

'Sangesf' Aka 'The Mighty Volt' how long have you had this second account? what good will it do you to spoil these cell's image now that you're not trusted? yeah..that's what i thought.

listen, sangesf, you tried to rip people off, you gave the money back, now... you come here into this thread and start trying to stop a europe individual buy, what gives? cant you just leave a123 cells alone? what is wrong with you? you need to talk to someone

Didn't Sangesf have problems with PayPal, like you do??? Coincidence? I should think not.

I am talking to you punk. Of course, that assumes you are a "someone", which you are not.

 

[The Mighty Volt]

My work is done here. Shouldn't have thought old NovemberSierra would have too many people coming in with him for a group buy now.

Go hack a facebook account, Ali-Akbar!

 

[Ypedal]

alright.. enough with the puppet show and accusasions... i closed all reports on this thread and am leaving it unlocked.. what is, is, and what was , was... either way let's please drop this whole dramafest and stick to ebike related constructive discussions..

 

[Monstarr]

*Jheesshh*, is there a Europe group buy coming soon or whaaat?

 

[Anonymous]

There's no need for a group buy, go back, you can buy these at 40p difference if you contact xin wang direct. she replies instantly, good cells apparently, but we'll see in a couple of months, they look the part.

*Jheesshh*, is there a Europe group buy coming soon or whaaat?

 

[ohzee]

my 20 cells show up Thursday from Xin. I wont do near as a good job others do , but I will give my experiences with the cells.

 

[Monstarr]

Alright, i'll wait for your tests.

 

[ohzee]

Alright, i'll wait for your tests.

I edited my post - my cells arrive Thursday not Tuesday (today) sorry.

On vacation now so not even home.

 

[davec]

i'd really love to know where their getting these cells from and what the real deal is with these
that way we could put all doubts to rest
it appears that vict -also sells other types of batteries so it's still all a question mark- maybe someone has the formula to make a123 knock offs- or these are leaks from a factory---it would be nice to know

 

[pgt400]

I've tested 4 of mine so far, no question they are BRAND NEW....I am doing 2C tests with a CBA-III, got 18.2, 18.4, 18.4, 18.1 AH stopping at 2.5v (which is more like 2.7 since std CBA doesn't consider test lead losses). I'm going to compare 1 to a 2P Headway 10ah pack later.