Wh/mile/km usage

miro13car

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I am just wondering what is your Wh/mile, or for Canadians Wh/km usage on normal summer day around 20C/40F day on flat road?
I get very consistent 10.5 Wh/km on my TidalForce, mostly flat with one between 5and % grade uphill 100m long.
If I take diffent route without this hill I get almost exactely 10Wh/km.
I am 67kg, 150imperial pounds?
MC
 
Last Thursday I was late for work so opened'r up the whole way and at the top of my commute I'd averaged 92wh/mi. :shock: My average speed only increased from my usual ~17mph to ~22mph. I usually average around 45-50wh/mi so to gain 5mph avg speed almost doubled my power usage. Ugh.
 
When I was testing my GM at 96v-84v nominal i was consuming every bit of 60-65wh a mile lol. I was riding like a bat out of hell. When i wanna go for range i can drop that down to 10 or 15 but thats slo pokin around between 15 avg.
 
My recumbent runs consistantly at 13.5 wh per mile at 20mph (flat ground, no pedalling). At 30mph that increases to about 21 wh per mile. At 40mph, it is 28 wh per mile.

Matt
 
11-12 wh/mile on small to moderate hills, 18-20 mph, constant moderate pedalling.

20-21 wh/mile NO pedalling on generally flat terrain, 18-20 mph. Have not tried no pedal test at full throttle or on bigger hills yet.

Bill
 
I must be fluffy... not fat get it right lol. Im kinda jealous then I look at the reported speed and im like ok I understand speed is a WH hog. With the extra voltage and speed all i can imagine in my mind is that my controller is dry humping my battery behind my back... Technically it is doing exactly that where its mounted... Thats my humor for the hour. I cant see how so many people are content with 20-25mph or less. I guess im in that phase where since the misses wont let me have a motorcycle. I gotta live my dreams through my bike lol.
 
My average is consistantly about 11 wh/km.

Lots of stop & go traffic, an average of 30km range per day.
 
Just cruising around on a 40km ride, I usually consume around 6-7wh/km at probably an average speed of 20km hour or less. This is at 36v with a 17amp controller and pedaling.
 
My average is somewhere in the 30-50wh/mi range, but varies drastically. Sure taking the kids to school or otherwise intentionally riding conservatively can dip into the 20-30wh range, but my attitude is that I have plenty of batteries that will age more with time than my usage, and electricity costs pennies compared to gas. I don't have a commute at all, much less some fixed commute for which I try to stretch my batteries, which btw will significantly shorten their life. I also have the opinion that battery tech will continue to advance just like it has in the recent past as exhibited by the 50%+ decrease in lithium battery prices in the last year alone, and researchers report that 10x capacity and power per unit volume have been achieved in the lab.

On top of the expectation that prices will decrease and power will increase, consider that I have over 7kwh of lithium batteries good for several years of service since my mileage is fairly limited. Wouldn't you ride your bike as fast and hard as possible? My bikes will do 50mph+ with a long straight, but due to short range trips and traffic I average under 30mph, and the jackrabbit type riding make my brake pads the only fast wearing things on my bikes.

Did I mention that I weigh 240lb, so the fast start and faster stop riding uses lots of juice compared to a typical 170lb cyclist gone electric. Also I'm up just above eye level of the smokers, so I don't get the aero benefit of the recumbent riders.

Unless you're trying to squeeze every last penny out of your ride, and are either trying to add lots of pedal assist OR are trying to build a high performance electric motorcycle, WHAT REAL DIFFERENCE DOES WH/MILE MAKE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME. If you're worried about pinching pennies or maximizing performance, all you have to do is wait a few months and the numbers look better. If you're more in the middle, then just get what you can afford and fit for now, ride like a bat out of hell, and be patient for the really good stuff coming down the pipe at a far cheaper per wh price.

John
 
Around 25 wh/mi on the Tricruiser. The new trike may be better cause it's got a whole bunch of gears, but it weighs about the same so the performance will probably be pretty close. I try to stay below 20 mph on the city streets and parks that we ride in.
otherDoc
 
I'm a bosch fatpack! :lol: This morning on my commute I decided to pedal assist as hard as I could the whole time and conserve battery to see how much difference I actually make climbing the mountain to work. I used 331wh - 44wh/mi, which shaved about 80-90wh off the commute vs barely any pedaling... essentially I output as much as a single Bosch fatpack over the course of 30 min or so. :shock: The lesson I learned is that I can sure get in shape doing this if I want to... or I can sip my coffee and not bother pedaling at all. Gooo ebiking! :wink: :lol:
 
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