Seriously stealthy ebike

MikeSSS

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https://www.goatbikes.com/section811599.html

The link is to page explaining how the system works. This is for factory bikes, not conversions.

Not a recommendation, just info about something interesting.
 
Yes works as an assist was Millie meant for people cheating on Road bike with hidden battery meaning you must pedal and you must pedal hard is just an advantage for a cheater like someone who plays poker with a card up their sleeve not much just enough just don't get caught.
Get one and impress your neighbor off as you can go on your road bike cheating.
Not enough power for most of us.
 
Some further reading is available, as Vivax / Gruber Assist has been talked about a few times:

by thread title
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=gruber&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sr=topics&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=vivax*&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=titleonly&sr=topics&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


by anything in the post
https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=gruber%2A+-matt+-keto+-greger+-food+-colin

https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=vivax*&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search


https://endless-sphere.com/forums/search.php?keywords=vivax*+gruber*&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
 
That thing can only give you an extra 100W of assist power, such a waste of money, time and effort. It's really taking it to the extreme, and is meant for cheating in races, or fooling your Lycra buddies/adversaries.

The ultimate stealth ebike is any rear hub motor, hidden behind rear rack pannier bags, with the controller and battery inside the rear bags. You could very easily get away with a MXUS/QS 3kw or 5kw hub motor camouflaged black on black on black on black.

But, if you wanted to spend more money then the store bought ebikes are stealthy enough as I'd bet the majority of people really wouldnt have a clue a Levo is an ebike. But to save money, even a smaller mid drive like a BBSHD (vs larger Cyclone 3-4kw) would suffice, if you are wanting stealth, then black on black is the only way to go, water bottle batteries are an option, shark batteries would do too. Depends on what the atmosphere is like in the community that you ride in, like how NYC was cracking down on delivery ebikes, I would do rear hub/pannier and just do a lot of fake pedaling.
 
The Gruber assist was made for cheating :D

There is still a conversion kit available, but it doesn’t fit on many bikes. You need to buy a bike for the kit. Some had made them completely invisible, with batteries inside the tubes. They lost popularity after some racer got caught. Vivax had bought the patent from Gruber, and offer a few fully built bikes.
 
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