Best sort of frame for a mid drive?

[A-DamW]

"dick breaks is always betah"

 

[Guerney]

Good enough is good enough, but rim brakes have bigger rotors, better heat capacity, more cooling surface area, and more configuration variables to work with. Almost everyone who says "dick breaks is always betah" hasn't even tried to sort out the rim brakes they already had, let alone upgrading, before coming to that conclusion. It's like saying stainless steel refrigerators are always better because your new one is better than the wheezing 40 year old beige one in your first rental apartment.

When wheels are true and rim brake pads not too worn, well adjusted rim brakes stop my bike very effectively - it's a right pain adjusting them when replacing pads, so I bought these hoping to simply unclip and slide new pads in, rather than have to adjust all over again. I haven't got around to trying them yet, but am hoping they'll save a little time. I bet they wear away even faster, the pad inserts are thinner.

 

[biphaeboh]

Well then you're doing rim brakes wrong. My current >30 mph e-bike has a BB7 with 180mm rotor and fully metallic pads in the rear, which is totally satisfactory albeit a little noisy. It has a $20 long arm linear pull brake in the front, no booster arch but with Kool Stop Salmon pads. The front brake is stronger, quieter, more linear and sensitive, with better feel. Same levers for both (Snafu Ultimate).

If I wanted the front brake even better, I could use Kool Stop E-bike pads and a booster arch. If I wanted the rear disc better, I could... talk myself out of it?

Good enough is good enough, but rim brakes have bigger rotors, better heat capacity, more cooling surface area, and more configuration variables to work with. Almost everyone who says "dick breaks is always betah" hasn't even tried to sort out the rim brakes they already had, let alone upgrading, before coming to that conclusion. It's like saying stainless steel refrigerators are always better because your new one is better than the wheezing 40 year old beige one in your first rental apartment.

I'm with Chalo. The best brakes I ever had were XTR V brakes on ceramic rims. Thorn Nomad, would have made a great ebike, but its long gone.
Current bikes have TRP Spyke mechanical disks, and Shimano hydraulic which are okay, but I like less. I'd be perfectly happy with a decent V brake,
Cantilevers are okay too.

 

[krusty]

Well then you're doing rim brakes wrong. My current >30 mph e-bike has a BB7 with 180mm rotor and fully metallic pads in the rear, which is totally satisfactory albeit a little noisy. It has a $20 long arm linear pull brake in the front, no booster arch but with Kool Stop Salmon pads. The front brake is stronger, quieter, more linear and sensitive, with better feel. Same levers for both (Snafu Ultimate).

If I wanted the front brake even better, I could use Kool Stop E-bike pads and a booster arch. If I wanted the rear disc better, I could... talk myself out of it?

Good enough is good enough, but rim brakes have bigger rotors, better heat capacity, more cooling surface area, and more configuration variables to work with. Almost everyone who says "dick breaks is always betah" hasn't even tried to sort out the rim brakes they already had, let alone upgrading, before coming to that conclusion. It's like saying stainless steel refrigerators are always better because your new one is better than the wheezing 40 year old beige one in your first rental apartment.

Well, we just have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying rim brakes don't do anything: after all, like everyone else that's all I rode from the 70s til the early '00s (except I had coaster brakes a few times; that was always a hoot!) And surely rim brake technology has improved in the last 20 years with better pads and rim surfaces and whatnot. But for my part, I'll be sticking with discs only...well, at least until we develop super-powerful regen brakes or anti-acceleration fields or something better!

 

[biphaeboh]

Well, we just have to agree to disagree. I'm not saying rim brakes don't do anything: after all, like everyone else that's all I rode from the 70s til the early '00s (except I had coaster brakes a few times; that was always a hoot!) And surely rim brake technology has improved in the last 20 years with better pads and rim surfaces and whatnot. But for my part, I'll be sticking with discs only...well, at least until we develop super-powerful regen brakes or anti-acceleration fields or something better!

Sure. I'm not into internet arguments, and its good to get different perspectives.

 

[BicycleJoe]

I'm a little late to this discussion but I have to say: rim brakes are not effective in damp sub-freezing conditions. I have bikes w/ rim brakes. I love and respect their effectiveness but don't kid yourself, the reason all proper cars and motorcycles and bicycles have disk brakes is because they save lives.

I've melted the frozen water off my rims on many rides, only to have ice covered braking surface a little while later. The rim brake is too large and plowing through the slop. You can build up heat in a disc brake rapidly and have less drama...

 

[clarke]

Hi I was wondering if I can use a 22a controller instead off a 25a

 

[harrisonpatm]

Hi I was wondering if I can use a 22a controller instead off a 25a

Might be best to start your own thread, with more details of your build, rather than a random open-ended question in an unrelated thread.