Daymak Road Warrior Help

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I am currently trying to figure out what batteries I can use with my Daymak Road Warrior.

I'm unsure if the connectors are the same or what I can do to make this 3rd party battery work.

Daymak is nearly useless is trying to help service the bike from over the phone, I currently have no service center near me.

Normal Daymak Lithium battery

After market Lithium battery
 
Welcome!

Nice, you got a DIY friendly prebuilt scooter ( rare )
That looks like it has a charge port and a discharge port.. that's a standard battery.. so you could use almost whatever.

I wouldn't buy just any battery off amazon.. get one with known good internal construction.. with name brand cells.. low quality batteries are known to be dangerous, fire risk wise.. for a few hundred bucks you could most likely avoid a massive fire down the road with a battery this big.. that's cheap insurance.

More information why you shouldn't buy a super cheap pack and look for quality instead here:
Grin’s perspective of Ebike fires
 
You might want to read reviews for all versions of a product page before considering products to buy. These are the reviews on the amazon.com page (vs amazon.ca); I didn't look at other versions but getting any bad reviews like these are a pretty bad sign. (aside from random amazon, ebay, ali* etc sellers rarely being trustworthy)


  • Chris Akins

    1.0 out of 5 stars DO NOT BUY!!!

    Reviewed in the United States on December 4, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    They claim their product is a 72v 20 ah battery with good cells but once taken apart because of not working issue I found out that whoever built this battery took more time to pack foam and all kinds of junk inside to make the battery look a lot bigger than it actually is in all reality the battery is not even a quarter of what they claim and the cells they used cannot even be found anywhere on the Internet do not waste your money on this piece of junk product!! I would give it zero stars but it wouldn’t let me!
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  • freidun sediki

    2.0 out of 5 stars Good and bad

    Reviewed in the United States on October 25, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    Good because it is 72v but very low usage times, and it’s very hard to return
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  • Numa Martinez

    3.0 out of 5 stars Okay so far…

    Reviewed in the United States on January 1, 2025
    Color: 72v 30ahVerified Purchase
    The box the battery came in had holes and was damaged and the pvc cover on the battery it self was damaged the xt90 connector had looked like it had been used and burnt , the product pictured a wire with a tx90 and it did not come with this wire causing me to have to order this wire dispite this over all it is and okay battery it came at 74 volts i will be reaching out to this company about this issue
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  • Alberto

    5.0 out of 5 stars FAcil de usar

    Reviewed in the United States on November 24, 2024
    Color: 72v 40ahVerified Purchase
    El articulo llegoen tiempo, fue muy facil su instalacion, lo recomiendo mucho este vendedor.
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  • Bridges

    1.0 out of 5 stars JUNK.

    Reviewed in the United States on September 21, 2024
    Color: 72v 40ahVerified Purchase
    I ordered this for my family in Cuba and was trusting it would work because I knew it was not going to be refundable and shipped back from Cuba to do so anyway if it did not work. It Did not last 30 minutes at half throttle. As shown in the photos it’s encased in like a plastic cardboard material. It is an embarrassing cheap design and don’t know why any manufacturer would be ok with junk leaving their factory. I don’t know how any seller would want their name on a garbage product. Honestly despicable. Now I’ve basically thrown $500 in the trash.
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  • Kevin batts

    1.0 out of 5 stars Did not last a month

    Reviewed in the United States on August 5, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    Did not last a month losing power completely
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I am currently trying to figure out what batteries I can use with my Daymak Road Warrior.

I'm unsure if the connectors are the same or what I can do to make this 3rd party battery work.
What is the reason to change the battery?

Is there a problem with the original? If so, what specifically is going on, and when did it start, and what happened just before it started? (not all apparent battery problems actually *are* battery problems).

Are you trying to increase range? Speed? Some other thing?

Etc.

Knowing these things may help us help you find the appropriate replacement.


Regarding connectors: seeing what you *actually have* on your actual MC for the charge port and the discharge (system, controller, etc) port should help us help you find a battery with the right connectors (or a place that will install the ones you need, and let us give you the right terminology to tell them what to put on there).



Just as an aside, you might want to consider *why* the generic products such as the one you linked from amazon cost a third of what that one does. ;)

Most of the time the cost is not just to make more money--it's often because the cells / bms / interconnects / etc are better, and are tested, and the build process is better, they actually have QC and testing, etc etc. (I don't know if ebikeparts is better or not, but if they actually build them themselves, rather than buying random junk and reselling it, it's a fair bet they're better than those others).
 
Wow, i didn't even look that far into it.. i just assumed it was junk because it's a cheap product on amazon sold by a fly by night company that will never support their product and just dump junk.. as usual.. the judgement was correct.

More garbage on Amazon than aliexpress these days, lol
 
If you check into the companies on amazon (or ebay), you will not uncommonly find they also sell on aliexpress, sometimes under the very same name.
 
You might want to read reviews for all versions of a product page before considering products to buy. These are the reviews on the amazon.com page (vs amazon.ca); I didn't look at other versions but getting any bad reviews like these are a pretty bad sign. (aside from random amazon, ebay, ali* etc sellers rarely being trustworthy)


  • Chris Akins

    1.0 out of 5 stars DO NOT BUY!!!

    Reviewed in the United States on December 4, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    They claim their product is a 72v 20 ah battery with good cells but once taken apart because of not working issue I found out that whoever built this battery took more time to pack foam and all kinds of junk inside to make the battery look a lot bigger than it actually is in all reality the battery is not even a quarter of what they claim and the cells they used cannot even be found anywhere on the Internet do not waste your money on this piece of junk product!! I would give it zero stars but it wouldn’t let me!
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  • freidun sediki

    2.0 out of 5 stars Good and bad

    Reviewed in the United States on October 25, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    Good because it is 72v but very low usage times, and it’s very hard to return
    4 people found this helpful
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  • Numa Martinez

    3.0 out of 5 stars Okay so far…

    Reviewed in the United States on January 1, 2025
    Color: 72v 30ahVerified Purchase
    The box the battery came in had holes and was damaged and the pvc cover on the battery it self was damaged the xt90 connector had looked like it had been used and burnt , the product pictured a wire with a tx90 and it did not come with this wire causing me to have to order this wire dispite this over all it is and okay battery it came at 74 volts i will be reaching out to this company about this issue
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  • Alberto

    5.0 out of 5 stars FAcil de usar

    Reviewed in the United States on November 24, 2024
    Color: 72v 40ahVerified Purchase
    El articulo llegoen tiempo, fue muy facil su instalacion, lo recomiendo mucho este vendedor.
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  • Bridges

    1.0 out of 5 stars JUNK.

    Reviewed in the United States on September 21, 2024
    Color: 72v 40ahVerified Purchase
    I ordered this for my family in Cuba and was trusting it would work because I knew it was not going to be refundable and shipped back from Cuba to do so anyway if it did not work. It Did not last 30 minutes at half throttle. As shown in the photos it’s encased in like a plastic cardboard material. It is an embarrassing cheap design and don’t know why any manufacturer would be ok with junk leaving their factory. I don’t know how any seller would want their name on a garbage product. Honestly despicable. Now I’ve basically thrown $500 in the trash.
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  • Kevin batts

    1.0 out of 5 stars Did not last a month

    Reviewed in the United States on August 5, 2024
    Color: 72v 20ahVerified Purchase
    Did not last a month losing power completely
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Thanks, yea i was going to do a bunch more research into batteries for the bike, I've read some nasty reviews myself, especially about lithium ion.

As for why I want to change the batteries is due to a increase of distance plus lower weight. My partner like to ride with me every now and then, so less weight the better.

I recently installed new batteries but don't last nearly as long as I'd want them to, maybe a hour. I'll have to check one the streets clear up of this snow haha.

Once I get home I'll take some photos of the connectors. all in all, I'm just looking for something to boost the performance of the bike so I can ride it longer and further without dropping another 3 grand into it.
I've been told and have seen through other forums that Daymak is absolutely shit, from their service side (warranty and simple service) so trying to avoid a head ache with them lol.
 
As for why I want to change the batteries is due to a increase of distance plus lower weight. My partner like to ride with me every now and then, so less weight the better.
Well, you won't likley get more range with less weight of battery, you'll get less, because less battery means less capacity and that means less range, especially when you add more load (passenger).

There isn't all that much difference between weights of different batteries of the same capacity and performance, compared to the total bike and rider weight.

Sometimes, depending on what exactly you already have for cells, you may find some that have higher perfromance for less weight, but usually capacities are roughly equal between different weights / volumes of most types of lithium cells. LiFePO4 cells are usually heavier for a given capacity / volume than others, but they may also have a longer lifespan (depends on the cells and usage).

So...if you want more range, you will probably have to have a physically larger battery, proportional to how much more range you want.


I recently installed new batteries but don't last nearly as long as I'd want them to, maybe a hour. I'll have to check one the streets clear up of this snow haha.
What specific batteries did you use? Links to the sale page are helpful. (unless this is the one you already linked previously).

Are you using the charger that came with them? If not, what specific charger are you using? (pics of the charger label, whichever one it is, would be helpful so we can try to make sure it is the correct one for the batteries you are using).


What specific batteries did they replace? If they cam ewith the bike there probably is no sale page to link, but if you still have them you can post pictures of the labelling that might have useful info.

Being able to compare what you started with to what you now have, and you letting us know how well each one worked for you, will help us help you figure out which one was better suited to your usage, and thus which path is probably better to go down...or if neither was suited and you need something different, it will help us help you know what *not* to get.



Once I get home I'll take some photos of the connectors. all in all, I'm just looking for something to boost the performance of the bike so I can ride it longer and further without dropping another 3 grand into it.

Are you looking to boost it's performance? Or it's range? Or both? Performance usually means how quick it accelerates, or how fast it goes, how steep a hill it can climb and not slow down, etc.

They're not impossible to both do at the same time...but unless you have a lot of voltage sag under load (when accelerating, riding, going uphill, etc) then the battery isn't affecting performance and you'd need to change the controller to improve performance.
 
Depending on the speed you go, you may be able to get extra range "for free" just by slowing down, or by altering the aerodynamics of you and the bike. Accelerating more slowly may also increase range. When heavily loaded, choosing routes that go around large elevation changes may be more efficient than trying to go up them.

Above around 15mph, it starts making a difference to power usage, more and more power per mph increase in speed. (there's charts / etc around the web that show this, or you can use simulators with your actual conditions, etc). The more aerodynamic the bike and rider are, the less this affects the system, but most are pretty poor aero.
 
Well, you won't likley get more range with less weight of battery, you'll get less, because less battery means less capacity and that means less range, especially when you add more load (passenger).

There isn't all that much difference between weights of different batteries of the same capacity and performance, compared to the total bike and rider weight.

Sometimes, depending on what exactly you already have for cells, you may find some that have higher perfromance for less weight, but usually capacities are roughly equal between different weights / volumes of most types of lithium cells. LiFePO4 cells are usually heavier for a given capacity / volume than others, but they may also have a longer lifespan (depends on the cells and usage).

So...if you want more range, you will probably have to have a physically larger battery, proportional to how much more range you want.



What specific batteries did you use? Links to the sale page are helpful. (unless this is the one you already linked previously).

Are you using the charger that came with them? If not, what specific charger are you using? (pics of the charger label, whichever one it is, would be helpful so we can try to make sure it is the correct one for the batteries you are using).


What specific batteries did they replace? If they cam ewith the bike there probably is no sale page to link, but if you still have them you can post pictures of the labelling that might have useful info.

Being able to compare what you started with to what you now have, and you letting us know how well each one worked for you, will help us help you figure out which one was better suited to your usage, and thus which path is probably better to go down...or if neither was suited and you need something different, it will help us help you know what *not* to get.





Are you looking to boost it's performance? Or it's range? Or both? Performance usually means how quick it accelerates, or how fast it goes, how steep a hill it can climb and not slow down, etc.

They're not impossible to both do at the same time...but unless you have a lot of voltage sag under load (when accelerating, riding, going uphill, etc) then the battery isn't affecting performance and you'd need to change the controller to improve performance.

I pretty much want both performance and range if I could. Which I'm sure upgrading to a Lithium Ion would do seeing as they are, as far as I know, better then the lead sealed acid batteries I currently use. Which are only 12v 22aH, there are 6 of them in the bike.

These are the batteries I currently use. They are the same voltage and everything as the factory battiers. Both were simply Sealed Lead Acid, so the 6 batteries I need to put in the bike weigh around 100 pounds haha.



As for what I am using to charge them, I am using what came with the bike.

Below are some photos of the charger, charging port, batteries, and one of the controller itself, including the link to the controller from their website. (Which I'm going to assume that if I was to upgrade the battery, I'd have to upgrade the controller?)

 

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I pretty much want both performance and range if I could. Which I'm sure upgrading to a Lithium Ion would do seeing as they are, as far as I know, better then the lead sealed acid batteries I currently use.
With SLA vs Li, then yes, it would almost certainly give you both.

I'd guesstimate that a lithium pack the same capacity and voltage as the original would *at least* double your range. If you have a "72v 22Ah" SLA pack, then if it was an 18650 pack with an average 3Ah non-LiFePO4 cell, that's a 16s 8p pack. But I'd get a pack that is at least 25-50% more capacity than that, so that as it ages it still gives you the range you want.

Performance increase depends on how much voltage sag you get now under various load conditions that you want better performance under, and the specific capabilities of the pack you replace it with. You'd want to pick a pack (not made of pickled peppers) that can continuously handle *at least* 50A (the max your ocntroller is marked with), preferably at least 25-50% more than that, so that as it ages it still performs as desired (and performs very well until that point).

If you are willing to do a little DIY, you can buy used EV modules that can be rebuilt into the battery you need. Most likely you would need to reconfigure the module(s) to get the voltage you need without exceeding hte max full charge 84v your controller is listed at. The less you have to alter the pack, the better, because these are usually very well built. The hardest part is finding modules that will physically fit in the space you have available (unless you are willing to modify that, too). You may need to build a casing for the modules to weatherproof them.

And you would probably want to add a BMS to the pack, to monitor it during charge and discharge. It shouldn't need to do balancing, if the pack is well built and the cells are matched (which is fairly likely with ex-EV modules, even used ones), but if you want to monitor it for this you could get one with bluetooth so you can use a phone app to check it now and then. (makes some troubleshooting easier when there are problems, or even when building the pack).

Greentecauto, batteryhookup, etc. are usually good places to get these used packs, and they will be MUCH cheaper than a new battery.

If interested in this route, take a peek around those sites and see if what is there looks like something you could work with, and then we can figure out what they ahve that might work for your needs.

Which I'm going to assume that if I was to upgrade the battery, I'd have to upgrade the controller?)
You shouldn't need to change that out unless the performance doesn't end up like what you want, dependiong on exactly what you need to be different.

For instance, if you want higher speed, you usually need higher voltage, and that *would* require a controller change, most likely. It would also require higher current to help get the greater power it takes to go faster, so the battery has to be more capable to do it, and higher capacity to give the same range at the higher speed.

If you only want better acceleration / hill climbing, then a better more capable battery, with enough capacity to give you the range at that higher current, would probably do the trick. If not, then you'd need a higher current controller too, and a battery that can handle that current and has the capacity, too.
 
I am currently trying to figure out what batteries I can use with my Daymak Road Warrior.

I'm unsure if the connectors are the same or what I can do to make this 3rd party battery work.

Daymak is nearly useless is trying to help service the bike from over the phone, I currently have no service center near me.

Normal Daymak Lithium battery

After market Lithium battery
Isn’t the original battery lead acid? Most lithium batteries would be an improvement, but neither of the ones you linked say what kind of cells are used, so that’s an automatic no for the first “Normal” battery, even if it’s priced like a good battery. The second battery would probably make a good bomb. Have you considered LiFePO4?

Is the Daymak the bike that makes the fake motorcycle sounds? The first rule for staying alive with real motorcycles is don’t ever assume cars can see or hear you. If you do, you’ll be dead soon. It’s a fun novelty, but if the assumption is that it will provide additional safety, it could have the opposite effect.
 
Isn’t the original battery lead acid? Most lithium batteries would be an improvement, but neither of the ones you linked say what kind of cells are used, so that’s an automatic no for the first “Normal” battery, even if it’s priced like a good battery. The second battery would probably make a good bomb. Have you considered LiFePO4?

Is the Daymak the bike that makes the fake motorcycle sounds? The first rule for staying alive with real motorcycles is don’t ever assume cars can see or hear you. If you do, you’ll be dead soon. It’s a fun novelty, but if the assumption is that it will provide additional safety, it could have the opposite effect.
Lmao yea it is, which I find quite stupid as its not loud and sounds quite dumb. If the LED lights didn't show fake fire I'd just use them to blast music as I ride. >.>
But as for the battery I was not planning to use the second one, was mostly just using it as a example. Just trying to find cheaper alternatives to Daymaks own stupidly expensive one.
 
Based on the specs, those packs are made of 200 18650 cells. A Samsung 30Q, for example, is $3,25 now, so cells alone would be $650. You have to add the BMS, and all the hardware, then the labor. Sure, you could get a cheap pack for less than $1k, but with generic cells and questionable construction.
Generic cells aren’t all bad. The problem is they aren’t all good either. It only takes 1 cell out of the 200 to take out the whole pack, so it’s gambling. Odds of bad cells for brand name cells are much lower. The best practice is to test the capacity of all cells and weed out any that don’t match the rest. Those packs would lead a long happy life, if not abused. But doing that takes time, and rare to find in mass produced packs. So even brand name cells there’s still some amount of gambling, but with way better odds.
You could try contacting EM3EV and tell them what you want and the dimensions and see if they can make a custom pack. That would be a good data point for evaluating prices. I’d actually go with 21700 cells for a larger pack. Fewer cells (120) and less to go wrong
 
That's fair, if the price for the daymak wasn't like 2300 bucks I'd totally be down to do it. But at the same time if I can find one for 1000-1500 if be happy. But I'll have to do some research. I might even charge the controller.

Though I have no idea about batteries I'm sure doing some research I'll.figure it all out
 
The battery subforum has some sticky posts with good info.
I have some simple stuff on terminology in my FAQ
 
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