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Oh, yes, when I say 'programmer' I mean a person who comes up with and then implements an idea in code. Those days are probably long over.
No idea, i don't have this drive!@neptronix, you probably already said, but how would the torque multiplier / Motor Assist Factor differ than the three existing Modes & Levels -> Pedal Assist Power / Torque Levels?
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Sorry 'bout that - wrong "n" ...No idea, i don't have this drive!
Relax, I hear that CYC are onboarding a guy from Crowdstrike this week.Yes, that's the gist of it. But you are going to get jousted by a certain white knight for insulting their coders... when the coder/s may have simply implemented the design outline provided by the execs on this particular issue.
@nervagon, you probably already said, but how would the torque multiplier / Motor Assist Factor differ than the three existing Modes & Levels -> Pedal Assist Power / Torque Levels?
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I haven't fully watched the recent CYC Ride Control video, maybe she talks about it.
I'm interested in getting a photon but sadly i live somewhere really really hilly (switzerland) and i'm worried about the temps
Where did ppl get informations about the proton coming ? A bigger motor would dissipate heat better
It's easy to read this thread/watch review videos and assume the photon has thermal issues and wouldn't be able to handle it but it really all comes down to expectations. More info could help us evaluate things for you. What kind of bike are you thinking about putting it on? Are the hills big long slogs or short bursts of super steep? Do you expect to blast up the hills full throttle no pedaling? Things like that.i live somewhere really really hilly (switzerland) and i'm worried about the temps
my house is basically 400m uphill of the lake where i often go. Right now i use the car most of the time to do everything but i basically have to get rid of it. So i'm looking at something pretty powerful that could get me to the house from the lake/climbing gym etc.It's easy to read this thread/watch review videos and assume the photon has thermal issues and wouldn't be able to handle it but it really all comes down to expectations. More info could help us evaluate things for you. What kind of bike are you thinking about putting it on? Are the hills big long slogs or short bursts of super steep? Do you expect to blast up the hills full throttle no pedaling? Things like that.
As for the proton, it's all speculation at this point, I haven't seen anything conclusive anywhere. The only things I've seen that seem solid (aka from vendors who work with CYC) are that there are delays in their plans. For all we know it could be vaporware and never actually come. I wouldn't plan around building a proton bike unless you're willing to wait multiple years. Plus the inevitable teething pains that will come when/if it is finally released.
Yeah i've seen your posts i mean in switzerland it's pretty rare to get 37° temps like theses days in summer its around 30° and it's hella hot. Most of the time the temp will be under this and the grades are mostly around 6-18 degree where i live. In the main city it's like 5 most of the time but it's almost never flat. To go to the lake its 400m climb 4km away so pretty intense bitsWhat is the highest ambient temperature range you will be riding in, and what are the grades you will be riding up?
I have ridden the Photon up 10%-15% grades in 37C weather. Recent firmware has improved performance under stress. But you will not get BBSHD performance up long climbs. The Photon will be closer to a big brand factory ebike with a bosch CX, or Brose/specialized 2.2.
I'd say my Brose/Specialized 2.2 motor still outperforms the Photon under climbing stress.
Oh right maybe its 18% it says on strava lolDo you mean 18% grade or 18 degrees? Both are steep.
And what bike frame will you be transplanting onto?Oh right maybe its 18% it says on strava lol
18 degrees would be insane
Yeah i live in switzerland.And what bike frame will you be transplanting onto?
If you don't have a bike yet, and you have the budget, you may want to consider a proper ebike from a big brand... if class 3 are legal in your area. Modern big brand ebikes are way more powerful than their supposed 250W rating. But if you live in an area with high theft, or just want to build a rat bike/commuter that gets chained up and left for a while, then DIY can still be a good option.
Yeah i live in switzerland.
I wanted to build a trek marlin basically. Its cheapish at 1k so i can upgrade the fork later and basically invest money into battery and good motor.
Yeah i was hesitating. Something like a cube kathmandu with a bosch cx 85nm and 750wh battery can be had for like 3500€ but the range isnt that great. What i like about it is that it's street legal. I'm kind of worried that in switzerland i could get badly frocked by the police basically losing my car driving license riding an ebike that can be set up to have throttle and +250w of continuous sustained power for 10mn. But it's not really sure how that goes.
It seems like the bosch motor is a decent motor but i really hate the closed proprietary non custom stuff and the battery are always kinda small at 750wh. Also it's just not really a fun bike it's more of a commuter/touring but with the setup it doesn't look like it want to get on trails lol
Oh damn really is the bosch motor that bad ? lolPersonally, I think the Bosch motors suck. They are loud and have a weird internal rattle.
But the Brose S Mag motor is wonderful. Virtually silent and very powerful.
Given the choice between a Bosch system and the Photon, I might still choose the Photon.
Hold my beer...Do you mean 18% grade or 18 degrees? Both are steep.
I've been surprised when the mainstream reviewers comment on a motor because it DOESN'T rattle. That's insane to me.Personally, I think the Bosch motors suck. They are loud and have a weird internal rattle.
Spectacular. Thank you for posting. Can you let us know the location of this fantastic trail?Hold my beer...
Oh damn really is the bosch motor that bad ? lol
I havent seen clear comparison. The brose s mag isnt that common it seems and usually on more expensive builds or on a few bike like 4ever exstream but its in CZ or BH bikes that aren't really common so idk about quality.
Wasnt brose supposedly coming with the new iteration of the S Mag ?
Anyway not really the discussion there i guess..
You think the photon noise/heat is similar to the bosch system ?