Rix
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A while back someone asked me about 4" shinko trials tires. I said they are way big and heavy, which they are. Well that doesn't mean they can't work on an Ebike. Here is a pic.
19" Motorcycle Wheels vs 26" Bicycle Wheels (rim and tires)
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MrDude_1
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that is one beefy looking bike.Rix said:
Rix
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MrDude_1 said:
So true Mr. Labowski, I like the look also.
Vee Rubber VRM 013 19x2.25 on a MXUS.
Got the VRM 015 18x2.5 since 750km and im very pleased for the given price.
The Shinko 241 is another level but the cheap Vee Rubber does the job on the streets and light dirt tracks.
Still way better than any other expensive bike tire i guess.
Got the VRM 015 18x2.5 since 750km and im very pleased for the given price.
The Shinko 241 is another level but the cheap Vee Rubber does the job on the streets and light dirt tracks.
Still way better than any other expensive bike tire i guess.
Rix
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Sweet Ziltoid, how about a pic of the wheel on your machine?
BCTECH
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after fixing a flat on the front a week ago, now is the rear
two small holes on the tube, makes me think even the mx tube is pretty weak.
Is it possible the tire itself actually is damaged ? from a lot of pinch or cut that I am not even realized, then things pinch through the tire to inner tube very easily ?
I am planning to put Mr tuffy tire liners to try first, are they only good for bicycle tire or will also work for mx?
Rix / Offroader what size do you use for our wider tire ? the wider one is 26x2.5 , unless I go fat tire version 26x3.0. if it doesn't need to cover the whole width then I go for 2.5in to save some weight. I assume the length not matter as I can cut it to fit 17in or 19in tire
if that still not working, tire ball maybe next try
two small holes on the tube, makes me think even the mx tube is pretty weak.
Is it possible the tire itself actually is damaged ? from a lot of pinch or cut that I am not even realized, then things pinch through the tire to inner tube very easily ?
I am planning to put Mr tuffy tire liners to try first, are they only good for bicycle tire or will also work for mx?
Rix / Offroader what size do you use for our wider tire ? the wider one is 26x2.5 , unless I go fat tire version 26x3.0. if it doesn't need to cover the whole width then I go for 2.5in to save some weight. I assume the length not matter as I can cut it to fit 17in or 19in tire
if that still not working, tire ball maybe next try
Rix
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3.0 x 26 tuffy liner would be better for any tire around the 2.75-3.00 inches wide rating as most MX and MC tires in general are wider than their rating, except Vee Rubber VRM, they are true close to size. How much PSI were you running when the rear flatted? You noted
this tells me a pinch flat occurred. Were the holes on the ID part of the tube? if thats the case, you did pinch flat, and no tire liner will prevent that from happening, need to increase tire air pressure. Let us know whats going on so we can diagnose the issue correctly.
BCTECH
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I was running around 12psi , what do you guys use for off road ?
what do you mean by ID part of the tube?
I have a feeling two holes pinched pretty much the same time within maybe half an hour apart. that tells me it happens often and easily. The holes were not small, by the time I realized it was only 50% pressure left. It is not like I was riding at some construction site with nails and sharps all around, and the only thing I can think of is stone chips that can pinch the tire.
Why the tire liner can not prevent? its between the tire and tube, if something pinch the tire then liner should protect things going further to the tube?!
HD tube might help but its quite heavy
what do you mean by ID part of the tube?
I have a feeling two holes pinched pretty much the same time within maybe half an hour apart. that tells me it happens often and easily. The holes were not small, by the time I realized it was only 50% pressure left. It is not like I was riding at some construction site with nails and sharps all around, and the only thing I can think of is stone chips that can pinch the tire.
Why the tire liner can not prevent? its between the tire and tube, if something pinch the tire then liner should protect things going further to the tube?!
HD tube might help but its quite heavy
Rix is saying iD is printed on side of tubes so if that is where the pinch was its a pinch as thats where the tube squashes at,just run abit more psi
Fyi on tyre liners iv tryed them on my bomber aint worth a rub,thay just rub through on inner tube, u cant run em up sides of a tyre,
U got a pic of this offending punture ?
Fyi on tyre liners iv tryed them on my bomber aint worth a rub,thay just rub through on inner tube, u cant run em up sides of a tyre,
U got a pic of this offending punture ?
Rix
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Jimboyr6 said:
Yep, or just below it.
Rix
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BCTECH said:
Try 18PSI, I know it will be harsher, but you wont flat when center punching rocks and curbs. Pinch flats occur when the tire folds down to the rim, with the tube folding inside to the point it "cracks" and splits along the fold. The tire liner goes between the top of the tube and tire. The tire liner doesn't increase the sidewall rigidity of a tube/tire comb, running higher PSI or a tire with more plys is the only way to increase sidewall rigidity, and that's how you prevent pinch flats when running a tire with a tube.
casuarinatree
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Hello All,
I just purchased a full suspension frame that I will use primarily for commuting purposes in a hilly area. I'm using dual hub motors based on threads that @Alan B and @Kingfish spearheaded in the past. I'm using motorcycle tires on front and rear because I've ridden bikes with both and just found that the reliability and durability of motorcycle tires superior to bicycle tires for my applications.
I was considering either 19" or 21" tires, using either 1.6 or 1.85 rims. I'm leaning towards 21" tires with 1.6 rims, but my question is using a hubmotor with disc brakes what would be the widest motorcycle tire I can fit on standard 110mm dropouts for the front? I was thinking of a Shinko 241 in a 2.75-19 if that is possible.
Does anyone have any thoughts? Thanks for your feedback.
I just purchased a full suspension frame that I will use primarily for commuting purposes in a hilly area. I'm using dual hub motors based on threads that @Alan B and @Kingfish spearheaded in the past. I'm using motorcycle tires on front and rear because I've ridden bikes with both and just found that the reliability and durability of motorcycle tires superior to bicycle tires for my applications.
I was considering either 19" or 21" tires, using either 1.6 or 1.85 rims. I'm leaning towards 21" tires with 1.6 rims, but my question is using a hubmotor with disc brakes what would be the widest motorcycle tire I can fit on standard 110mm dropouts for the front? I was thinking of a Shinko 241 in a 2.75-19 if that is possible.
Does anyone have any thoughts? Thanks for your feedback.
Rix
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casuarinatree said:
just about any 2.75-21 MC tire will fit on a downhill fork. A shinko SR241 2.75-21 will be fine.
litespeed
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I'm sold on the motorcycle wheel/tire combos after a few weeks on them. The Shinko 241's really ride nice both front and rear. I can feel it slowed the bikes handling down slightly but for security of better grip, major resistance to flats and piece of mind on a 60 mph bike can not be beat. I've been running a 17" rear for over a year but just joined the club running one on the front. With a sub 30 lbs hub on the rear it's a have to IMHO and now after running one I think the front is just as important as the rear. We will see how I feel after a year or so.
With the new MaxE/QS 205 3.5T I went with a 17" rear and 19" front for the super motard look. Shinko's roll nice but with a completely quiet motor they sound really noisy till the wind blocks the sound at speed. Kinda has a fat bike look as well.
ES has been so awesome for sharing all this info and getting me the info to take my bike to this level. Couldn't have done with out any of the great folks here. Not sure what I can do to top this set up.....but I'm sure I'll read about it here!
Tom
With the new MaxE/QS 205 3.5T I went with a 17" rear and 19" front for the super motard look. Shinko's roll nice but with a completely quiet motor they sound really noisy till the wind blocks the sound at speed. Kinda has a fat bike look as well.
ES has been so awesome for sharing all this info and getting me the info to take my bike to this level. Couldn't have done with out any of the great folks here. Not sure what I can do to top this set up.....but I'm sure I'll read about it here!
Tom
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ziltoid81 said:
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Rix said:
I would be surprised if BCTECH pinched flat that tire at 12 PSI. I believe he said he weighs around 135 LBS.
Unless the SHinko 244 sidewalls are weaker than the 241, there is no way I could pinch flat my 241 at 12 PSI. He would have to examine if the holes are spaced apart evenly on the sides.
It is possible he had a slow leak and didn't realize it that brought the tire pressure down really low.
I'd be really surprised if the tire was 12 PSI and he was able to pinch flat it.
litespeed
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BCTECH said:
I have the 241's front and rear. They seem the same as far as noise but couldn't say for sure. The front 19 x 2.75 seems like slightly harder rubber than the 17 x 3.00 rear.
Tom
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Wow this thread has become a wealth of knowledge, unfortunatly i dont have the time to search through thw whole thing so excuse me if discussed before.
Im wanting to road register a fat/snow bike in the UK so am looking for some FAT 4" road legal tyres. Its a long shot but wondering if anyone has found anything like this that may fit a 26" rim or even 27.5"?
The closest ive come to is old school 20" motorcycle tyres that fit a 24" bike rim but there are only one or two available and they aren't fat enough?
Im wanting to road register a fat/snow bike in the UK so am looking for some FAT 4" road legal tyres. Its a long shot but wondering if anyone has found anything like this that may fit a 26" rim or even 27.5"?
The closest ive come to is old school 20" motorcycle tyres that fit a 24" bike rim but there are only one or two available and they aren't fat enough?
