Another new Puma

knoxie

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Hi

Well all these cats keep on mutating!! I have another one here, its a cross between the BMX and the EV tech one really, its nice and clean inside no rusty bits, the gears are far more simple not the keyed arrangement but they look solid enough.

I have decided in order to test these motors better I need to actually use them day to day, its simply no good doing a test when its sunny for a few miles I need to really put them to use so this is the plan.

I removed my USPD off the bike as it needs a bit of attention anyway and have installed this new variant of the Puma, you can see the wheel is straight laced! no crossover, its a nice thick double wall rim and the spokes are a heavy gauge, It looks unusual but rides nice and is seems very strong.

As I do not intend to run more than 48V on this I figured my stock controller will be fine as it has been running 48V for a year with no probs. First impressions are good, its got great low down torque and acceleration (it would beat my USPD here) and climbs hills very well, the slopes near me my USPD sometimes bogs a little to 14mph this was taking at 20mph so it is great in that respect, the watts up meter was showing peaks as high as 1600 watts, cruising amps at 25mph were around 15 or so although this changes depending on which way the wind is blowing.

Its whisper quiet albeit with the characteristic little rumble most hub motors have on initial start up, its nice not having the chain noise of the USPD its the only thing I don't like about the USPD, I am leaning towards hub motors now for their simplicity and quietness, this one is also equallyas powerful as my USPD.

I cut the long cable right down to the axle and fitted my own 5 pin hall connector (hate those xlyte ones) had to route the cables down the other side, they only just meet!! so lucky to have guessed that one! ha ha.

Just got back from a nice grocery run however I scared myself as I came out of the store with my back pack full of groceries and I didn't have enough room to fit my lock in my pack! so I slung it around the seat. Now cycling back from the stores I go through this little wooded section with a nice steep gnarly bank, good test I thought except about half way up it cut out :cry: Oh no~! I thought darn it and stuff, so fearing the worst I cycled the rest of the way back home.

A quick sniff of the controller but nothing? it was ok hmmm then it dawned on me! ha ha the lock that I had draped around the seat had knocked the button on the controller and switched it off!! ha ha, doh :lol:

It was right on the button! i moved it and pushed the button and it all sparked back in to life!! ha ha what an idiot!! ha ha

Right have to shoot up to Mums for Sunday Lunch!! here are some pics of the swap over yesterday, radial spokes look kind of cool if a little weird!! he he.

This little Puma is purring along nicely!

Knoxie
 

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So is straight lacing ok as long as the hub is strong enough to carry the increased loads? Why do all the bicycle folks say not to straight lace disc braked wheels, and not the drive side of a rear wheel? Larger diameter of the hub motor helps?
 
Hi

Yes It does not seem to be a problem, the BMX and this wheel they seem to be fine, its a very strong double walled rim and the spokes are quite substantial and yes it helps as the wheel is laced in to a large diameter hub in essence, if it is going to fail it will do so at slow speed under high torque hopefully :eek: I am sure it will be ok, its a nice smooth and quiet motor, not as high a top end as the other pumas but certainly ok, I dont know how many different versions of these there are, there seems to be loads.

Cheers

Knoxie
 
At an olympic indoor bicycle sprint competition a number of years back the TV commentators pointed out that for the gold medal round both cyclists removed their regular cross-laced rear wheel that they were using up to that point & went with a straight lace instead. I think the front smaller wheel is always normally radial.

The explanation given was that it's to deliver the maximum torque to the ground with the shortest possible spokes so as to produce the least amount of flex. The goal being minimum power is lost to suspension. Whether that's the case here you'll have to decide for yourself.
 
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