BIKE BRAKES

[2old]

Interesting (to me) article.

http://santanatandem.com/Techno/UnderstandingBraking.html

 

[Drunkskunk]

Seems to be a broken link.

" Network Error (dns_unresolved_hostname)

Your requested host "santaanatandem.com" could not be resolved by DNS."

 

[efMX Trials Electric Freeride]

http://santanatandem.com/Techno/UnderstandingBraking.html

 

[Drunkskunk]

Thanks.
Good article.

 

[2old]

Thanks for "repairing"; fixed it (I think).

 

[spinningmagnets]

From: "Top secret EV"

Bengal mechanical disc brakes: the most prized disc brake caliper and rotor in the tandem industry. They feature the thickest bike rotor in the industry thus reducing heat on hills and when hauling a heavy load. Most bike disc rotors are 1.8mm~2.2mm thick, while the Bengal rotor is over 2.5mm thick.

 

[MadRhino]

Heavy rotors do shed heat, but they slow down performance adding weight to the wheel. A fine design, larger diameter light weight rotor does perform better. After years of trying various components, I now use the same Hope 225mm rotor with either Hope M6 or Magura MT7 calipers. These combinations are giving the best braking performance and reliability that can be found in bicycle components.

 

[killerisation]

I'm looking to buy this rotor if you wanted to sell it.

Heavy rotors do shed heat, but they slow down performance adding weight to the wheel. A fine design, larger diameter light weight rotor does perform better. After years of trying various components, I now use the same Hope 225mm rotor with either Hope M6 or Magura MT7 calipers. These combinations are giving the best braking performance and reliability that can be found in bicycle components.

 

[MadRhino]

I'm looking to buy this rotor if you wanted to sell it

Sorry I am not selling bike components.
Buy them rotors from Hope or one of their resellers around the world.

 

[Jonno]

Galfer 223mm x 2mm are also really good

Jonno

 

[markz]

Bengal mechanical disc brakes

How much for those Bengal brake complete set?

Avid BB7 is reasonable price, matched with some Koolstop pads that people always speak highly of. Then if you'd want more stopping power then just up the disc diameter to 203 or 205.

 

[Balmorhea]

Bengal mechanical disc brakes

How much for those Bengal brake complete set?

Avid BB7 is reasonable price, matched with some Koolstop pads that people always speak highly of. Then if you'd want more stopping power then just up the disc diameter to 203 or 205.

I think fully metallic pads (Avid, EBC, or whoever else’s) are the best for BB7. They make a little more noise and they’re harder on rotors compared to semi-metallic or organic pads, but they stop harder and last a whole lot longer.

 

[markz]

I still like V-brakes, they got a 26" brake rotor instead of a measly 8.07" (205mm) disc rotor.
Very cheap pads, cheap everything because they've been around for ever and ever.

 

[99t4]

There's that, but discs work better for me in the rain.

 

[MadRhino]

This is about where, and how fast you ride. There is a speed from which you need hydro brakes, and dirt that is making rim brakes useless. And, reliable braking performance is not something you can afford to be cheap with, because sooner or later you will pay the price with skin and bones.

 

[Balmorhea]

There is a speed from which you need hydro brakes,

How do you reckon? Cables don't boil.

Pretty much everybody's motorcycles used cable drums until around 1970. Honda raced rim braked track bikes in the '60s. Is anybody here going faster than that?

 

[MadRhino]

Board track racing was suicidal and you know that. They would (did) have raced without brakes and it wouldn’t have changed a thing.

Cable don’t boil, they slip and break. And, not everyone can use both hands on a front brake lever in emergency situation at 60 mph.

I have had motorcycles since the 60’s. While a drum was still good for the time, they were heavier than a whole bicycle. From the 70’s all the bikes I’ve had were equipped with hydro disc brakes on the front. But yes, most touring bikes and lighter dirt bikes were offering hydro disc brakes as optional only.

We could go back earlier. They had a big steel plate rubbing the wheel, would you use one today?

Ah! By the way. Some on ES are riding the streets faster than the average board track racers. Few are faster than the board track world record though.

 

[maanebedotten]

I just love the boardtracker era. Coolest looking bikes ever with absolutely no thought given to safety

I can imagine the conversation:

Builder: What kind of brakes should we put on your bike?
Racer: Brakes? Why would I want to slow down? Unless it makes the bike faster I dont want it.
Builder: Uhhh, Ok. So where do you want the throttle then? Right side or left?
Racer: Throttle? What do I need that for?
Builder: Ok, ok, I get it. Its been nice knowing you. I will get some nice flowers for your funeral.

 

[MadRhino]

I just love the boardtracker era. Coolest looking bikes ever with absolutely no thought given to safety

In the 60’s I have had a horse with no brakes. You could bring his mouth to your knee for an emergency one-rein stop, it didn’t work for he’d rather crash and flip on the ground, than braking. Freaking crazy horse. Painful memories.

Board track bikes were like that. You felt you had no control over them, and had to trust they’d follow the planks cracks on the track.