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swbluto said:
Okay, somewhat random post but I don't know where else to put it, but I met this girl in the bottom of a medical laboratory and she had the creepiest smile I've seen on a girl. Don't get me wrong, this girl was pretty awesome, but I've never seen such a unnaturally thin, wide, huge smile like that on a girl. I've even looked on a google for a similarly creepy smile, and the only ones that come close are facepainted ones. I always thought that perhaps the Nuke Program attracted a lot of "weird girls", but looking back, they seemed to be actually pretty normal in comparison though they tended to be a bit dorky compared to the average female. Which, I didn't have ANY PROBLEMS WITH, lol.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention her smile. It struck me as something quite rare.

However, I will admit that this girl probably doesn't smile that often in public, at least not like that. She probably smiled in her natural way (As opposed to the more reserved public-facing smile that almost all girls have) around me because she felt comfortable and really happy to talk to me, I don't blame her. Little did she know I was going to judge her and talk about her behind her back, lol.
Pictures?
 
Didn't happen? You find it hard to believe he saw a girl that was out of his reach and it freaked him out? That he started trying to find fault with her to appease his insecurities? That he says he's going to have to settle for someone less exciting? You really think that never happened?

I remember I'd gotten my B.A. but my old community college had put in a full recording studio and a more advanced video editing system, so I just had to go back for a few classes. There was this guy and this girl coming to class together, talked of the growing up together, etc. Towards the end of the semester the girl starts talking to me --- kinda funny.

The short version of that is I'm going to learn the guy is barely an exBF, but they had grown up together and were really more like brother and sister, etc. Dang, this is this really cute girl giving me the come on, here. So now the word is out about the two of them and this OTHER guy starts about how she just REALLY gives him the willies, though. The willies? You mean like that song 'Little Willie?' I think I know where the real disturbance lay. Or wouldn't lay still.

So maybe he was better off having no crack at her. This one was about getting rich. I can tell you what he was spared. I mean, compared to what he MISSED, well, maybe it WAS worth it. . . .

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Dauntless said:
Didn't happen? You find it hard to believe he saw a girl that was out of his reach and it freaked him out?

What? lol. I'm not sure if you understand women all that well, but whether a girl is out of your reach largely depends on whether you think you are. Cogito ergo sum, so true when it comes to women. However, don't get me wrong... 'true love' or, rather, 'truer love' does exist... tends to find itself along the lines of psychological/thinking/communication similarities.

But, I won't go on length about that. I'm not here to talk about dating and the important roles of posturing and self-concept. But, my friends were pretty jealous how easily I talked with women.

But, anyway, this girl didn't really 'freak me out', I just thought it was weird how creepy her smile was. Seeing such a creepy smile on a girl is not something you see everyday, if ever. I figured I probably just discovered where they tended to hide; at the bottom of basements in a medical laboratory, lol. And, I honestly thought it had more to do with what it said about the people that tend to live in this town. Note, I didn't choose to live in this town. These people, however, did. And, I think it takes a certain kind of person to live in this area as an adult, among the adults who have the financial means to have a choice [like her]. However, don't get me wrong, there are certain fixed income occupations (like teaching) and fixed income demographics (SSI, SSDI) that tend to gravitate to areas like these because of the relatively low cost of living. And, I guess some people have family in this area... though the better families tended to leave to Seattle during the last decade... thought it was funny the local opinion columnist was opining 'all the good ones are leaving' last year, lol.

It says something about this town when more people have '[this city] doesn't suck' bumper stickers than affirmative ones([this city] rocks!, etc.). I looked online and apparently there's like four different designs around that theme, denying the city's suckiness. I looked at houston, which has 20 times the inhabitants, and I did not see one single design on the google image search trying to deny the city's suckiness. That speaks volumes, in my opinion, about how people /really/ feel about this town and about the kind of people who /BOTH/ have the means to choose AND choose to live here, lol.

(However... there are some people who do like the city's effectively white monoculture. This is the like the only at-least-semi-major city with that kind of demographics, not including Arizona. At least on the west coast.)

Wow, I can't believe it took this long to make me state some of the reasons why I'm moving. I've been focusing almost exclusively on the awesome benefits of Houston, and failed to mention this place's ample negatives.

The real reasons are really two/three/four/five/six fold.

1) Lack of primary industries in this city. This city doesn't really have any major defining 'profit centers'. I don't really consider medical care a 'primary industry', since that's largely a local industry with little to no export or production, so it tends to be more of a intergenerational redistribution of the wealth rather than an actual generation of wealth. Hence, this city is poor. It's does no particular thing really well, and does everything else mediocre.

2) Can't find anything. You need an I7 processor? Better take a 5 hour drive to Seattle, or wait a week for it to ship to you. Trying to find anything often gets the "We can order it in" line.

3) Climate. Lack of rainfall and 48 degree parallel sunshine means nothing really grows here. Even if you water it to death, it's often tiny and tasteless because the lack of warmth means little sugar production.

4) Airfares are like 2x the cost as it is from major cities. That makes getting to Californian conventions for the day a less economically justifiable practice. [this isn't really a dealbreaker like the last three are]

5) The culture of poverty. The kind of people this city attracts (Fixed income) fosters a 'culture of poverty', which bodes poorly for the economics of anything in this area.

6) Climate. It's cold and coldness just sucks.

Anyway, this location is excellent because it puts me next to a really profitable population center with huge defining industries, is a port town, has everything, has "big city infrastructure" with all its benefits, has a great climate and good rainfall, and you can find almost everything. And, I visited the area and I actually really liked it. Dallas and Houston are two of my favorite cities in Texas.
 
First of all, NOBODY understands women all that well.

swbluto said:
. . . . whether a girl is out of your reach largely depends on whether you think you are.

I didn't say she was out of MY reach. . . .

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Dauntless said:
First of all, NOBODY understands women all that well.

lots of years ago not long before my dad passed away he gave me 1 bit of advice to live by

"son dont try to understand females you will go insane just enjoy them"

never a truer word spoken
 
So hey, hired a mover yet?

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Lol, no, my mover is going to be my SUV. I plan on removing the backseat so I can stuff the back with stuff. I'm not sure what I'll do with the backseat, might just sell it, might just strap it to the roof, lol.

Anyway, new exciting research at the end of page 8! lol.

Did it today. Exciting finds were...

-daily use of garlic and cocoa improved arterial diameter in the longterm (4%,6% respectively.).
-Red wine improved arterial diameter by 9% after one drink, and 18% after two drinks. Longterm affect unknown. (Appears regular ethanol has an identical affect)

Among the FMD increasing substances (But not necessarily arterial diameter).

-Daily consumption of egg whites increased FMD by 15%.
-Daily black tea consumption was associated with an FMD increase by 10-11%.

And the most exciting find ever:

Endurance exercise increases brachial artery diameter by 84%, and resistance training increases aortic diameter by 81%.

Implication: Exercise is like upto 10x more significant than what you eat.

The surprising downer, I found, is that olive oil consumption appears to be bad news. FMD decreased by 30% with regular olive oil use. The longterm impact of regular Extra Virgin Olive Oil consumption is unknown, but I believe the research still showed a negative longterm impact. Would have to check again. Palm oil, Soybean oil showed similar results to regular olive oil. [These substances are ubiquitous in processed foods, even the 'healthy ones'.]

With palm oil being bad, since it's pretty much in the same class as coconut oil and palm kernel oil [same plant], that'd also suggest that cocoa butter is bad [same lipid profile]. Thinking of the kuna with their high cocoa consumption, it is notable they don't consume cocoa butter as in chocolate bars. They steep the beans in hot water, just as coffee is done, and drink the steeped liquid mixed in with some kind of way of sweetening with bananas. They do not, as far as I know, consume the cocoa butter contained within the bean. Eating cocoa beans directly does seem a bit unnatural, and the kind of high-ton machinery needed to press cocoa butter out from the beans is also a bit unnatural, not something the Kuna possess. They do, however, consume coconuts directly and that's their primary source of fat (Other than the fish oil contained in the fish they consume). Other research shows that the body appears to be optimized for coconut consumption.

Assuming humanity started migrating out from equatorial Africa where coconuts are ubiquitous, this might make evolutionary sense. And, according to my African bootcamp bunk mate back in the Navy, they do grow cocoa there, too.

Anyway, I was reading in a subaru periodical, an article on farmsteading in the USA. It showed this one regular caucasian dude who had huge muscles just like I'm developing, lol. I knew this lifestyle meant I was going to become nice and muscular! :lol:

Anyway, it turns out I'm finally gaining weight! The reason: I'm building muscle, lol. I swear, that's the only reason why. I've been eating like this for 3 weeks and have never broke 168, let alone 171. (Of course, I could be gaining weight because of pulmonary edema but I hope not, lol.)

It's a bit interesting that building muscle is causing my BMI to go up. It'd be interesting to think my muscle building could /eventually/ put me in the overweight category, which seems a little ironic.
 
Maybe you're just not getting enough acerbic acid. Not for lack of availability, right?

With the seats out of the soccermom wagon, how are people going to ride along? What if you really do get a date?

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Dauntless said:
Maybe you're just not getting enough acerbic acid. Not for lack of availability, right?

With the seats out of the soccermom wagon, how are people going to ride along? What if you really do get a date?

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That's one method! That's why I might strap the seat to the roof or something, just in case I might use it in the future. I'll need to be toting around at least two people at that point, and the last time I did that was back in the Navy with a couple of friends. That need generally doesn't seem to arise in the civilian world that often...

(That 'small tribe' atmosphere in the military was pretty awesome.)
 
marty said:
swbluto said:
Okay, somewhat random post but I don't know where else to put it, but I met this girl in the bottom of a medical laboratory and she had the creepiest smile I've seen on a girl. Don't get me wrong, this girl was pretty awesome, but I've never seen such a unnaturally thin, wide, huge smile like that on a girl. I've even looked on a google for a similarly creepy smile, and the only ones that come close are facepainted ones. I always thought that perhaps the Nuke Program attracted a lot of "weird girls", but looking back, they seemed to be actually pretty normal in comparison though they tended to be a bit dorky compared to the average female. Which, I didn't have ANY PROBLEMS WITH, lol.

Anyway, just thought I'd mention her smile. It struck me as something quite rare.

However, I will admit that this girl probably doesn't smile that often in public, at least not like that. She probably smiled in her natural way (As opposed to the more reserved public-facing smile that almost all girls have) around me because she felt comfortable and really happy to talk to me, I don't blame her. Little did she know I was going to judge her and talk about her behind her back, lol.
Pictures?

I forgot to ask my parents for a zoey implant when I was born. My bad.

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Okay, with rain and warmth comes some excellent growing opportunities. But, it also comes with mosquitos. And I've read that there's monster mosquitos in the Houston area.

How do deal with these dudes?

First, we must think like a mosquito.

I should do some adequate research before coming up solutions, but that takes work, so who wants to do that? lol

Okay, so I get the impression that mosquitos use CO2 and Octenol to find their prey. Once they find you, I believe at some point they probably use their eyeballs at close distances to find where to land (I could be wrong). That implies, they have poor long distance vision (Otherwise, why would they need to locate CO2 and Octenol clouds?).

Based on this assumption, it seems like the way to economically thwart their discovery of you is to hide your breath.

One way might be portable air compression systems. Carry a portable air compressor and scuba tank on your back, and compress the outgoing breath into the scuba tank.

That's one method.

Another way is to follow the 'old fashioned method' of diving, and wear a mask that allows you to breath in from the outside air (Or down the line, if you will), and then exhale 'down the line'(A hose) which empties somewhere else, ideally some distance away from you. Possibly somewhere 'contained' where mosquitos can't detect it all (or barely).

Wear that mosquito repellent clothing (Permethrin) for the ones that happen to be close enough, and it seems like you should be mostly good to go.

Could be combined with Octenol zappers for additional effectiveness. (But, those have ongoing costs and ongoing costs are best avoided/minimized.)

It's all hypothetical at this point. I don't have mosquitos where I currently live, so I unfortunately can't really test and perfect my ideas out before I go.

Update: 8:59 p.m.

https://www.caltech.edu/news/mosquitoes-use-smell-see-their-hosts-47338

Information gathered from all of these experiments enabled the researchers to create a model of how the mosquito finds its host over different distances. They hypothesize that from 10 to 50 meters away, a mosquito smells a host's CO2 plume. As it flies closer—to within 5 to 15 meters—it begins to see the host. Then, guided by visual cues that draw it even closer, the mosquito can sense the host's body heat. This occurs at a distance of less than a meter.

So, essentially, it seems that one should keep the 'exit point' for the CO2 emissions at least 15-20 meters away. They they won't seek out 'high contrast objects' in your vicinity (Since the CO2 cloud isn't close enough), so they'll never get close enough (within 1 meter) to start searching for a landing spot using their short distance thermal IR sensors. Of course, if one /does/ happen to get close enough (Within 1 meter - 3 feet), they'll see your thermal signature and immediately home in regardless.
 
Mosquitos smell you. Period. They're not interested in your breath, they're interested in biteable areas. The way that anything repellant t them works is that you are made to smell less edible to them. They'd rather go bite someone else. Eating garlic, anti mosquito spray, etc. Only works so far, but the only thing that works.
 
Dauntless said:
Mosquitos smell you. Period. They're not interested in your breath, they're interested in biteable areas. The way that anything repellant t them works is that you are made to smell less edible to them. They'd rather go bite someone else. Eating garlic, anti mosquito spray, etc. Only works so far, but the only thing that works.

Let's examine this more closely.

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https://www.terminix.com/pest-control/mosquitoes/behavior/what-attracts-mosquitoes/

Your breath. In addition to a proboscis that can puncture human skin, female mosquitoes sport long antennae and olfactory (odor-sensing) organs called palps. These instruments are attuned to the odor of carbon dioxide, or CO2, which we produce every time we exhale. High concentrations of CO2, which mosquitoes can detect from more than 150 feet away, offer an initial temptation to hungry mosquitoes. However, CO2 isn’t the only determinant of who gets bitten, and how badly.

Your smell. Entomologists at the University of California, Riverside, have determined that certain odors released via perspiration are more likely to attract mosquitos. Substances such as uric acid, lactic acid and ammonia can also be released by bacteria that live in human skin. And, the higher your body temperature, the more likely you are to sweat. These facts help to account for why mosquito bites will frequently be clustered around the feet, ankles, wrists and hands, as all these areas of the body tend to be exposed to the elements, to collect and retain moisture and to play host to larger bacterial colonies.

They don't mention how far mosquitos can smell your sweat. If it's anything like their thermal imaging equipment, it's not very far. They don't exactly seem to have the large olfactory organs of dogs.

Well, here's another one.

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-scientists-mosquitoes-humans.html

"It was a real surprise when we found that the mosquito's CO2 receptor neuron, designated cpA, is an extremely sensitive detector of several skin odorants as well, and is, in fact, far more sensitive to some of these odor molecules as compared to CO2," said Anandasankar Ray, an associate professor in the Department of Entomology and the project's principal investigator. "For many years we had primarily focused on the complex antennae of mosquitoes for our search for human-skin odor receptors, and ignored the simpler maxillary palp organs."

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2013-12-scientists-mosquitoes-humans.html#jCp

It's too bad the other scientists I linked didn't test these skin odorants. No way of knowing how far it can be smelled.
 
Survey has been completed, just received the closing documents and I'll go to my bank tomorrow to make the cashier's check and send it off to the title company using the provided Fedex shipping label.

Total cost above and beyond the original purchase price (Not including the survey), to the title company, was $322. Not too bad. The realtor's ad was suggesting "About $500 in closing costs", so a bit under that. Nice.

Anyway, I'm slowly compiling my Amazon.com shopping list getting ready for this venture which I'll set out for in about 3-4 weeks.

Someone else recently pointed out an electric power pole about 300 feet down the road at the nearest neighbor, so it's not really a completely "unpowered area" like I supposed. I'm thinking about establishing power from the local power company... but, I'm thinking I really like the idea of energy independence. One less creditor I have to depend on for business operations.

I also don't know how much it'd cost to put in another powerpole, which I'm sure would be necessary. I have a strong feeling the upfront cost would be significantly more than my own power solution.

This area is a pretty nice location. It's 20 miles from houston proper, 20 miles from one of the nicest houston's suburb 'cities', and 15 miles from a nice little town. That's about 10x better of a location that anywhere else I could find. The closest I got to all-the-big-box-stores in other non-desert parts of the state was like 50-70 miles, and it's way better than the winter LTVAs could offer (Quartzsite & Yuma in southern Arizona - It's where many of the Canadian/Northern "Frost Belt" snowbirds migrate to for the winter.).

Anyway, I recently discovered this lot which sounded relatively impressive at 'quarter acre'(Most of the other lots in that price range are .11-.16 acre), is actually just about the same size of this city lot I'm already living on, lol. I guess by 'big city' standards, it's a "Big Lot", but not really by smaller city standards, lol. Oh well, it's still 10 feet longer than my parents lot. :mrgreen: (And, I have something they lack in the city - freedom.)

Still seems like plenty of room for an extensive fruit/vegetable garden. Actually seems to be just about the right size for a single person to work on with hand tools (Removing the vegetation using axes for trees, bush hook for bushes, machetes for vines, using a mottock pickaxe to break ground, and a rototiller to prepare the soil.).

And, I stand corrected. It's not really just... "heavy underbrush"... it's more like densely packed 10-20 ft. trees and bushes, with the occasional 30-100 foot tall tree here and there. There's no way someone could see 30 feet in with how densely packed this forest is. I'll get pictures up when I actually get there. I'm well aware this forest land might be prone to standing water ... I'm only really worried about how high I might need to make the gravel driveway rise...

I'm thinking for the last 10-20 feet of the property, I'll keep it wooded, while using all the left/right for 'the garden' as I please. If I should ever need privacy from side neighbors in the future, I'll install something like an 8 ft. privacy fence.

I'm thinking the effective size of the garden should be around (90'-100')x75'. Around 7000 sq. ft., should be manageable with smaller tools. (No need for a $250 rototiler rental)
 
Here's how I'm (roughly) thinking of the layout.

0-30 ft - Front tree cover
25-45 ft - driveway & living area
45-135 ft - garden
135-150 ft - back trees

Okay, I might have overestimated it. 90x75' = 6750 sq. ft.

The living area is going to be an RV initially, with plans to build as funds accrue. What it's eventually going to be, I want it to be a somewhat stylish brick house with a cute roof. I don't think I'm going to get a trailer like some residents, that's too much funds to put into a depreciating asset; I'd prefer minimal funds going into depreciating assets, thus minimal loss of wealth overtime (The "minimal loss of wealth over time" is also one of the big reasons why I'm not buying into the mortgage game). I want this property to have some kind of resale value, should I exit.

The brick house may eventually extend into a part of the gardening area.

There was another resident nearby that had a really nice brick house on his property. I kind of wonder if he had similar beginnings...

I think really one of the best ways to get a /great/ looking brick house is making the brick a rich red color, and then contrasting it with the whitest white on the window frames, door way, gable, trimmings, etc.; Red and white marry so well together.

This person has the idea.

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If I were to have a wooden house or similar, a darker emerald green and white would be a great color contrast.

I don't really care about the 'front lawn'. I really want 'the lawn' to be one big lawn (Or gardening area, lol). I think separating the front from the back really reduces the size potential. A large 'green area' is way more pleasing, at least to me. I might've been spoiled by the large green savannahs that made up much of Charleston; traveling across 'the savannahs' was pretty nice, felt like I was walking/biking through my ancestral environments.

I remember seeing someone who did that in North houston, from the satellite imagery. He bought a large acreage of forest, and then bulldozed a large circular green prairie in the middle of it, surrounded by forest on all sides. I think he lived/slept in a small abode somewhere near one edge. That looked like a seriously peaceful existence.
 
swbluto wrote:
Here's how I'm (roughly) thinking of the layout.

0-30 ft - Front tree cover
25-45 ft - driveway & living area
45-135 ft - garden
135-150 ft - back trees

Okay, I might have overestimated it. 90x75' = 6750 sq. ft.
I still can't figure what those numbers are. 135-150 means what? Square feet or what? Can't be anything else or you need the lot next door.

Dan
 
DAND214 said:
swbluto wrote:
Here's how I'm (roughly) thinking of the layout.

0-30 ft - Front tree cover
25-45 ft - driveway & living area
45-135 ft - garden
135-150 ft - back trees

Okay, I might have overestimated it. 90x75' = 6750 sq. ft.
I still can't figure what those numbers are. 135-150 means what? Square feet or what? Can't be anything else or you need the lot next door.

Dan

Vertical dimensions, front to back. It's a 75'x150' lot.
 
swbluto said:
DAND214 said:
swbluto wrote:
Here's how I'm (roughly) thinking of the layout.

0-30 ft - Front tree cover
25-45 ft - driveway & living area
45-135 ft - garden
135-150 ft - back trees

Okay, I might have overestimated it. 90x75' = 6750 sq. ft.
I still can't figure what those numbers are. 135-150 means what? Square feet or what? Can't be anything else or you need the lot next door.

Dan

Vertical dimensions, front to back. It's a 75'x150' lot.
Lot is bigger than you said. Still gonna be tight if you do what you plan. Lots of work but could pay out in the end.

Dan
 
DAND214 said:
swbluto wrote:
Here's how I'm (roughly) thinking of the layout.

0-30 ft - Front tree cover
25-45 ft - driveway & living area
45-135 ft - garden
135-150 ft - back trees

Okay, I might have overestimated it. 90x75' = 6750 sq. ft.
I still can't figure what those numbers are. 135-150 means what? Square feet or what? Can't be anything else or you need the lot next door.

Dan

His lot is 75 feet wide. There's Y. X is the first 30 feet of tree cover. (X+h1) is that tree cover and the driveway, h2 is the grow operation that is 6,750 square feet. (What is the annual yield of your particular variety of hemp in Texas conditions?) h3 is the rear cover trees, h4 is the unaccounted for 50 feet of the previously mentioned 200 foot depth.

So the driveway obviously cuts through X, but you're planning a wider landing area in h1?I interpret the trees ending at 30 feet but the driveway widening at 2 as in practice h1 is actually only 15 feet. If the driveway extends 5 feet of h1 that only leaves 10 feet of living space. Those microhomes will work, in fact you can have it to one side and on the other side the driveway goes the full 20 feet, etc.

Unless there's something you forgot to mention of the remaining 50 feet foot depth, I'd remind you that 15 feet of trees in the back will not be hard to see through and there'll be no additional obstructions as in the front, so perhaps a bit more there would be good. Then there's the probably that your "Product" won't thrive there and you might need additional grow area.

I'm sure the brick house you saw was the first thing built on that particular lot, though it's possible he tore down an existing house to build. I see those and other upscale houses popping up around my mother in an out of the way area that's not so out of the way anymore. If you went ahead and built a large house with an attic, there's so many people out there growing indoors under grow lights, etc., that really might be the way to go. With solar power that'll help keep from having a tell tale electric bill, while you can build a cistern system to collect the water coming off the large roof so you don't have the huge water bill.
 
Just got the survey back with the exact dimensions, so it's been 'updated'.

I figured if/when I get a neighbor in the back, I can either put in a security fence or put in some thuja green giants in the back. I'd probably opt for the security fence, because really I'm trying to retain the look of the natural forest. And I figure 15 feet should be good enough. When I first start chopping down trees, I might only take it to 30 feet back, and then I might expand backwards based on the successes/failures of the first years' crops. Or maybe I'll find that's enough for me.
 
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