Comfort Foam saddle water resistant

[tomjasz]

OK Once again worn out searching. One loves it another hates it. What saddle, gel fat arse comfort version, is your favorite.
Selle? RavX, Cloud9? Other options? I'd like to get out for around $50.

Save my arse please! I know about shock absorbing seat posts but need a better saddle first.

 

[zener]

If u want something that lasts than buy this

 

[tomjasz]

Something I don't have to go to Holland for? :wink:

Thanks, nice saddles but finding one is tough. The major sellers are out of stock on the big ass gel.

 

[zener]

Lepper or Brooks make good leather saddles.
Gel saddles wear out fast is my experienze.

Don´t know if aviable in USA but import taxes are low compaired to other.

 

[dogman dan]

Loves pedal forward, now his ass hurts. I like to stand the pedals, never put much more than 25% of your weight on that saddle. Even if too tired to pedal, I stand them.

I don't have a brand name for you, but my preference by far is a saddle with a good open coil spring on the back, similar to the pics above without the front spring. I look for some decent padding, but not squirmy gel. Just some stiff foam.

Crow cycles has some nice choices if you'd like a leather saddle. Not brooks, but in the USA.

 

[tomjasz]

Lepper or Brooks make good leather saddles.
Gel saddles wear out fast is my experienze.

Don´t know if aviable in USA but import taxes are low compaired to other.

Got it on the gel, but EVERY cruiser seat on Lepper site in unavailable, EVERY SINGLE ONE!

I'm impressed enough to keep chasing the seat for a couple of days. I'm calling my UK and NL scooter pals today and tomorrow. Impressive seats! Thanks for that. Oh, and the gel info. Great tip!

http://www.lepper.nl/index.php?content=UHJvZHVjdHM=&cat=4

 

[tomjasz]

Loves pedal forward, now his ass hurts. I like to stand the pedals, never put much more than 25% of your weight on that saddle. Even if too tired to pedal, I stand them.

I don't have a brand name for you, but my preference by far is a saddle with a good open coil spring on the back, similar to the pics above without the front spring. I look for some decent padding, but not squirmy gel. Just some stiff foam.

Crow cycles has some nice choices if you'd like a leather saddle. Not brooks, but in the USA.

Short on memory long on sarcasm. The Trek seat was a half day seat, the new ones are hard. Great at first. If I could STAND on a pedal there would have been no need for a CF. I'd have a nice Pashley or better yet a Focus Urban 2 Gates drive BBS02 750W conversion. All the info is here on ES to make it so. And If I was able I 'd still be on a very sweet Vespa GTS 250, paying more in taxes than my current income, K?. I need to sit.

Mea culpa but occasionally sarcasm just gets under my skin. Especially from a fellow gimp. :lol:

Thanks for the gel tips. It was great in a scooter seat. I never stood on it either. :wink:

 

[tomjasz]

Not brooks, but in the USA.

Taiwan, "Genuine Cow" :lol:

 

[spisska]

Definitely second the recommendation for Crow. Very similar to Brooks saddles, but much cheaper. Make sure you pick up a tin of leather dressing, though. You'll want to treat the leather pretty frequently while you're breaking the saddle in.

 

[alsmith]

Brooks? A well respected brand.

 

[tomjasz]

Definitely second the recommendation for Crow. Very similar to Brooks saddles, but much cheaper. Make sure you pick up a tin of leather dressing, though. You'll want to treat the leather pretty frequently while you're breaking the saddle in.

Brooks? A well respected brand.

Thanks!
I am riding on this style bike due to severe disabilities. I rode on Brooks saddles for many years. Breaking in a leather is not going to happen. IF I were to buy leather it would be Brooks or Lepper. I've seen the Crow saddles and "genuine cow" is nothing like the leather brooks uses, IMO and IME. I REALLY like the Lepper saddles but they are unobtanium in the models I want.

SO, I'm looking at Selle and RavX Anyone use them? The saddles I want are designed for 90 degree sitting position. There are others from Holland that look great but once shipping is added they're half the cost of the new bike!

 

[tomjasz]

Almost done.
Looking for one Lepper for the second bike. This one will be at LBS tomorrow.
Selle Royal Respiro Soft Relaxed Seat. He ordered it today.

 

[SouthWindDuck]

That seat looks so poofy!

It would almost be like riding around on some one else's tush!

 

[tomjasz]

That seat looks so poofy!

Poofy ass, poofy seat. Old guys like poofy.

 

[melodious]

Moot point, but who would call a bike saddle that clearly draws your attention "down there" a "lepper".

Another avenue to look at are the few suspension seatposts (i.e. thudbuster). They give some "cushion for your tooshin"

 

[tomjasz]

Moot point, but who would call a bike saddle that clearly draws your attention "down there" a "lepper".

Minnesotans tend to be better spellers.

Another avenue to look at are the few suspension seatposts (i.e. thudbuster). They give some "cushion for your tooshin"

Yup, likly themmill be nxt.

 

[tomjasz]

Moot point, but who would call a bike saddle that clearly draws your attention "down there" a "lepper".

Another avenue to look at are the few suspension seatposts (i.e. thudbuster). They give some "cushion for your tooshin"

Sheldon Brown site reads,


The Lepper Voyager was a nice saddle in many ways, but we had an excessively high return rate due to breakage of various parts of the undercarriage. For this reason, we no longer sell this saddle.
You might like the Brooks Swift or one of the B.17 series.

 

[dogman dan]

No seat better than a brooks. I never said the crow cycles seats were the equal of a brooks. But they are in the US, it's a good company, and they have the spring seats. Don't know if they are in stock.

What I mean by standing the pedals, is you are sitting on the seat, but pedaling or not, you support about half your weight on the pedals, then the other half is split between seat and bars. So you "stand the pedals" while still sitting in the saddle. The stance is identical to a pro cycle racer. That's how they tolerate those tiny seats. The seat is mostly just a tool for leaning on the bike from side to side.

Pedal forward makes this pretty hard to do, so your ass will be supporting 50% of the weight. Maybe more. Pedal 10,000 miles or more, you will see how much bike fit matters. Move my seatpost up or down 5 mm, and I'm bitching.

I'm very biased against pedal forward because my crushed disks just cannot stand sitting for long periods. Kitchen chair, car seat, bar stool, bike saddle. I can't put 90 pounds of weight on those disks for long periods. Add some road bumps, and the misery really starts.

Standing the pedals, I can suck up the bumps with my legs, and don't feel the shock up my spike like I do with a pedal forward bike.

 

[alsmith]

I got an elastomer suspension seat post up from the bottom end of the ranges and it really helps- I often forget it's there.

Make sure you set the pre-load properly or it can be too hard or too soft- I suppose that also means make sure it has pre-load setting! The thudbuster type have good reviews but make sure there's room for that pantograph mechanism.

 

[jkbrigman]

I'm surprised dogman didn't suggest something from WalMart:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Bell-Sports-Max-Comfort-Seat/1242584?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_bottom&strategy=PWBAB&visitor_id=45992331629&category=0%3A4171%3A133073%3A539397%3A974140&client_guid=56c60134-0bbc-46de-ac07-977fd4453e9b&config_id=0&parent_item_id=5007606&guid=8fcadc1b-82c8-4602-bd47-3795bbedaf6b&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n

I have a giant, cushy schwinn, very similar from WalMart that is comfortable enough to have gotten the wife back on a bike even with hip trouble.

No, these are not so good if you are trying to input a significant fraction of the effort to move the bike. But if you need to spread the load, they work like a champ. Just LOOK at that big pair of suspension springs!

BTW: I'm not idly speculating. I have a very similar seat on the Phat Bike - came stock on it, I've just never felt the need to replace it. I have an even bigger, cushier schwinn seat waiting in the wings in case I ever get motivated. Trying to figure out if I need to go with a bigger or a smaller saddle....

And +1 to the suspension seatpost. i have a cheapie one with the elastomer from the bike shop and it works great. Just make sure you keep the seat post as high as you can stand it on a crank-forward bike or it will squish down and you'll be out of measurement for your legs - which will then mess up your knees.....

I've heard all kinds of love thrown at those fancy european saddles, but I live in the real world.

 

[tomjasz]

As always Dogman, helpful, but I built the bike to suit my needs. Crow and Brooks provide none of the kind of support I need. I'd have mounted a B66, 67, or 68 and never have given it a second thought were they workable. Far more USA vendors sell Brooks and after watching their video's I'd pink pennies and save up to buy their superior product. Their leather and construction techniques are vastly superior. I also feel better about supporting my UK pals. I have a bunch from the scooter decade. BTW CF and FF bike put more than 50% on the seat. Perhaps as much as 75% by some accounts. I think in my case far more. We'll see how it goes. Failures become eBay discounts. Or now perhaps ES deals. I'm a box and tag saver.

Not being a Walmart shopper I didn't check there. I did try a shock type seat post but the best fitting meant I had to get up and on the saddle, before it settles down, not unlike mounting a conventional bike. Defeating the positive effect of the crank forward for me, at least for mounting. So my search continues for the perfect Barco Lounger.

Thanks all,

More to come. Second motor delayed delivery to Thursday. Vendor sent direct signature and I can't be here. $10 upcharge for FedEx to schedule delivery window at my convenience. I have to remember to remind vendors I live in Lower Lumpa. Thousands of dollars in products have been delivered to my porch unmolested for almost a decade. One of the lowest crime rates in the country. I hate sitting and waiting for deliveries. I should be out riding!

 

[alsmith]

..... I did try a shock type seat post but the best fitting meant I had to get up and on the saddle, before it settles down, not unlike mounting a conventional bike. Defeating the positive effect of the crank forward for me, at least for mounting. So my search continues for the perfect Barco Lounger.

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My suspension seatpost doesn't sink much since I put the correct preload on. It's a bit of a pain setting though as you have to keep removing then refitting the seat between each adjustment. Still not as good as a Brooks though. btw The Brooks sinks down when sat on too.

 

[tomjasz]

I guess my memory fails me. I don't remember my brooks as being a significant sag. Thanks again.

 

[alsmith]

I guess my memory fails me. I don't remember my brooks as being a significant sag. Thanks again.

I didn't say and didn't mean significant sag, but it does sag when you sit on it as it takes your weight- just as my elastomer saddle does with the correct preload set.

 

[dogman dan]

FWIW that bell seat linked to earlier particularly sucks. It has a faux spring. It does nothing. Anybody wanting that can have one free, just send me shipping money.

Two types of spring saddles. Open coil compression spring, and a tight looking spring that is a tension spring. Both can be good, but I like the softer feel of the open kind.

This one looks ok, has the tension spring that opens up when you sit.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Schwinn-Quilted-Spring-Bike-Seat/16652482?action=product_interest&action_type=image&placement_id=irs_top&strategy=PWVAV&visitor_id=75672498900&category=0%3A4171%3A133073%3A539397%3A974140&client_guid=9765aa3a-c458-4293-9d33-98bb49d0088a&config_id=2&parent_item_id=1242584&guid=6d51eda9-36ce-44f4-bece-dda0c14b5ea8&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n

I haven't tried one, but people here rave about the thudbuster seatpost.