Common sense things to do to get ready for Coronavirus

[JackFlorey]

Why argue anymore about the feasibility and virtue of these precautions? All of us learned about this science in the Sixth Grade.

Well, at least most of us did. For those who didn't? Reading about basic precautions here (or from a more appropriate site like the CDC) may save a few lives.

 

[markz]

Its hard to not use transit system, but they say dont use it if you dont have to, but lots of people have to use it.
Can just hope they clean the buses and trains really well during the midnight hrs. Maybe they will have to get cleaners on the active trains/buses, will add more cost to the tax payer which is hopefully what the emergency fund is there for.

I heard/read that cruise ships recirculate the air, thats part of the reason why they get hit hard.

 

[HK12K]

Its hard to not use transit system, but they say dont use it if you dont have to, but lots of people have to use it.
Can just hope they clean the buses and trains really well during the midnight hrs. Maybe they will have to get cleaners on the active trains/buses, will add more cost to the tax payer which is hopefully what the emergency fund is there for.

I heard/read that cruise ships recirculate the air, thats part of the reason why they get hit hard.

Cruise ships are floating Petri dishes under the best of circumstances. Complimentary Norovirus is the norm, so it only stands to reason that free Corona would be a big hit onboard.

 

[markz]

This is quite laughable
Howie Mandel wears a hazmat suit to ‘America’s Got Talent’ taping
**Notice the air tube haging LMFAO

https://pagesix.com/2020/03/11/howie-mandel-wears-a-hazmat-suit-to-americas-got-talent-taping/

 

[HK12K]

This is quite laughable
Howie Mandel wears a hazmat suit to ‘America’s Got Talent’ taping
**Notice the air tube haging LMFAO

https://pagesix.com/2020/03/11/howie-mandel-wears-a-hazmat-suit-to-americas-got-talent-taping/



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Gloves must be in short supply.

 

[markz]

USA NATIONAL EMERGENCY
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/trump-declares-a-national-emergency-over-the-coronavirus-after-weeks-of-downplaying-the-threat-of-the-pandemic/ar-BB119NWK?li=AAggNb9

Trump declares a national emergency over the coronavirus after weeks of downplaying the threat of the pandemic

 

[markz]

Bank of Canada cuts rate target to 0.75 per cent in response to COVID-19

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/bank-of-canada-cuts-rate-target-to-075-per-cent-in-response-to-covid-19/ar-BB119Uop?li=AAggNb9

I am in the market for a new house. 5yr fixed was at 2.940% a day or two ago, but hasnt changed to a lower rate today.

Most forecasters axpect another rate drop before June.

https://www.mortgagesandbox.com/mortgage-interest-rate-forecast/

By the end of the month, variable mortgage rates (tied to the Prime Rate) and fixed mortgage rates will both be significantly lower, but since the rate drop came "out of left field" economists are now left scrambling to update their forecast models.

Lower mortgage rates will boost house prices in the short-run but the chances of a recession have risen and a recession will hurt the housing market in the medium-term.

 

[ZeroEm]

SA, TX set up a drive thru testing, first in the State. Wow are they getting up to speed, oh what is this? It's not open to the public and only for emergency workers in an emergency. It's manned but not being used and no test kits. So what's up with that?

 

[HK12K]

Bank of Canada cuts rate target to 0.75 per cent in response to COVID-19

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/bank-of-canada-cuts-rate-target-to-075-per-cent-in-response-to-covid-19/ar-BB119Uop?li=AAggNb9

I am in the market for a new house. 5yr fixed was at 2.940% a day or two ago, but hasnt changed to a lower rate today.

Most forecasters axpect another rate drop before June.

https://www.mortgagesandbox.com/mortgage-interest-rate-forecast/

By the end of the month, variable mortgage rates (tied to the Prime Rate) and fixed mortgage rates will both be significantly lower, but since the rate drop came "out of left field" economists are now left scrambling to update their forecast models.

Lower mortgage rates will boost house prices in the short-run but the chances of a recession have risen and a recession will hurt the housing market in the medium-term.

Our local housing market could crash and burn like a lipo factory and I'd be AO-effing-K with that.

 

[HK12K]

JFC, this is heart wrenching.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/13/italian-doctor-describes-coronavirus-patients-last-calls-to-loved-ones/

 

[formula101]

Why argue anymore about the feasibility and virtue of these precautions? All of us learned about this science in the Sixth Grade (maybe earlier). Save your breath for something worth consideration.

Go back and you'll find that every single one of my posts is backed by scientific research.

Mexicanbeervirus is airborne for 3 hours and remains on surfaces for 3 days. You would have to wash your hands indefinitely (scrubbing thoroughly) and never touch your face.

The reality is, 51 million have been infected this winter alone, with 55,000 deaths and mexicanbeer is supposedly even more virulent. Whatever precautions people are taking, they are clearly not working very well.

Washing hands helps if you are extremely thorough (almost no one is) and ONLY if you never retouch a contaminated surface or airborne droplets.

 

[formula101]

The ignorant will encounter reality whether they are obtuse or not.

OK. Don't wash your hands. I am sure you'll be fine.

Quote me on that where. You can't find it. I did write:

1. very few people wash their hands as thoroughly as CDC recommends. I would say it's at best 10% and that is probably a gross exaggeration (no pun intended).

2. you can become reinfected immediately after washing your hands regardless, for example if the tap is not automated, or by touching the on button for the blower to dry your hands or touching the door knob on your way out. Or, at any point later on via contact with virus droplets in the air or on surfaces.

3. with 55,000 deaths and 51 million infected just this past winter in the US alone, typical real world precautions seem not to be very effective.

 

[markz]

Look at how many people wash their hands after the hit the washroom.
I'd say its more then 10% that dont wash their hands.

 

[2old]

Why argue anymore about the feasibility and virtue of these precautions? All of us learned about this science in the Sixth Grade.

Well, at least most of us did. For those who didn't? Reading about basic precautions here (or from a more appropriate site like the CDC) may save a few lives.

As you know, I agree with you, but seemed to me as though we're wasting our breath on a contrarian. The President's update today emphasized the value of hand washing.

 

[HK12K]

The President's update today emphasized the value of hand washing.

Great, now half of the country is going to stop washing their hands in defiance.

 

[JackFlorey]

1. very few people wash their hands as thoroughly as CDC recommends. I would say it's at best 10% and that is probably a gross exaggeration (no pun intended).

2. you can become reinfected immediately after washing your hands regardless, for example if the tap is not automated, or by touching the on button for the blower to dry your hands or touching the door knob on your way out. Or, at any point later on via contact with virus droplets in the air or on surfaces.

3. with 55,000 deaths and 51 million infected just this past winter in the US alone, typical real world precautions seem not to be very effective.

All good points. #1 can be fixed by better (and more frequent) handwashing. #2 is pretty easy to overcome - don't touch the tap, or the button, or the door with your hands on your way out. #3 can be fixed by doing all those boring things the CDC and the WHO tell you to do - wash your hands, stay home when you are sick, cover your cough, clean frequently.

 

[Dauntless]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/uk/uk-coronavirus-response-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html

That could make an interesting turn of events.


And will the rain create days without the virus in the air? Or will in eventually occupy raindrops?

 

[torker]

Have not been keeping up with this thread.
I did read a message from my dr.
Infuenza kills 0.1 % of people. Covid19 kills 3% approx. But, the numbers for each need to be the same. If it is 5 million from flu and 100k from covid 19. It is going to be different.

As more people contract Covid the percentage that die from hit will drop.
Altough it does seem obvious that Covid is highly contagious, maybe more than flu.

Flu also is seasonal. Covid may be around for months- years.
Different animal..

Am I way off? I don't know.

 

[markz]

It is much worse then comparing it to the Flu. Its the SUPER FLU and lets listen to the professionals and medical dr's. Shits about to hit the fan. Are you stocked up on supplies and is the bunker ready?

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Quote "may not peak until 14 weeks from now -- and that people will not be willing to drastically alter their ways of life and stick to the new rules for over three months"
Meaning???? New laws to restrict peoples democratic freedoms, oh my.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/uk/uk-coronavirus-response-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html

 

[formula101]

Why argue anymore about the feasibility and virtue of these precautions? All of us learned about this science in the Sixth Grade.

Well, at least most of us did. For those who didn't? Reading about basic precautions here (or from a more appropriate site like the CDC) may save a few lives.

As you know, I agree with you, but seemed to me as though we're wasting our breath on a contrarian.

Whose word is more reliable? The top biomedical researchers in the world at Princeton and UCLA or you? I'll take the word of the top researchers on the planet + CDC + NIH over that of an anon with zero qualifications.

 

[formula101]

Have not been keeping up with this thread.
I did read a message from my dr.
Infuenza kills 0.1 % of people. Covid19 kills 3% approx. But, the numbers for each need to be the same. If it is 5 million from flu and 100k from covid 19. It is going to be different.

As more people contract Covid the percentage that die from hit will drop.
Altough it does seem obvious that Covid is highly contagious, maybe more than flu.

Flu also is seasonal. Covid may be around for months- years.
Different animal..

Am I way off? I don't know.

Closer to 3.5% according to WHO.

Also, Mexicanbeervirus has recently mutated into a stronger, more virulent strain.

It is much worse then comparing it to the Flu. Its the SUPER FLU and lets listen to the professionals and medical dr's. Shits about to hit the fan. Are you stocked up on supplies and is the bunker ready?

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Quote "may not peak until 14 weeks from now -- and that people will not be willing to drastically alter their ways of life and stick to the new rules for over three months"
Meaning???? New laws to restrict peoples democratic freedoms, oh my.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/uk/uk-coronavirus-response-boris-johnson-intl-gbr/index.html

If it is, then extreme autocratic measures will be necessary. Martial law. NO public gatherings of any kind, arrests of anyone in public space, and mandatory quarantining of anyone suspected of being infected.

 

[formula101]

No, I'm not a doomsday prepper. But until quite recently, my health was so compromised, I was certain the next flu season would kill me.

Anyway, this all served me well for the flu, while I was so sick I thought a case of flu would end me for sure. For anybody still working, much harder to stay self quarantined.

Corona is much different, It may be around longer than just the winter, its a bit more deadly than regular flu, at least for the older folks. And its going to for sure cause interruptions in supply of things. So I went out and did the stock up. But what to stock up on?

I did buy an extra bottle of tequila. Like milk or eggs, we will have to get wine periodically.

You're trying to give advice on how to stay healthy yet you are hoarding alcohol when you are sick. Yeah, no credibility there.

 

[markz]

So it will be just like North Korea.

Great

If it is, then extreme autocratic measures will be necessary. Martial law. NO public gatherings of any kind, arrests of anyone in public space, and mandatory quarantining of anyone suspected of being infected.

 

[torker]

So it will be just like North Korea.

Great

If it is, then extreme autocratic measures will be necessary. Martial law. NO public gatherings of any kind, arrests of anyone in public space, and mandatory quarantining of anyone suspected of being infected.

I am not book smart. Maybe the school of hard knocks. Did not take long to realize this does not compare to flu.
Question for you all. Can you get flu twice in the same season. Or do you get a different strain? Does flu mutate like Covid has been shown to do?
Sorry, tired. Can't find the right words.
.. Are people getting the same strain of Covid after recovering? Or a different mutation? Seems you can get it after recovering..

 

[formula101]

So it will be just like North Korea.

Great

If it is, then extreme autocratic measures will be necessary. Martial law. NO public gatherings of any kind, arrests of anyone in public space, and mandatory quarantining of anyone suspected of being infected.

We will have far less freedom than North Koreans.