DIY 70V hub motor fat tire build - input wanted, please.

BB_Mike

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Before I start a build thread, I'd like some input on the parts I am looking to order.

e-Bike - I have a Windone E2. 48V, 750W hub motor, 20" fat tire dual suspension, 170mm dropout. Decent bike, gets about 20 miles with minimal pedal, but that duration is getting worse each week.

Hub Motor - 72V, 4500W, 20x4" fat tire that uses a cast spoke/hoop. I think a straight spoke or even a two spoke fat tire like Leaf offers at this power and weight used offroad is sketchy and a bonus is this look will match the factory front wheel nicely. Even the reflector swaps over. :)

Battery - Amorge 16S5P 60V 25AH 120 Amp / 175A peak. Samsung 50S cells. Nice fit for the area.


Recommendations needed:

Motor Controller -
1) Sine Wave.
2) min 200A support. For longer life into other future projects.
3) Easy learning curve with speed limiting (45mph, but might stretch it out once or twice for YouTube likes, ha. it's still a piggy fat tire though).
Something like the ND72200 FarDriver Controller with Bluetooth, 72V, 200A Battery, 200A Phase

Kit -
1) Full grip twist throttle
2) DKD display
3) Head light I have, but need to control it.
4) Blinkers would be nice for this little bit of road I have to go on to get to the park.
If you have some suppliers or direct links, please share. I love this kit here, but it only comes with the motor and the amps are overkill: FarDriver 72450 Controller | Fat Tire House


Basically, I want to get the controller + display + thumb controls as closely packaged as possible to avoid wiring complexity.
Oh, and what is your recommendation for Battery connectors? Charge Connector XLR, Discharge Connector: QS8
I am going to order that now because of the lead time. I can solder/crimp build cables. Is there a popular choice that will make life easier versus some outdated nonsense?
 
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Thanks E-HP. +1 brain for you!

I think the first far driver I put up above would limit me on line Amps. The battery can do 120A/175A peak.

While I won't live at that max line, I do want to get a controller that can grow to do more later and live longer.

360 Amps phase, 170 Amps line


That controller plus a dkd display and a throttle should be all I need. I am waiting on some quotes. Hoping to hear more from you all on the sanity check.
The wild card here is a somewhat undefined hub motor on that rear wheel. but it just looks sooooo good. :) I wouldn't have any information to put into the grin simulator.
 
what is your recommendation for Battery connectors?
I was going to suggest:
  1. Genuine XT90s. There was just recent (as in today) discussion about it. Added Bonus: Built-in antispark feature.
  2. Otherwise, Genuine Anderson PowerPole 45, crimped and assembled correctly. NOTE: Big quality difference between genuine and cheap counterfeit knock-offs.
But maybe not, depending on your amperage requirements.

For charging connector, how many amps is your charger?
 
I was going to suggest:
  1. Genuine XT90s. There was just recent (as in today) discussion about it. Added Bonus: Built-in antispark feature.
  2. Otherwise, Genuine Anderson PowerPole 45, crimped and assembled correctly. NOTE: Big quality difference between genuine and cheap counterfeit knock-offs.

I think Anderson SB50 is a better alternative to XT90 (better than XT90) whereas Powerpole 45 is a lesser choice. 72/4500 suggests at least 63A, unless it's nominal, in which case we could be looking at 125A. PP45 won't do that.

That bike is a pretty wretched use of such power. The stupid mag wheel is toast if it hits anything surprising at 40mph+.
 
I do like the XT150 for the amount of contact area when seated. I have some Anderson's laying around that I can use as well and my crimper does them nicely. For the charge part, I am thinking XLR. I like that there are so many options for those, and you can get a panel mount locking version for the bike side. It also give more strain relieve for the charger cable end side to "pull" from versus the wiggle-pull-wiggle. Good to know nothing has changed too much in that realm.

As for the bike. It is surprisingly solid. Heavy, but solid. I agree the mag/potted metal wheels are a weak point. But it is dual suspension and I keep the tires low on psi when riding off pavement. I also do not wheel offroad with rocks or technical areas. I have other bikes for that which are much lighter. By off-road here, I mean improved trails. 80% of it's life will be bike paths.

If I shred the bike, I'll have a nice battery and controller to start off with on the next build. I have an itch to do an old school mongoose BMX or Rad movie bike clone.

So no worries on the combo other than money wasted, like all my hobbies. :D
 
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I just heard from Lunyee that the dropout of their wheel is 175mm. My bike's dropout is 170mm.

Can that be overcome with a little spreading of the rear frame dropout? I would have to shim my brake caliper a bit, but that should only be half of 5mm, which is in the realm of grinding and or washers. I have had the opposite problem and jsut used steel torque arm bracket to fill the void.

ps. I hate tariffs.
 
Try loosening the nuts on your motor and see how much you can spread them by hand to get an idea. Easier if the swingarm is steel, but 5mm is probably fine if it’s aluminum. Their 175mm may only be the axle flats, so you may still need a washer inside the dropouts on each side, so spreading even more. Do they have a diagram?
 
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