Electronic front brakes

[Zambam]

I recently bought this Wawscote scooter as my first standup to try out. It has a rear motor and rear drum brakes but the front has "electronic brakes". With the front wheel off the ground, if I spin it (by hand), I do notice the wheel stops faster with power on vs power off.

How does this electronic brake work? I see a thick wire cable going into the front wheel which must be for the electronic brake. The yellow lens is just a reflector, not a LED light strip and there is nothing else that needs power in the front wheel.

I have yet to test its stopping distance from its 18 mph top speed. I'd gather it's not going to be good.

 

[mrmojorising]

That cable looks to be for the front motor wires. You can see the writing on the side says 3x 1.2mm (which will be the three phase cables) + 6x ... (For the hall and temp sensors)

If it has ebraking, it will just be using regen

 

[Zambam]

That cable looks to be for the front motor wires. You can see the writing on the side says 3x 1.2mm (which will be the three phase cables) + 6x ... (For the hall and temp sensors)

If it has ebraking, it will just be using regen

There is no motor in the front! Just one in the rear.

 

[Apartunis]

There is no motor in the front! Just one in the rear.

Have you removed the front wheel to confirm that? Could the manufacturer be using a hub motor in front as a brake alone? That is close to what it would take to have an effective electric brake.

 

[mrmojorising]

As Apartunis mentioned, It's possible that it's just a tiny motor only used for braking purposes. I'm not sure whether that's a common thing, but that wire is definitely for an electric motor

What model is the scooter? The one you linked above clearly has a front motor

 

[Zambam]

What model is the scooter?

Wawscote W3

 

[mrmojorising]

It's definitely a front motor scooter then, not sure how you're spinning the rear wheel because the rear only has a drum brake

Are you sure you don't have your fronts and rears confused

 

[ak136]

I wouldnt be surprised if for your scooters model price is x and for the all wheel drive x + y price

But they just change it in software and for the x price you get only rear wheel drive and front wheel regen

 

[Zambam]

AI Overview


The Wawscote W3 electric scooter features a rear-wheel drive motor (a rear hub motor). [1, 2]
Motor and specs summary:

• • Drive type: Rear-wheel drive
  • Motor power: 350W rated (500W peak) brushless motor
  • Braking system: Electric front braking and rear drum/mechanical braking [1, 2, 3, 4]

 

[ak136]

Classic AI slop
First sentence it tells you its rear wheel drive
Last sentence it tells you its rear drum braking

 

[mrmojorising]

Why AI when you have the scooter on hand? You can just check it yourself

Is this a weird troll post or something?

 

[fechter]

You could trace the wire coming from the front and unplug the connector. Use a meter set for AC volts and measure across any two of the 3 wires while turning the front wheel. See if you get a voltage.

It appears like it's using a front motor for braking only. If the braking setup is good, it will send some power back to the battery when braking.

If it does have a front motor, then there would be the possibility of adding a controller so you could drive both wheels and get twice the power.

 

[rafalg]

the picture on Amazon product page answers the tricky question, i think...
But maybe it's AI generated too