Florescent bulbs suck, sorta.

[Reid Welch]

Did I just read a cy-en-tif-ical genius just 'splain about the spectrum of visible light, and all in such
good words, that even STUFU reid coun unnner-stand it all?

THEN did I hear the word "puck" in an adjacent posting?

And did not Mr. Tyder Durden not come in, per the usual, and offer a link to FLOOD light style LED lamp-er-roos,
all ready for the market.

And so we all inhale mercury every day. NO WONDER we all is KRAZY.

For, I am PUCK, himself. I am! I never lie


down! Ha ha ha!

"the reid" poses as PUCK, which, you all know, is Shakespeare's naughty, udder-name for F-u-see-k!

http://www.poetrycritical.net/read/57923/
Yep, must be "the reid" at work...no! It's fake Barney Fife! NO, it's PUCK,

and he ain't no hockey puck, no sirs! And he's a 40W incandescent run at 140VAC instead of 110VAC,
which we all know, makes for a VERY bright forty-watter, at the ex-pense of burning life-time.

The whole joke of the poem is in Shakespeare's thinly veiled
NAUGHTY speech of "The Fairy=,

speaking of the CHURN plunger-pushing buttermaid,
her, thinking of DUCKING ACTION, oh please PUCK,
puck me to-night! Anyone? And the churn plunger,
going faster and faster as she sweats, not so much over the hard work,
as she sweats over =realizing= her hard dreams to, please, please, come true!

AND all of the original Shakesperian-era auditors UNDERSTOOD just what
The Fairy's Speech was and IS, today, still about: PUCKING, dreams of good
PUCKS,
— Reid_Welch

And this is all about light bulbs...the good lights yet to come:


:wink:

You all outshine the sun.
Your CRI indexes are as near to the sunshine
as is that old Carbon Arc sunlamp I YT embedded earlier.

Sparkle On, Ye of Great Expectations!
EAT more MERCURY.
You may even RUN faster for it! Mercury, the God of Speed,

no amphetamines needed. QUICK SILVER, away!

Cheers, not from The Lone Ranger...but:

PAR...not the old type of sealed-reflector beam incandescent, but, from:

P.A.R
(Puck AS Reid)

 

[deronmoped]

Does anyone think the Edison base will be around after all those incandescents are banned? I believe once they ban the incandescent the Edison base will not be as popular. People purchase fixtures based on the look they are trying to get in a room or outside their house. The florescent bulbs have no style, people will end up picking a fixture with a different style base because it will use a incandescent that has not been banned. Sure there are fixtures where you can not see the bulb so it does not matter what you have in there, but once the manufactures start to use other style bases so they can incorporate the cute incandescent bulbs people like, they would probably phase out the Edison base in their fixture line.

So what I'm getting at is, the government meddling will only shift power consumption to other then Edison style base fixtures. We will all still be using the incandescent bulbs, but they will be of the low voltage type, the odd base style 120VAC ones...

Deron.

 

[deronmoped]

The mercury issue is not a wash and never will be. There are a lot of areas of the country that do not use coal fired power plants. Hydroelectric, solar, wind, natural gas, geothermal plants are not going to be a wash when it comes to justifying mercury use.

I can not understand these huge savings people are getting from florescent bulbs, what do you guys have like twenty lights blazing all night long? One bulb might save you fifty cents a month, wow. Turn the A/C down few degrees and you would probably save a hundred. Or you could even try the light switch.

Deron.

 

[Reid Welch]

Does anyone think the Edison base will be around after all those incandescents are banned? I believe once they ban the incandescent the Edison base will not be as popular. People purchase fixtures based on the look they are trying to get in a room or outside their house. The florescent bulbs have no style, people will end up picking a fixture with a different style base because it will use a incandescent that has not been banned. Sure there are fixtures where you can not see the bulb so it does not matter what you have in there, but once the manufactures start to use other style bases so they can incorporate the cute incandescent bulbs people like, they would probably phase out the Edison base in their fixture line.

So what I'm getting at is, the government meddling will only shift power consumption to other then Edison style base fixtures. We will all still be using the incandescent bulbs, but they will be of the low voltage type, the odd base style 120VAC ones...

Deron.

Dear Deron, in my opinion (am not addressing your full post, to which all others should re-refer, the Edison Base will remain the de-facto standard for decades more to come.

It has been the USA standard since about 1880, and has never altered, it is that good at basis:

easy to screw in in the dark, from atop a stepladder, off-axis. It works. It is not-improvable.
It is perhaps the most enduring-GOOD refinement of the nineteenth century. The Edis-Swan base of Europe is equally good, and at old.

Now, mini lamps and such do not need Edison bases (miniature, intermediate, standard and Mogul). They can use bi-pins or other fixture mounts (halogen track lighting)
HOWEVER, BILLIONS of old fixtures in old homes, lamps and porch lights, are fitted with Edison standard-socket bases. Replace them all? Eventually, sure, but not in our lifetimes.

There will be a want to KEEP the old fixtures for centuries to come, and so, the Edison based LED cluster bulb to come (it's already here) will replace the incandescent.


BTW! Let us LOOK, now, at the World's Oldest Continuously Operating Incandescent.
It has been glowing as a night light since about the year 1902, original socket and cord, and all:

LIVE CAM:

http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm
See it living on, there, and its story, and how it was made,
and why it lives on and on and on. ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN YEARS glowing,
almost never "off".

Amazing Edison-based light bulb, the most famous survivor of the world!

Wanna see a ca. 1912 street light early-tungsten Mogul Base bulb in action?
I can do! I have one (it's very rare, and NOS, and it works!)
Can YT any old bulb around here, and will!

Joy!

 

[Reid Welch]

http://www.centennialbulb.org/facts.htm
Facts

* Age: 106 years and counting (as of 2007)
* Installed: First installed at the fire department hose cart house on L Street in 1901. Shortly after it moved to the main firehouse on Second. In 1903 it was moved to the new Station 1 on First and McLeod, and survived the renovation of the Firehouse in 1937, when it was off for about a week. During it's first 75 years it was connected directly to the 110 Volt power line, and not to the back-up generator for fear of a power surge. In 1976 it was moved with a full police and fire truck escort, under the watch of Captain Kirby Slate, to its present site in 1976 at Fire Station 6, 4550 East Ave., Livermore, California. It was then hooked to a seperate power source at 120V according to Frank Maul, Retired City Electrician, with no interuptions since.
* Proof of Longevity: From local newspaper records; also GE engineers researched it. Was donated to the Fire Department in 1901 by Dennis Bernal who owned the Livermore Power and Light Co.
* Vital Statistics: The improved incandescent lamp, invented by Adolphe A. Chaillet, was made by the Shelby Electric Company. It is a handblown bulb with carbon filament. Approximate wattage-4 watts. Left burning continuously in firehouse as a nightlight over the fire trucks. For some research test results on a sister bulb at Annapolis follow this link.
* Recognition: Declared the oldest known working lightbulb by Guinness Book of World Records. Ripley's Believe-It-or-Not in 1972 researched it and declared it the oldest. Charles Kurault of the TV program "On the Road with Charles Kurault" visited the bulb in the 1970s and included it in his book as well. Declarations from the President of the U.S., Congress, Senate, State Senate and Assembly, and Shelby Ohio.In 2007 it was again recognized in Guiness, and Ripleys books.
* Closest Competitors: The Second longest bulb was listed in the 1970 Guinness Book under the heading Most Durable says that "on 21 Sept 1908 a stagehand named Barry Burke at the Byers Opera House, Fort Worth, Texas screwed in a new light bulb and that it was still burning". The building was renamed the Palace Theatre, and the light was known as the Palace Bulb ever since. It now resides in the Stockyards Museum, and will have been burning for 100 years Sept of 2008. A website is in the works.
The Third, a bulb in a New York City hardware store had been working since 1912, but it is unknown if it still works today.
The Fourth is known as "the bulb" which like ours, burns in a firehouse in the town of Mangum, Oklahoma. It has been in operation since around 1926, has no special power conversions, and is turned on and off with normal use.
The Fifth was a bulb in a washroom at the Martin & Newby Electrical Shop in Ipswich, England was dated from 1930 and burned out in January 2001.
For more info on these follow this link to Roadside America, or Wikipedia.
* Future Plans: The City of Livermore and the Livermore-Pleasanton Fire Department intend to keep the bulb burning as long as it will. They have no plans at present what to do with the bulb if or when it does burn out. Ripley's has requested it for their museum.
* Visiting: You can visit the bulb depending on the availability of the Firemen on hand. Go to the rear of the station and ring the bell. If they are in someone will answer the door. Otherwise you can see the bulb if you look through the window up on the top of the wall to your left. To contact them directly you may call the LPFD at (925) 454-2361.
* Celebration: We commemorated its centennial on Friday, June 8, 2001 at the fire station. The celebration was from 5 to 8 p.m. with a community BBQ and program. Three bands provided a variety of music, ranging from 1900 era, 1950s music, and a contemporary rock music group. Please see the celebration gallery for all the pictures.
For more information contact the Lightbulb Centennial Chairman Lynn Owens at (925) 447-9477, Webmaster Steve Bunn at (510) 538-8207, or email Bulb@lpfire.org

(Information provided by Livermore Lightbulb Centennial Committee 12/2005)

THE Ladies who made this bulb:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohscogs/shelbymuseum/ShelbyMuseum3.html
Reid honours these clean-working women:

The Portrait-Maker Eases 1900 Women
Reid Welch

Thank you all for gracing our
1
establishment. Before you sit
2
or stand—your choice—we assure
3
results you'll like. I give this little
4
speak each day—a cheerful monologue.
5


So often subjects say one thing
6
whilst their eyes betray a terror that
7
the likeness will be—well! Relax
8
if you will—inspect our art. Petite
9
samples in our albums lead to larger
10


scale works up the hall—down which
11
as you will—you may all proceed.
12
Note in passing looks you like—
13
looks you need to please assume
14
for a remounted monocle's
15
mere objective stare.
16


Here now is the most-prime
17
truth: no lady ever is—
18
any less than charming
19
beauty—yes—without
20
and more within
21
every face that we espy.
22

28 Jul 07

~~~~~~~~~~~

The oldest always-on incandescent light
Reid Welch

" At this time of record
1
it is near to midnight.
2


The pupil of an eye dilates,
3
as does a camera iris to
4


present a haloed glow—
5
in the night for upturned eyes,
6


to see in form, the shapes I see";
7
recalls Woman in her Moon.
8

4 Aug 07

 

[deronmoped]

Man I hate those LED tail lights.

Every follow one of these newer cars with the huge tail lights made up of tons of LED's. Your eyes are drawn to it and then you look away and persistence of vision kicks in, like LSD man, Ha, Ha, cool dude.

And do I really need to see that the guy five miles ahead of me just put on his brakes?

Deron.

 

[deronmoped]

Does anyone think the Edison base will be around after all those incandescents are banned? I believe once they ban the incandescent the Edison base will not be as popular. People purchase fixtures based on the look they are trying to get in a room or outside their house. The florescent bulbs have no style, people will end up picking a fixture with a different style base because it will use a incandescent that has not been banned. Sure there are fixtures where you can not see the bulb so it does not matter what you have in there, but once the manufactures start to use other style bases so they can incorporate the cute incandescent bulbs people like, they would probably phase out the Edison base in their fixture line.

So what I'm getting at is, the government meddling will only shift power consumption to other then Edison style base fixtures. We will all still be using the incandescent bulbs, but they will be of the low voltage type, the odd base style 120VAC ones...

Deron.

Dear Deron, in my opinion (am not addressing your full post, to which all others should re-refer, the Edison Base will remain the de-facto standard for decades more to come.

It has been the USA standard since about 1880, and has never altered, it is that good at basis:

easy to screw in in the dark, from atop a stepladder, off-axis. It works. It is not-improvable.
It is perhaps the most enduring-GOOD refinement of the nineteenth century. The Edis-Swan base of Europe is equally good, and at old.

Now, mini lamps and such do not need Edison bases (miniature, intermediate, standard and Mogul). They can use bi-pins or other fixture mounts (halogen track lighting)
HOWEVER, BILLIONS of old fixtures in old homes, lamps and porch lights, are fitted with Edison standard-socket bases. Replace them all? Eventually, sure, but not in our lifetimes.

There will be a want to KEEP the old fixtures for centuries to come, and so, the Edison based LED cluster bulb to come (it's already here) will replace the incandescent.


BTW! Let us LOOK, now, at the World's Oldest Continuously Operating Incandescent.
It has been glowing as a night light since about the year 1902, original socket and cord, and all:

LIVE CAM:

http://www.centennialbulb.org/photos.htm
See it living on, there, and its story, and how it was made,
and why it lives on and on and on. ONE HUNDRED AND SEVEN YEARS glowing,
almost never "off".

Amazing Edison-based light bulb, the most famous survivor of the world!

Wanna see a ca. 1912 street light early-tungsten Mogul Base bulb in action?
I can do! I have one (it's very rare, and NOS, and it works!)
Can YT any old bulb around here, and will!

Joy!

Please then comprehend it.

I said the Edison base would not be as popular.

It's more then just the socket that makes it popular, it also has to do with the incandescent that goes into it that makes it popular. The bulb is extremely cheap, comes in all kinds of sizes, wattage's, shapes, you name it and it probably comes in one form or another in a incandescent Edison base bulb. Get rid of the bulb and what are you left with, a good base with some ugly looking CFL that no one wants in their light fixture hanging over the formal dining room table.

CFL's are just not going to cut it when you use the bulb as part of the beauty of a fixture.

Deron.

 

[Reid Welch]

"Glow little glow-worm,
Glimmer, shimmer..."
http://tinyurl.com/nba2k5
(lyric as rendered by The Mills Brothers)

[youtube]hKBQ1mHTFa4[/youtube]
1902 brought forward to 2009 by magic Woman!

 

[Reid Welch]

(SNIPPO to the heart of Deron's message
...CFL's are just not going to cut it when you use the bulb as part of the beauty of a fixture.

Deron.

Absolutely true and agreeable.
LOOK at that special-designed DOWNLIGHT, Shelby Electric design?
It was made for night-lighting, and its special filament was made to cast light mostly DOWN,
and it was designed to not evaporate its carbonized filament, not for many a year.
It is lumen/watt inefficient. But, clearly and positively, it LASTS.
And women put it all together. Men only did the design work.
WOMAN had the patience and skill to hand-assemble all the bits
and insert her very soul into the humble, eternal device.

A-WOO-men!

 

[ngocthach1130]

I hear a lot of people complain about how fluorescent do not last as long as they claim. Biggest problem i see is because people buy compact fluorescent that use incorporated compact ballast so the can screw into existing fixture at home. Frankly that idea suck. Putting the ballast right next to the heat producing component will burn it out. i don't understand what's with the people who engineer this stuff. Like iMac. Putting the hot cpu/computer right next to the hot LCD screen.

Anyway, I've been using the 4 feet tube fluorescent for years and nothing breaks or burn out. I notice only slight reduction in light output after 4-5 years. That and if you use electronic ballast you shouldn't have the flickering problem, Most people still believe fluorescent flicker when first turned on electronic ballast also remedy this.. I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color. Don't know how people put up with those 60watt incandescent and the yellow room. Everything looks fuzzy.

Yes fluorescent is a small saving in energy. But I don't look at it as the only thing i should do to conserve, it's a step in the better direction.

 

[Reid Welch]

I hear a lot of people complain about how fluorescent do not last as long as they claim. Biggest problem i see is because people buy compact fluorescent that use incorporated compact ballast so the can screw into existing fixture at home. Frankly that idea suck. Putting the ballast right next to the heat producing component will burn it out. i don't understand what's with the people who engineer this stuff. Like iMac. Putting the hot cpu/computer right next to the hot LCD screen.

Anyway, I've been using the 4 feet tube fluorescent for years and nothing breaks or burn out. I notice only slight reduction in light output after 4-5 years. That and if you use electronic ballast you shouldn't have the flickering problem, Most people still believe fluorescent flicker when first turned on electronic ballast also remedy this.. I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color. Don't know how people put up with those 60watt incandescent and the yellow room. Everything looks fuzzy.

Yes fluorescent is a small saving in energy. But I don't look at it as the only thing i should do to conserve, it's a step in the better direction.

Yes.
I think they tend to live longer when mounted Base Down, and so, the electronics are not so-baked, as when used as down-lights.

CFLs have their ups and down and ins and outs, for sure.

Most old-school table lamps are base-down mounts, and near-ideal for the CFL, yes?
And their shades (old shool lamps, mind you) hide the FUGLY CFL piggy-tail curls.

May Dog bring us good, bulb like LED arrays, standard based, CHEAP TO BUY, lamps soon, forever...for the next generation.

And new style lamps of small and modern design should be both stylish and compact and cool (not HOT) like mini-halogens, etc and etc.

my op-onions. I cry when I slice 'em.

r.

 

[Miles]

I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color.

You're joking?

 

[Reid Welch]

I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color.

You're joking?

Miles is right.
No matter how we "mix" phosphors, there are, as with LEDs, great, gaping "holes" in the color rendering index.

Not so with carbon arc. Not so bad with over-driven tungsten.
But, fluorescent, backlit LCD monitors: true colors sadly lack by comparison with the old processes.

And the old, now passe, CRT monitors, though with screens of phosphor dots directly excited,
instead of by the LCD process, were and much better than today's "coming thing: LCD backlit by diffused "white" fluorescent lamping.

The best I've seen is our three year old Sony 57" INCANDESCENT, back-lit, LCD television.
It beats all others that I've seen in the stores, on display, or the new, kitchen TV: LCD backlit with fluorescent "white": it's nothing but a today-only computer monitor
with a TV tuner built in. It is "dead" looking.
Samsung, about 22" diagonal: it's dim and lifeless compared to the incandescent-backlit Sony...whose lighting (rear projection LCD),
is, too, sadly obsoleted, now by cheaper, "flatter" sets made today.
And plasma? That's just oodles of tiny fluorescent bulbs, each one with some "holes" in its CRI, and which grow dimmer with use.

[youtube]EV9a9Y0ei0s[/youtube]
Imagination is required to slog through some fifth-rate PIRATE version of this otherwise lost-to-us, clip, to even begin to comprehend
how beautiful this was in first-generation form, in the theater, in eye-candy color and superb vivacity,
seventy five years ago. Very early three strip Technicolor. Audiences had seen color since 1929.
But, this new (1934) perfection of the process, made people gasp: colours brighter and more "real" than life, itself.

Some critics said "it's too good to look real". They had a point. But, do you go to the movies today and note how 'dead' and lifeless
and dreary most films are coloured today? It's the processing, plus bad taste in film processing.

People don't much want to go OUT to see a color-lacking film;
to see dull, dreary stuff. They want escape and larger than life players, and in VIVID colour. But, the Technicolor era had to end, around 1950:
it was just too expensive. Yet, the colours never, ever fade.
Cliff here is a familiar voice, right? You know him as Jiminy Cricket, no doubt. He was much more than a cartoon character voice.

Cigarette, anyone? "Hotdogs hang onto mustard..."

The best forever: Old technicolor three strip, projected through by carbon arc, not zenon gas discharge lamps, which for the past twenty years or so,
have run the running-down theaters that fewer and fewer of us bother to attend...we can stay at home and watch third-rate video of "HD" that in no way
equals what theater goers in 1940 could enjoy in Technicolor, at the corner Bijou. WE don't know the difference because WE have never seen the real-deal,
not many of us have, anyway.

:|

 

[Reid Welch]

My toy, tiny, model "HOG" brand stirling,
lighting a single, white LED, using DIRECT DRIVE (the best of three methods tried)
Power? A tiny flame of meths/wood alcohol mix, USA brand, converted to a half watt or so of
electricity: enough light to make objects in the room visible!

Fun!

[youtube]-I582ha_W7M[/youtube]
The "generator" appears to be a high-turns, low current,
DC motor surplused from old-school toy cassette tape players.
its brushes are mere, fine bronze spring wire rubbing against the
two (or is it four) segment commutator. Ferrite magnets inside.
Runs on its own at about, oh, 200rpm at 3VDC. So...motor becomes
low current, "high" (about 4VDC?) generator when spun.
Compare the mechanical-drive relative efficiencies, if interested,
between this best-result, against rim drive and band drive.
Conclusion: LEDs =do= make quite a lot of pretty good light for the power
that they require.

 

[Reid Welch]

[youtube]vYuiLlXX4t4[/youtube]

 

[Reid Welch]

Man I hate those LED tail lights.

Every follow one of these newer cars with the huge tail lights made up of tons of LED's. Your eyes are drawn to it and then you look away and persistence of vision kicks in, like LSD man, Ha, Ha, cool dude.

And do I really need to see that the guy five miles ahead of me just put on his brakes?

Deron.

Yeah, dude you do because I am red color blind to where I only see red as being about one seventh as bright as you Normals see.
My kind represents something like two to eight percent of all the caucasian breed of dog, which includes latinos, as well--they are as "white" as I am.

I wish I were black or Normal, and red light showed up bright, instead:


during the daytime hours I cannot see red stop lights at all. I see a black hole in a yellow box.
That tells me "red light, stop!"
I can see green fine during the day.

At night, I can see red lights from a mile away, but green lights look same color as white street lights.
Again, I have to be aware, very aware of intersections and traffic signals...and tail lights, red, during the day.

Otherwise, BAM, you are rear ended...and I don't mean in the sexual way, dude.
For me, if red lights were all BLUE or YELLOW, then yes: from five miles away, day or night, I'd see those colors pretty damned good.
This natural, genetic trait is why I did not become an airplane pilot, or pro electronics technician: can't see, reliably, two important colors.
I can see "red" but its dim. And matchin sox? Forget that. Maroon looks black to me, except in the brightest sunlight....but who wears maroon sox anymore?
I sure don't---I could never reliably match a pair of red to black sox, back in the sixties when kids wore dark red sox.

I fail every "colorblind" test: red green colorblind, but only partially so. All is relative. I see bright red sportscars,
but that color does not grab my eye, not at all: fire engine red is a dull, somber color.

YELLOW is my car's color and it's my biking shirt color during the daylight hours; white, bright white, for night rides.

:|

Vision impaired but not stupid,

reid

 

[Anonymous]

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[ngocthach1130]

I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color.

You're joking?

Actually no. If you get the proper fluorescent tube it is much more pleasing to the eye. This is comparison to incandescent where you get the yellow, orange glow.

 

[Miles]

I love fluorescent because how it correctly render color.

You're joking?

Actually no. If you get the proper fluorescent tube it is much more pleasing to the eye.

Quite possibly, depending on your "eye", but that's a completely different issue

 

[dnmun]

the 4' bulbs come in a number of colors, or temperature rating is how they do that. some are bright white like the super hot LEDs too, but not so expensive. that is the biggest problem with leds now, the cost and that is dropping all the time.

the guys in the firehouse can leave the light on all the time because they don't have to pay the bills. they get everything for free.

consumption in the US is about 4 teraWatthours of consumption, we need to get that to .7-1teraWatthours. the waste of electricity in this country is beyond belief, pollutes the galaxy, most people will be born, grow up, and die and never ever see the night sky or even know what the milky way is because of the light pollution is so extensive in this country. just so incredible that people are so addicted to free energy.

 

[ngocthach1130]

Yeah around here i see lots of wasted energy in public facility too. Even at closed hours. Such place like public schools and library. Maybe it's to deter vandalism but it's a huge waste. I would pass the high school at 12pm or 2 in the morning and i see the interior is fully lit. Pretty sure no janitor is working at that hour so they can't justify it being on for cleaning.

 

[deronmoped]

One big mistake I made when trying to conserve money on my electrical bill was to install lower wattage lighting. I soon realized I could not see everything as good. What I ended up doing after installing the lower output florescents was to add desk reading lamps. Even with adding the desk lamps I probably still saved a little money on my bill, but not as much as you would expect from all the claims.

Deron.

 

[deronmoped]

I was reading about saving energy/money on my electrical bill and someone made a good point.

The utilities are monopolies, if we drive down the amount of energy we use, they will just increase the cost. They are not going to take a cut in what they bring in, they will just raise their prices stating they have fixed costs that can not be cut. We will complain, but that will fall on deaf ears.

Deron.

 

[ngocthach1130]

Yes but you're looking at it at different point of view. One is energy conservation and the other is energy cost reduction. Yes going green sometime come at a premium. Case in point is hybrid car. They cost quite a bit more than regular ICE car. I'm looking at it as being responsible to the environment. You're looking at it as a way to reduce your monthly cost.

 

[Reid Welch]

There is nothing like revisiting the past to see what people used.

This Lampe Pigeon operates on GASOLINE/PETROL, and was in production for decades, until about 1915.
I made this tiny video. The lamp is burning naphtha. It is a gift now to a young English chap,
who does all his night work by oil lamp light, even computing, writing, he uses no bulbs for lighting.

[youtube]Md97nZgFMG4[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md97nZgFMG4

ReidOphone
September 18, 2008
See it in this movie: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Category: Science & Technology
Tags:
lampe pigeon lamp kerosene gasoline petrol vapor
vapour french france invention technology light
superior durable safe explosion non-explosive

Man has always needed light at night.
Still in living memory, barely, is the oil or petrol lamp of the ancients.

ADDENDUM: I promised this lamp to James, two years ago, wasn't it JAMES, peer?
FOR THAT WE ARE,
though dif...in age;
yet oft' it's said of Youth and Age:

"the only dif. is a calcu-lu...,
so near in numbers, yet far from thee
small people, to whom..what? three decades count?
as if THAT were a distance

on the order of a Count
of five or more hundred years ago.


No...James, my friend, we are the same age;
of an age and way, long gone, but, kept alive,
and so, in a sense, we two, we are sage.
_______________________________

He is what, now? EIGHTEEN, or maybe, nineteen?
He wears a flat cap of the Northshireman.
He raises a very special sort of sheep, his pets, for their unique fur.
HE wears ONLY a pocket watch.
He preserves old ways and things, yet,
since before age fifteen he has been the creator and manager
of the world's largest toy steam engine fraternity hobby-place.
He likes REAL things.
So he gets this Lampe, free...just as KiM gets the Drain Brain,

eventually, free...our KiM: (he knows to never hold his breath for "the reid", ha ha).

I am merely, only, the passer-on-er... and happy as...near a goner.

---All I need is a good kick in the arse to make me move:
http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/sutra377192.php#377192