Flux Density Map for Turnigy 6364-280

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Hopefully this will help someone spec & locate hall effect sensors. I decided to do this after seeing where bigmoose did something similar for the 80mm motor. I'm not sure I understand what the +10º & +20º plots he made are for. If someone wants something like that please let me know & I can probably do it. These are just the readings along the strongest part of one magnet.

45mm ± 10mm from the mount face looks good. Some of the other magnets (not plotted) had anomalous readings at the edges (maybe from the screws), so 45mm ±5mm would be safer. The radial distance would depend on the sensitivity of the HE sensor. The other version of this motor, 6374-200, is probably the same except 1 cm longer. So the ideal spot for it would be 45mm ± 10 to 15mm. I took readings with the probe flush against the can, & used a stack of post-it's to get the spacing for the other readings.

I haven't added the Hall's yet. I'm not sure exactly how to arrange them. I suspect that there should be two on at any given time & one sensor should trip on the instant another switches off. I plan to check a sensored motor I have on the scope. When I add Halls to the new motor, I'll adjust the angle to get the timing & the radial distance to match whatever pattern the sensored motor has.

I can't wait to get the sensors on the skateboard motor. Right now it cuts out so much on acceleration that I'm worried about getting hit by a car when crossing streets. Hopefully when sensored the acceleration will feel like getting a rug pulled out from under me.

edit: I don't know why the graph doesn't load automatically like the photos do, & it says "not downloaded yet" even though at least one person (me) has downloaded it. If you can't access the file "Flux Map of 6364-280.jpg" listed below, let me know & I'll figure out how to repost it or send it to you.
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As the magnet temperature increases, the remnance flux density decreases (typically decrease 0.11% / C) so if you increase the magnet temperature by 50degrees, you shold expect about 5%less flux dencity in the rotor, which might significantly affect the effectiveness of the outside mounted hall sensors. I'm not saying it will be a problem, but if you start experimenting with this and find that things stop working well, after using the motor for a period of time, that might have something to do with it.

-ryan
 
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