Flying on plane with a e-bike/scooter with Lithium ?

[ScooterMan101]

How were you able to fly on a plane with a e-bike or e-scooter with lithium batteries ?

There are Domestic and International Flights,

Different for Domestic and International flights , here in the U.S. ?

 

[fellow]

I'm interested in this too. According to Quantas http://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/dangerous-goods/global/en#electronic-devices-powered-by-batteries

Devices containing lithium ion batteries over 160Wh are not permitted as passenger baggage and must be sent as freight.

I could not open FAA link, I get some kind of wierd error. That link is here (click on Batteries and Electronics > Portable recreational vehicles powered by lithium ion batteries): https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/

Direct link (doesn't work): https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/more_info/?hazmat=66

 

[ScooterMan101]

Fellow,
Are you planing on traveling to the U.S. ?

There are so many people that own e-bikes here that it is a possibility you could rent a pack from someone here, leave a big enough cash deposit to reassure the owner the pack will come back .
And hopefully they would only charge a small rate for rental.

From the link to Quantas perhaps small packs that would be harnessed together into a larger S and P configuration would be a way to travel with enough watt hours to make the bike usable once you got
to your destination .

I am thinking hard case lithium,
or
make a bunch of 4p or 5 p strings , that would then be put together into the 13s , 14s etc. once you get to your destination.

I think there is a market for a DIY put it together pack for travelers.

 

[fellow]

ScooterMan: Pikes Peak would be fun. That or this in Belgium:
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[ScooterMan101]

Fellow ,

I recommend Pikes Peak over Belgium, However Colorado is a state to visit during the late spring/summer/early fall months . There are some epic bike trails in Colorado , like the one at Monarch Pass. ( Salida Co. a small town not much there but the down hill bike/hike trail from the top of the pass down to just outside the town of Salida, is a must ride trail, if you ever go to Colorado )

Over the last few years I have met people from Europe , here in Warm/Sunny California, and told them how I would love to go over to Belgium and ride all over.
and
Everyone of them had a surprised look on their face , and said something like " why would you want to go to Cold/Overcast/Rainy Belgium ?

I finally gave up and decided that for me the best option would be France, and even then only in the Summer.

 

[fellow]

Belgium because I think I can beat the first contestant in that video*lol*. Pikes Peak for everything else off course.

 

[ScooterMan101]

Belgium and France is easy for you, just a train ride down there , I am thinking taking a e-bike/scooter on a train would be easier. just more time consuming.

For anyone who lives in Scandinavia, this summer will be the start of good air fair prices over to the U.S.

For anyone who rides a bike, this is a great country to visit. You just need to do allot of homework first about where to stay away from , and where to go and where to
stay on a budget at the great outdoor areas. Colorado is a Famous state for Road Bike Riders during the summer , in the Mountains, and some good bike trails,
However
California Beats Colorado in Regards to Weather, and more places to go and things to do. Check out the Flume Trail at Lake Tahoe California . ( summer months only )
Also the Downieville down hill trail , there are shuttle buses / vans that take you up the hill so all you have to do is ride down .
Then there is the Demo Forest , just South West of Santa Cruz , California.
I could go on and on,
I might even volunteer this summer to drive some Europeans/Aussie's around, if they would rent a big van/small rv , cover a few expenses , and would want to see the epic bike areas in the Western U.S. and/or other areas here.

Belgium because I think I can beat the first contestant in that video*lol*. Pikes Peak for everything else off course.

 

[fellow]

We seem to be off topic here. On the other side, ebike friendly travel destinations are a very interesting topic deserving some space. To me, it seems that Califonia is the place to visit the first time?

To anyone visiting Europe during the sommer, I can recommend Croatia. This EU country is just breathtaking for an ebiker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPT1t5jKtw
When visiting Dubrovnik in Croatia, visit Cavtat, Porto Montenegro and Boka Kotorska bay too. It's about 60km (37miles) of ebiking from Dubrovnik to get there. Don't forget swim pants and a passport, water temperature in Montenegro bay is often 30'C(86F) during the july and august. Unfortunatly, the air is hot there too. Rainmaking ritual is just waste of time there.

Another countries that are fun are Italy, Switzerland, Austria and Slovenia. France is great for skiing, especially Val Thorens. Alpe d' Huez is very bike frendly (Tour de' France and everything), but you need to be king of the hill to get there (it's a ski resort). Belgium is as boring as Sweden, flat and rainy*lol*. In those northern EU countries (together with the UK and Germany) it rains all the time, and your vaccation will be ruined.

In most of those rainy EU countries the police will dislike any ebike that is not CE marked. South of Slovenia, the police has less job and they simply do not care what you ride. Here, the crime is non existant and people are much more relaxed (helmet, what's that?).

Maybe we should start an 'Ebike friendly destionations' topic?

 

[ScooterMan101]

Yes , I agree, if one of the moderators can move just the posts from your one with the youtube video, down to this one, that would be good.

Until that can happen, I only plan on traveling within the U.S. this year, then outside the U.S. next.

I do really mean to make myself available as a driver to any visiting Europeans / Scandinavians / Aussie's , Japanese/Koreans that can speak English, who want to fly into California, rent a large van or small RV, and travel around a little or even travel around allot.
Starting Mid next month ( late February )
Also, I have a pass for discounts on camping sites as well . Don't have to stay in Hotels every night . anyone who is interested PM me .

We seem to be off topic here. On the other side, ebike friendly travel destinations are a very interesting topic deserving some space.

Maybe we should start an 'Ebike friendly destionations' topic?

 

[dogman dan]

Start by getting a battery that is legal to ship. A great many are not certified to be shipped at all, and come from china labeled toys, or 48v charger, or something misleading.

With a legit battery, then you can hazmat ship it to near your destination, using some kind of drop point like a fedex or UPS mailbox business, or just an ES buddies house. Lots of pre arranging needed of course. Then the bike or scoot itself can go as baggage.

If there are enough of you flying, then you can carry a bunch of legal to go carry on size batteries. Each person carries one. String them up to 10 ah when you get there.