Galileo/Newton agree-- 9/11 was an inside job!

eTrike said:
There are a lot of psychological reasons but typically older folks are less inclined to question the official story, this is funny bullshit.....but whatever lets you sleep at night......

I welcome you to be brave enough share the information with your friends and neighbors.

http://rethink911.org/rethink911-billboard-to-go-digital-in-nyc/
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I dont think the facts of the 1st post are any more proven than the Warren commission proved Oswald acted alone...
Thats this old guy being sceptical of everything I am shown.
I know there is some fishy crap writen in the history books, but historians need jobs too.
Unfortunatly, history isnt written by historians, its written by pundents with an agenda.

Which brings me to your final invitation: To what end?

So we can hold our leadership to account? (Like all them bankers who made billions while 20% of the population lost their livelyhood) we really showed em that time!

What about that time the insurance lobby got the "good" party guys to pass a law mandating every man women & child buy insurance from a "for profit" company. Lucky for us, the insurance buisness is just a cottage industry with human kinds benifit in their hearts.

I apreciate alternate veiws & good dialog of these sort of threads....I rarely add to the content for my own reasons.

My point? there is a time when the conversation is over....& move on to something productive.
 
I know there is some fishy crap writen in the history books, but historians need jobs too.
Unfortunatly, history isnt written by historians, its written by pundents with an agenda.
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Yes
Which brings me to your final invitation: To what end?
So we can hold our leadership to account?
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Yes, first politically, and then onward if any hidden controlling factors remain- very likely imo.
Obviously without enough people, there is no power. Also to be considered is where it would go and what it would look like, because any large change could be in the intended direction of a 'controlling elite' if one exists, or just plain in a wrong direction. This is where well informed individuals with healthy consciences are necessary, so as not to just be another machine of fear and hate.
I suppose that sounds out-there to some.
I apreciate alternate veiws & good dialog of these sort of threads....I rarely add to the content for my own reasons.
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As long as we are all true to ourselves about why we choose to participate or not.
Introspection is very good.

I just came across this elseware, but have included the best source for the full clip. This kindof thing is just astounding, but perhaps if 'history' can be written, so can a plan for the future.

WWF 1989 'demolition' wins over the 'twin towers'
11:30 -on, but the whole vid was quite interesting
[youtube]bk4_1Vbj4UQ[/youtube]
 
. . . big strong high buildings, larger than any buildings in new york city
these guys are big and bad . . . they may be earthquake proof, typhoon proof, tidal wave proof,
but when the megapower . . . the strongest force in the universe goes against the twin towers,
it's gonna be like a fault line goin right through their foundations,
and the richter scale is gonna spin around 42 times and spin into orbit,
and you're gonna see the twin towers come crumblin down
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I mean seriously what the frock? Who comes up with this shit?
Almost as bad as all that weird shit in the back to the future movies as well.
[youtube]P1ULjJ3EqyY[/youtube]
This one's even better than the one I posted before, although excludes any jfk stuff.
 
Im just being sarcastic, sorry nutspecial.

Just wondering why you post some of this stuff is all, makes it all kind of comical and in all respects disingenuous.

So by my guess, you too are being sarcastic, unless the WWE (WWF) was a serious attempt to prove the towers fell by preplanned means, some what? 20-25 years ago. Hence your Back to the Future and WWE mentions. But I will digress.

Continue on nutspecial, any other youtube evidence can you come up with, I like the eagle eye thats always a classic. WWE good, B2TF as well. Perhaps 3rd Rock from the Sun TV series, or 30 Rock.

My point being, you can find reference to anything, anywhere if you spin it the right way. Lets say only one tower fell, B2TF video would still apply. But 3 towers fell. All these videos, as mentioned, are silly pointing fun and hence sarcastic.

One could point at solid evidence that the sun was in the eastern sky, in front of Saturn but blocking Neptune. 9 being the sun, and 11 being Saturn and Neptune. Just make anything up and see if they interlink and post it ok nutspecial. Lots of nut jobs on youtube like to link stuff.

I'm done, continue on, I will leave you be and I will just watch your silly youtube videos connecting random things to Sept 11.
 
Sorry if you feel pointing out coincidences is somehow disingenuous. Yes obviously people can dissect anything attempting to find meaning. Although there comes a time when failing to 'connect dots' is beyond rationality imo, but it's okay if you're not there. I'm throwing it out there.

I feel the bttf and wwf clips on their own are unbelievably coincidental and do think the insinuation of foreknowledge is certainly possible. That is what conspiracy means.

I am curious of others' opinions and do appreciate your genuine input!

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edit// rereading your post you seem concerned that it somehow detracts, and think people are crazy for producing the content, sharing it, and for me sharing what I consider the most solvent/interesting of the huge amount of info available.
What is so bad with considering some things really do have very evil powerful people behind them?
Is that so different than the official story?
 
nutspecial said:
. . . big strong high buildings, larger than any buildings in new york city
these guys are big and bad . . . they may be earthquake proof, typhoon proof, tidal wave proof,
but when the megapower . . . the strongest force in the universe goes against the twin towers,
it's gonna be like a fault line goin right through their foundations,
and the richter scale is gonna spin around 42 times and spin into orbit,
and you're gonna see the twin towers come crumblin down
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I mean seriously what the frock? Who comes up with this shit?
Almost as bad as all that weird shit in the back to the future movies as well.
[youtube]P1ULjJ3EqyY[/youtube]
This one's even better than the one I posted before, although excludes any jfk stuff.
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This is seriously funny stuff. The same method used to "deduce" all of these predictions/symbolism are the same techniques to "prove" all of Nostradamas's predictions. I am confident the guys with these skills can do it with any piece of literature or sections of any film. Its how con men have manged to flourish throughout time.

Its easy for somone with an agenda to produce these youtube videos....but (call me a paranoid cynic) there is a purpose under all of it. Right wing, left wing who gives a frock......all the emotional back & forth in these threads re-enforces my belief that there is not one conspirocy....but several in competition with each other.

Prolly set in motion back in antiquity.....for the sole purpouse of someones amusment, & that it keeps its momentum feeding off the quirks of human nature.

Its amusing that folks typing in a limited viewing section of an alterative transportation forum think they may be affecting something.
I am convinced thouse who are enamored with making statements & asking questions really believe you are trying to help.....but in doing so you are playing the game...doing the bidding of someone or something that prolly has the same ultimat agenda.....some twisted idea of ruleing the world & everything in it.
What are we going to do today Brain?

There is one inevitable end...for a human, humans, the planit & the univers. My time to enjoy it is but a micrsecond of the big picture.
What did you do for someone else today?
 
Impressive, well thought/written and valuable.

Anyway, by 'funny' i'd only go as far as thinking 'extremely strange' and virtually 'unbelieveable'.
To make a sentence from letters in a post is funny in comparison imo. Really! I liked it.

I don't know what agenda the content creators were after (and don't care), but can say I've seen quite a bit of stuff and found the base info in these two paramount in interest. Hearing hulk and randy say that strange stuff about 'the twin towers' is too much in the light their 'demolition'
remains to me somewhat implausable even with controlled demo much less the official story.

not one conspiracy....but several . . . .
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I just look at things in black and white, right and wrong, good and evil. It is the cleanest lense I know of in which to view life.
Its amusing that folks typing in a limited viewing section of an alterative transportation forum think they may be affecting something.
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That's just plain negative thinking tho! Everything effects everything in some way, and optimistically it would be for the better (at least) in people striving for such.
My time to enjoy it is but a micrsecond of the big picture.
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Maybe, and maybe not- more importantly, could the exclusion of perceiving 'my' as something separate (or even important) improve that view?
 
nutspecial said:
I'm genuinely curious what people genuinely think of all that 'two towers' WWF stuff from 1989
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The common denominator is esotericism, kabbalist mysticism and Marxism, if you have a basic understanding, you get an overall picture.
The mystical puppet masters believe the 'Satan' of this world to be the 'Great Architect' who manifests the material realm, (duality/illusion) named in Masonic literature and worshipped by lower levels, 'The Supreme Being' is unfathomable, unnamable and beyond the material.
There's a so called 'illuminati', which is a global hierarchical order of gnostics, linked with freemasonry, esotericism that runs global high ranking banking and business.
The mark of 'the beast' is on the US dollar bill, in the roman numerals, 666, 1111, along with many other esoteric symbols, 'Hidden in plain sight' and 'What is above, so is below' is a common theme.
The esoteric Kabbalists at the top of the pyramid, must put out into the world hidden symbols, pictures, numerology, etc and then the event can be arranged.
Many movies are full of the symbolism and numerology.

I think they are now showing the system, that's why everything appears to be falling apart as the 'mark of the beast' is due to be collapsed, wanting a Marxist style revolt, leading to anarchy and then the new NWO.

An approximate 2000 year cycle is due to end which fits in with them wanting turmoil as presently we are moving out of the age of Pisces (the Jesus age, fish sign on Christian's car) and into the age of Aquarius.

The area in the Middle East that has been attacked, in modern times, if you refer to old maps is Babalyonia, capital was Babylon, the original so called 'seat of civilisation' Sudam Hussien's old palace looks onto the city.

Does it all make sense?
Look how powerful the religions are, now what happens when there is an order that links them all back to their common origin.
In the masonic calendar we are now at 4016.

I believe Kabbalist mystics are the puppet masters.
 
Wholly frock . . . That's the best I've heard it put anywhere in one place. Didn't wanna bring it up because I wouldn't be nearly that adept at describing. It seems to be one of those deeper subjects that makes it into anything and everything.
I think there is truth that people believe in these things, and indicators everywhere thru history and today. Maybe that's why I didn't mind the bttf and wwf clips as much, and found them extremely interesting.
 
nutspecial said:
It seems to be one of those deeper subjects that makes it into anything and everything.
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It took me quite a while to piece my theory together, I had an inkling because I went through most of the 'New Age' stuff in the 90's, soul searching and over that decade I looked into many religions and their practices, including Gnostics and the Kabbal.
I kind of dropped it all around 2000 as I'd pretty much settled in myself a conflict and decided that I was 'spiritual' and not religious.
When I look over what's happening now it reminds me of the biblical tale of the wise men (Wiesman) coming down from the mountain with the commandments.
The metaphorical beast order (corrupt world) before a new order.

To me it looks like the Kabbalists follow the cycles within cycles, starting with ancient knowledge of cycles of the astrological, through to modern day Marxist cycles of Order-Disorder-Order.

Personally I'll be preparing for the 'end of times' because ive got my kids, I'm getting the feeling the transition into this new age is going to be extreme.
Think what happens when the plug is totally pulled on the antichrist beast system, total global financial meltdown.
Of course this won't affect the one's at the very top, they'll just go to their bunkers prepared.
 
Must fight subliminal urge to start trolling......

The answer lies in files leaked from NASA proving they are covering up Planet X.
 
Gregory said:
The answer lies in files leaked from NASA proving they are covering up Planet X.
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Wow I want some for when there's no gas or electricity available :D
 
megacycle said:
Gregory said:
The answer lies in files leaked from NASA proving they are covering up Planet X.
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Wow I want some for when there's no gas or electricity available :D
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Goddammit you got me with lusting for the material :evil:
 
Nutspecial - Yeah maybe, I forgot how I was feeling that day when I posted that comment.
Thinking back on it now, with you pointing out the coincidences for the sole purpose of showing coincidences might perhaps flop to the side of crazy for some reading this thread, maybe thats all I was trying to mention to you. Now I feel as though perhaps you were trying to fling a little humor into the convo as well. I get it. We all have our quirks, thats great.

Perhaps you were trying to lighten the mood, that perhaps for you, Sept 11 and the falling of the Twin Towers is a dark and somber mood or emtion, all these years later. Many were touched by the tradegy on that day.

The human brain tries to rationalize the unrational, the brain unconsiously(sp) makes things up. I am not lying here, not at all. We see things that arent there.

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I think before you go on any further, I doubt it, maybe you should actually look at how the buildings were constructed, compare those structures to all the other structures that have been demolished by pro's before and note the characteristics. Not only that, know how those buildings were contructed, EXACTLY what materials were used in all cases. And I highly doubt anyone would waste there time or energy on doing that. For one person, not just 100's of hours but 1000's of hours, pouring over video of buildings falling, knowing exactly the materials used, explosives used in every video. And having the engineering degrees and knowledge. I doubt anyone anywhere, as an Arm-Chair 9/11 Detective will do any of that. I highly doubt it!

Confuse the masses and OJ Simpson gets off of his murder chargers.

We got too many "experts" in the room. Not good when they are real experts, highly trained experts.

Now we got online Arm-Chair experts, whats the outcome?
 
Personally I've looked at that stuff and moved on. Nasa is a gov agency, that tells me space and these planets exist in the first place. Don't forget the media.

Mega, good to prepare- plenty of indicators of SHTF. More reason to prepare and live right for whatever time there is.

In response to either nibiru or nwo (they contradict right?):

Could be a really long time or not. . . ALOT saying time is short, but in perspective could also get hit by a bus or brain aneurism 2maro- Whether 5 hours or 50 years, what does any of it matter when it's over? To me all just helped conquer fear and widen perspective, pursue truth and peace

crosspost markz . . . reading, thanks for the reply!
 
And I highly doubt anyone would waste there time or energy on doing that.
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You're right, it's not feasible or even intellectually possible for many- enter all the different docu's referenced in this thread. I think there is enough evidence for reasonable people to confer that buildings don't do that. It would be great to catalogue the best of full docus.
I don't claim this means we can prove the terrorists or aliens or bush did it, and imo not even a complete method of destruction. But it's something.

I posted this 30sec 'teaser' of judy's work 1:05 to 1:35 did you see it?
[youtube]f4IWZQS4irw[/youtube]
I have watched that particular docu, and it's not what her work is about. Plenty to be found authored solely by her tho https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=judy+wood+where+did+the+towers+go and obviously all the other clips and docus mentioned or posted here of which I'm very happy to hear of peoples' favorites also.
 
Just thought I'd add a comment that to me consolidates my thoughts.

Money/power global controllers are using religion/fear, faking biblical 'end of times' reenacting biblical prophecy, ultimate aim of NWO.
There's a shadow global governance of religion/politics and commerce and who's aim is the one world order, personally don't think it's a bad thing in itself, it's just that this management, indicated by their actions, the global mess, are totally incompetent.

Strange times as a parallel occurrence on a philisopical/science level, is the confirmation of quantum theory, that the result of an experiment is linked to the observer of the experiment.
There's a feeling that were now at the cusp of 'unifying theory'.
Looking at the philosophy of unifying field theory, some say this realises, that our conciousness is connected to the universe, microcosm/macrocosm, we are that which we perceive. I am that I am.

Some state that what is being realized is already know and is just deeper levels of our existence, essentially there are no new ideas, just the realization through science.
 
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Everytime i think about this subject 'The Matrix' becomes more relevant.
It's not the spoon that bends
https://youtu.be/dzm8kTIj_0M
 
r3volved, science as an institution can be fallible and certainly susceptible to conspiracy, but I don't think that's his point.

I do think science (def: TO KNOW) is heading towards absolution as well, and agree QM theory does indicate flaws in our traditional science (ie: KNOWledge), and even offers some explanations for anchient questions.

To me, the idea that neither planes nor conventional explosives on their own seem plausible in the towers' destruction, it is interesting to consider QM, and the things that are hidden, yet TO KNOW.

Edit// shit that's an excellent analogy on many levels mega.
 
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